A Draw7 for the set

[CaptainPlanet.dec]

CARD NAME 2B
Sorcery
As an additional cost to play CARD NAME, remove your hand from the game.
Each player draws 7 cards.

I don't know if it's in flavor for black. Removing cards permently does seem in flavor with many of the tutor and graveyard hate cards in black.

[Jacob Orlove]

This is risky for combo decks, but it's still too good to print. In any format without Force, combo decks could basically abuse this like crazy.

[walkingdude]

Its not even that risky, you know what's in your hand. If casting this will ruin your game then you wont cast it. This is like dim returns but it costs less mana, has less of a draw back, and is more easy to cast since it works off a ritual.

[CaptainPlanet.dec]

This is risky for combo decks, but it's still too good to print. In any format without Force, combo decks could basically abuse this like crazy.

The only thing is, in formats without Force of Will, there is also a lack of artifact mana to power out the Draw7 before mana is open for a counterspell. Basically, it's win-more for the aggro match up, gives combo an advantage if you can't go off the turn you play it, and gives control the win if they are holding a counter. I think that's fair. Remember, if I play this when they have a 7 card hand and don't go off, they're going to have a 15 card hand for their next mainphase. Most decks can work with that.

[Jacob Orlove]

Actually, there's enough artifact mana in extended right now to make Mind's Desire decks playable (one made T8 in the recent PT, iirc). Even Standard has Ironworks and Orchard combo.

This isn't just win-more vs aggro because aggro in those formats is generally about as fast as combo--wizards banned cards in extended until that was the case, and affinity ensures that it's true in T2. A card like this is immensely helpful vs aggro. And against control, their counters are limited by mana. On turn 2, they can only counter once. On turn 3, the same, unless they have annul AND mana leak, and you cast an artifact/enchantment. Without Force, this isn't really going to increase the number of counters your opponent can cast *this turn*, which is basically the turn you're going to win (otherwise you wouldn't cast this). Saying this gives other combo decks an advantage if you can't win the turn you play it is ridiculou.

[CaptainPlanet.dec]

I originally thought of making the cost BBB...would that make it balanced?

[dandan]

From the master card list

Kaervek's Scorn
BBB
Sorcery
As an additionnal cost to play Kaervek's Scorn, sacrifice all permanents you control and discard your hand.
Draw 7 cards.
The living don't understand the true meaning of sacrifice. -Kaervek

That may or may not be balanced (look up the thread, it was lively!!) but it is certainly less unbalanced than your version.

[CaptainPlanet.dec]

From the master card list

Kaervek's Scorn
BBB
Sorcery
As an additionnal cost to play Kaervek's Scorn, sacrifice all permanents you control and discard your hand.
Draw 7 cards.
The living don't understand the true meaning of sacrifice. -Kaervek

That may or may not be balanced (look up the thread, it was lively!!) but it is certainly less unbalanced than your version.

That's much more broken. Just float the mana, discard the cards, draw 7, play Will, and win. Mine removes them, so there's no Yawgmoth's Win brokeness.

[dandan]

Trust me, if you have lots of Black mana and a YawgWin then there will be brokeness. My main point was that such a card already exists in the Master List. Black can't have 2 draw 7s for BBB and Kaervek get his first.

Saccing everything is also very cool from a flavour point of view. Black doesn't much care for stuff like RFG, the graveyard is where stuff belongs, if only for a short time.

[Matt]

Draw7s are pretty much inherently broken. IT displays incredible type one bias to think that sets want or need a draw7.

[dandan]

Kaervek cares not for the opinion of mortals.

Besides with Kaervek's Scorn, everything you have becomes inherently broken.

[Guardian]

No. This cannot simply exist. Too powerful and combo will abuse the hell out of this in T1. You can simply cast this via Dark Ritual on turn 1 and go crazy.

Listen, look in the past and each draw 7 thread died. I tried one with a twist and it was not a success because people again argued over power level, because the margin for draw 7 is very thin between very broken and very crappy. And yours is obviously very very broken. Imagine this hand turn one:
Black producing land, Black Lotus, Dark Ritual, Mox, your card and other stuff. You dump your hand and get back in business. And if you're lucky, you'll find let's say Wheel of Fortune and opponent will lose everything. Something like this is indeed very rare, but it can happen. And against some decks, they will go land, mox, go, discard to 7. Not good. For the other formats, I donm't know as I don't play them.

Instead, we could go back to mine and improve it as it seems more