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« on: December 02, 2004, 01:06:52 pm »

this report may not be the most educational one but its definently got and interesting story.

Ok well first off I had the decklist and round by round plays but then I hit submit and the whole thing went away. I was pissed....

ok So Theres this local type 1 tournament I went to. 4 rounds swiss, cut to top 8 and winner gets a box. not too crazy.

So I come in with this weird combo deck. Its not that great but fun as hell.

so here it is:

I'm so Egg-cited or Eggcellent

Mana
4 Islands
1 Volcanic
1 Underground Sea
1 Badlands
1 Polluted Delta
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Minamo, School at waters edge.
5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Diamond
1 Lotus Pedal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana vault
1 Lotus Pedal
1 Sol Ring

combo
2 Power Artifact
1 Grim Monolith
1 Kaerveks Torch
1 Stroke of Genius

Engine
4 Helm Of Awakening
4 Skycloud Egg
4 Darwater Egg
2 Shadowblood Egg
3 Vedalken Archmage <---wtf!?! oh yes.

Draw 7/Tutalage
1 Wheel Of Fortune
1 Time Twister
1 Windfall
1 Memory Jar
1 Time Spiral <---don't laugh. ok you can if u want.
1 Demonic
1 Vampric
1 Mystical
1 Tinker

Misc. br00ken & Utility
4 Force of Will
1 Yawgmoths will
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral
1 Hurkyls Recall

Ok this is sub-par but it is seriously fun to play.
Nothing like the look on someones face when I play an egg they are always like what??? Then I play 3 more and draw a card of each drop 2 more, so on and so forth. but it gets really crazy
when I have vedalken out cause each egg gets me two cards. I get um comin and goin. plus theirs nothing like: mox, draw a card, mox, draw a card, lotus, draw a card. Its great. I mean you love playing
lotus and moxen why not draw a card while youre at it.

anyway.

heres the part where i would list each round match by match but like i said i just did that befiore and it got erased so I really dont feel like retyping all that shit. so heres some highlights:

overview:
Swiss Round 1: B/R Void.
Swiss Round 2: n00b: Precon.
Swiss Round 3: Stax
Swiss Round 4: Stax again
Top 8 Round 1: Stax AGAIN!
Top 8 Round 2: Oath? 4cc? Tog? I dunno.
Top 8 Round 3: Mono blue (cringe)
Top 8 Round 4: STAX AGAIN!!!!!

Swiss Round 1: B/R Void
     Nothing interesting. he did bolt my vedalken first game. other than that I tore thru him.

Swiss Round 2: n00b precon
     1st game: he brought out battle mad ronin. I scooped
     2nd game: I woke up from a horrible nightmare in which I scooped to a noob with a pre constructed deck. I then procceded to win the game and thus the match (did u really think I scooped?)

Swiss Round 3: Stax
     1st game: Mishras Workshop + Trinisphere + first turn = game.
     2nd Game: I win
     3rd game: he brings out trinisphere but i already had grim monolinth out.
               I go draw wheel, use it, get power artifact hook it up to the grim, and go on to win he game. Infinite mana = trinisphere sux.

Swiss Round 4: Stax
     1st game: I destroyed him.
     2nd game: he sides in REB and whacks my vedalkens. I still won.
     3rd game: draw

Top8 Round 1: Stax
     1st game: Trinisphere + tanglewire = "youre head a splode"
     2nd & 3rd game: I win.

Top8 Round 2: Oath? 4cc? Tog?
     I never saw his actual deck.
     1st game: I burn myself to death + mana crypt twice.
     2nd game: Quick start. I drop my whole hand then wheel of fortune.
                I go to play vedalken.
                He force of wills it.
      I force back.
      He forces back.
      I forced back.
      He misdirections it. (doh!)
               Next turn I topdeck a timetwister. game.
     3rd game: 2nd turn he stifles my egg sacrifice. turn over.
               He goes drops chalice for 1 (no more eggs!)
               I go. wheel of fortune. then i time walk and HARD CAST a kaerveks for 20. with tolarian and minamo. He tries to say chalice counters kaerveks because the x dosnt count as far as chalice is concerned they look it up on-line and then inform him he is wrong(as far as the rules of magic are concerned) (u think i need my eggs? I don' need no stinkin eggs.)

Top8 Round 3: Mono Blue
     1st game: I combo out FIRST TURN. (no force of wills.)
     2nd game: 4 turns in all hes done is drop islands I then combo out taking a chance he had no counters because lets face it the longer i wait the more counters he'll have and i figured its better than scooping. I torch him for 7,000,801 he misdirections it back to me. N!ce.
     3rd game: I win.

Top8 Round 4: Stax
     nothing intresting.

So basically thats how I won the box. I was the luckiest son of a bitch ever but its all good.

*Eggz r0xxxxerzz
**Vedalken Archmage is your Daddy.
***and for anyone that thinks they should net deck this: dont. its not worth your time.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2004, 04:04:15 pm »

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Swiss Round 4: Stax
1st game: I destroyed him.
2nd game: he sides in REB and whacks my vedalkens. I still won.
3rd game: draw


WTF-that doesn't make any sense.  So you won games 1 and 2, why is there a game 3?

I also find it funny that a deck with Eggs took down multiple "broken" stax decks.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2004, 04:07:50 pm »

Congrats on playing a mega original deck and totally winning against Stax and other decks. That was pretty cool to see.
eggs?!

Btw, I live in Carmel,  friggin weird!

it seems you could have trouble getting out FOW some of the times, yes-no?
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 05:00:01 pm »

moxlotus: I played so many stax games I musta mixed them up. heh. I drew game three against one of them....

Disburden: You live in carmel??? whats your name? and thanx for the comments. and yes i do have trouble with fow's
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 05:57:25 pm »

nick fanzo

Where are you in mahopac??

I was just playtesting that deck you made and used recently, its pretty fun to play, I like it. Im trying to work on a way right now to make FOW alittle more usable in crazy situations (like when OAth hits.), thus making it more reliable.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 06:00:07 pm »

How did you have 4 top 8 rounds?
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2004, 06:32:20 pm »

I'd guess it was a 5 round event, then the usual T8.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2004, 06:54:33 pm »

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3rd game: 2nd turn he stifles my egg sacrifice. turn over.


The egg has a mana ability which can't be countered, stifle even has reminder text to this effect.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2004, 07:42:39 pm »

Why the Power Artifact combo? It seems like it would just be extraneous. Also, why such a random manabase? It seems that the eggs would take care of random mana needs. Finally, why no Chromatic Sphere? They're just plain better than eggs in my experience.

Anyway, it's nice to see an Easter Tendrils win. Good work!
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2004, 04:26:45 pm »

my bad, it was 5 rounds swiss then cut to top 8.

disburden: my name is jack skirianos, ive never heard of you though. heh. i live like 2 minutes away from the carmel/mahopac border. do you joe fagnoni? or mike bailey? they live in carmel. i dunno.

PipOC: the draw a card ability was countered.

Ifflejink: I chose it because i hate counting spells and this deck isnt an automatic loss to 3sphere and other stax goodies.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2004, 04:58:52 pm »

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PipOC: the draw a card ability was countered.


From Saturday School #67 by Rune Horvik, Saturday, February 28, 2004:   
   

Q: If I have a Damping Matrix in play, is it possible to activate a Chromatic Sphere? I guess you can, as it is a mana ability, but can you still draw the card?

A: You still get to draw the card. Drawing the card is part of the mana ability, and happens at the same time as you get the mana. Since the mana ability can be played, the card can also be drawn.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2004, 06:52:40 pm »

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A: You still get to draw the card. Drawing the card is part of the mana ability, and happens at the same time as you get the mana. Since the mana ability can be played, the card can also be drawn.


Sadly many judges misjudge this rule and it has cost me at least one game.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2004, 08:33:18 pm »

Why are you running ten eggs instead of 6 eggs and 4 Chromatic Spheres?

Congrats on beating Stax, though. Stax is usually combo's worst match-up.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2004, 11:42:02 pm »

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my bad, it was 5 rounds swiss then cut to top 8.

disburden: my name is jack skirianos, ive never heard of you though. heh. i live like 2 minutes away from the carmel/mahopac border. do you joe fagnoni? or mike bailey? they live in carmel. i dunno.
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well, nice to meet you (sort of) , Jack. I stopped playing in '98 after playing since unlimited came out, and then I just started to pick up my cards this february, so I havent been up to date locally as much as I should have been. Where was the tourney you played with eggs? I'd like to know so I can get my feet wet perhaps someday.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2004, 03:18:40 pm »

Nothing you can do with 1st turn Trinispheres...
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2004, 11:53:13 am »

nice to meet you too sorta, nick. heh. anyway the place was in poughkeepsie, its called champions sports cards. check out: http://www.championcard.com/


and to everyone else, that sux. i never knew that. thats why i love message boards. now im gonna go slap that kid in the face.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2004, 12:38:17 pm »

This deck reminds me of Revenge sort of and that makes me happy.  You should try to fit in 4 Helm of Awakening and it would be kind of cool to just infinitely chain off with Eggs.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2004, 09:39:25 am »

This is a Copy of my current egg deck. It came about when i saw how well future sight worked with the eggs and HOA. Top+HOA+Future Sight= winz.

Egg/Combo  29
4x Chromatic Sphere
4x Mossfire Egg
4x Darkwater Egg
4x Skycloud Egg
4x Shadowblood Egg
4x Sensei's Dvining Top
4x Helm of Awakening
1x Crop Rotation

Protection 5
3x Force of Will
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Cunning Wish

Draw 10
3x Future Sight
1x Ancestrall Recall
1x Yawg Will
1x Time Walk
1x Timetwister
1x Frantic Search
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor


Winz 2
1x Tendrils of Agony
1x Brain Freeze
 
Mana Sources 16
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Black Lotus
1x Lotus Petal
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Vault
1x Mana Crypt
7x Island
1x Tolarian Academy

SideBoard 15
1x Cunning Wish
1x Force of Will
1x High Tide
1x Fact or Fiction
1x Hurkyl's Recall
1x Echoing Truth
1x Abeyance
1x AK
1x Lim-dul's Vault
1x Counterspell
1x STP
1x BEB
1x Stifle
1x Brainstorm
1x Diabolic Edict

It seems somewhat similar to your deck except that yours tries to be more broken and go off faster then trying to be more consistant, IMO.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2004, 10:10:10 am »

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This deck reminds me of Revenge sort of and that makes me happy.  You should try to fit in 4 Helm of Awakening and it would be kind of cool to just infinitely chain off with Eggs.


well, there already is 4 helm of awakenings so i guess im one step ahead of you.  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2004, 10:14:04 am »

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This is a Copy of my current egg deck. It came about when i saw how well future sight worked with the eggs and HOA. Top+HOA+Future Sight= winz..


well i wouldn't say my deck is a copy of yours considering I've had versions of it since before future sight even came out...
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2004, 10:49:35 am »

I wasnt saying that your deck was a copy of mine, I was saying that this is a copy of my current deck, i.e. This is what my deck currently looks like. I do a little comparison at the bottom of the post as to how our decks are different. Didnt mean to offend you. I don't know about you but I love the look of my opponent when I drop eggs on first turn.

I will probably end up testing Vedalken Archmage, but it seems so weak to any creature hate, that and it helps to trigger their oath.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2004, 11:59:23 am »

I think stifle and damping matrix are a bit different :

you can't stifle mana abilities but you can stifle the draw abilities because it goes on the stack.

So, with damping matrix you can draw the card of an egg, but with stifle you can't.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2004, 04:01:43 pm »

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I wasnt saying that your deck was a copy of mine, I was saying that this is a copy of my current deck, i.e. This is what my deck currently looks like. I do a little comparison at the bottom of the post as to how our decks are different. Didnt mean to offend you. I don't know about you but I love the look of my opponent when I drop eggs on first turn.

I will probably end up testing Vedalken Archmage, but it seems so weak to any creature hate, that and it helps to trigger their oath.


nonono bro its totally cool, im always on the defensive with these skill intensive message board because people are always way too quick to flame an unsuspecting n00b. you know what i mean. sorry i acted like a dick man, no hard feelings.

i really have no idea how stifle works of eggs, i mean i've only encountered it once in my life so i dunno. doesnt make much difference to me. cest la vie
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