World of Warcraft

[Triple_S]

I have my Lawbringer Helm and Belt now, the Hide of the Wild, and an Aurastone hammer with a hot +55 healing enchantment thianks to Sliverking's brother...unfortunately I have a good couple of weeks to wait for my next epic drop...but hopefully we'll have Ragnaros down by then.

[TracerBullet]

Well, my WoW life just took a big hit-



Frostwolf, after being the shittiest server available for nearing four months now, has opened transfers to Frostmane.  While this is alievating much of the stress on the server, it also dropped the population by a BUNCH, and split up many good friends.  With about 2/3 of the major Alliance guilds leaving, it's really made the game much less enjoyable as many of the friends and enemies I'd made over the last 8 months have gone away.  It's amazing how much less fun it is to be on a server with so many fewer people, and how much fun our server had in its highly disfunctional days.


Outside of that, I'm still loving the Rogue and everything that goes along with.  I'm next in line in our guild for Perdition's, and we're already starting to make progress in BWL.


Edit- It looks like you guys have just had your server transfers opened.... Good luck in the brave new world that will be!

[SliverKing]

Our server has a server-side lag problem right now(2 to 3 minutes to loot, longer to check mail)... which makes me absolutely cringe at the thought of MORE people fleeing from a high-pop server.   My brother and I rerolled on Draenor specificially to get away from high-pop, high-lag servers and now Blizz is pulling the rug out from under us.
GL with perditions blade.  What FR baselines are you guys using for Ragnaros?

[jpmeyer]

LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKINS.

That's all I know about WoW.

[TracerBullet]

ZOMG I'm tired of hearing Leroy Jenkins jokes.  Seriously, every time you went through any sort of instance for months after that half the people in the run were making the exact same jokes.

[SliverKing]

A half-sized bus was seen recently running through the Molten Core.  It ran over Ragnaros, the Firelord.  Before speeding off, a little blue fucker jumped out and took his stuff. More as it develops.

[Jebus]

Ragnaros pissess me off.

He only drops Hunter loot it seems.

Oh well.  Off to try and kill Razorgore.

[TracerBullet]

We're currently stuck at Ebonroc, with Firemaw anywhere but farmstatus.


If you guys need help with any sort of BWL strats, lemme know, I'll help you where I can.

[Kowal]

My main is finally up to 60.  Hit it like a month ago.  Picked up all the blues I could ever want, but only one purple so far.  My DKP is stupid low and some guild policies I don't agree with keep me out of Molten Core from time to time, but I'll be catching up soon if all goes well.

Couple alts now.  Tauren Shammy (Yvessa) on Earthen Ring, and Human Warlock on Draenor (Jannelle).  Both of them are still massive lowbies, but their only purpose is to pillage low level battlegrounds when I'm bored.

[Triple_S]

I"m 3 pieces off from full Lawbringer now (but I have Judgement Pants so its ok  ) with 9 epics altogether...I am planning on picking up Onyxia's head when I get a chance for the caster ring she gives...but I"m dead last in Pally dkp so I have a good 3 weeks before I think of getting another drop unless I have some amazing luck again.

[Bastian]

Actually I believe there's a legendary (orange) weapon that you can make out of an item that Ragnaros drops. So far there are only two known legendary items: a two-handed mace and a two-handed sword. The sword has to be tempered in the fire of the evil bitch Onixya and then cooled down on her blood. No, I'm not kidding.

The 2-handed mace is made out of a sulfurous hammer enchanted with the Eye of Ragnaros. Both should be hard as hell to get because you know that either boss is really not very easy to kill ^^

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Oh, and I'm Maximo, lvl34 paladin on Stormrage, which would quite likely be at lvl54 by now if Blizzard hadn't fucked up my account before...

[Kowal]

Quel'Serrar (the onyxia sword) is purple, not orange.

There are a bunch of orange items, but yeah, only two orange weapons.

The orange sword is actually a one hander.  It's called Thundraan, Fury of the Windseeker or something like that.  You have to get both orange items called Bindings of the Windseeker from two of the Molten Core bosses and complete a quest chain to summon Thundraan, who's just a big air elemental that looks like a white Ragnaros.  Then you slap him around and collect the sword.

[SliverKing]

We are only 3 ingots (4 if we have to buy the recipe) from crafting the other legendary item. Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros.
The eye dropped for us this week.  We already had 5 ingots, and have since scraped together all the other mats, so as soon as another guild steps up and helps us out with the last 3 ingots we're going to have the first legendary weapon on our server. 

Razorgore continues to absolutely ruin us. We're trying lots of different strats and getting poor results with all of them. Hopefully our controllers will get more expereince and that will help also. We've gotten pretty good about killing all the mages, but the dragonkin and legionaires just get out of control. No earthbind and few piercing howl warriors make kiting a real challenge.

[Jebus]

I'm working on my Thunderfury sword now.  I've had both Bindings for a while, but we haven't progressed deep enough into BWL to get the Smelt Elementium recepie or farm Elementium Ore.

Soon though.

We've got all the Ingots we need to craft a Sulfuras.  Unfortuantley, Ragnaros has been stingy in dropping the Eye of Sulfuras.  One day soon I hope.

BWL is tough.  You may consider asking more of your warriors to grab Piercing howl.  I went ahead and did it myself and I love it.  Nothing more fun than running around the room with 40 of the Legionaires chasing me at a slow pace.  I find that Earthbind is helpful for Horde, but not critical.  It's really the Dragonkin that seem to be the biggest problem.  That's where your Hunters, Druids, and Warlocks need to step up and keep them under control.  Once you get through, it's quite a fun encounter (as are all the encounters so far). 

Vaelestrasz was our major cockblock.  I imagine you guys might have a slightly easier time with him due to BoS.  That fight is all about aggro control.

[SliverKing]

We've been in MC for I guess 4 or 5 months now, and we've never seen either have of thunderfury... so I suppose its all a little luck based.   Having the Eye but not the ingots though is really tormenting our poor DPS warrior.

Razorgore is still giving us a fit.  We're handing things better, but still coming up a bit short on crowd control before we get the eggs down.  Do you guys use Razorgore at all? random volleys to distract dudes or sleep random dragonkin?

We only have one Curse of Exhaustion lock, and only 2 piercing howl warriors in the guild, so the kiting thing is going very rough, but we are getting better at it. I figure 2 more weeks and we'll be cursing vaelastraz instead of razorgore. Meantime I guess we'll just hav eto settle for venting our frustrations on that silly little firegod.

[TracerBullet]

Vael's actually not that tough once you get one trick down.  After you figure out WHEN to Shield Wall, the whole fight goes MUCH easier.  We've actually got him to the point where we get him first-try no consumables no UBRS buff.


We're literally 1 Elementium Ore short of getting Thunderfury- We've already learned to smelt it, and have all the extraneous shit.  We actually have a Rogue who's next in line for the sword, has one half of the bindings, and all the non-elementium mats.  Our MT is shitting his pants begging for our current lock to be up, as we've already killed all the gobbos in this one.


We're still having a few issues with Flamegor (and occasionally Ebonroc will get us), but we're just getting started with Chromaggus.  Chromaggus=t3h bitch.


Yeah, Vael was a huge setback for us, as we had several weeks in a row where we had 1% wipes.

Firemaw will take you guys a while, but the key to him is asstardely high Fire Resists.  Like, you're looking to have minimum 350 on your tanks, minimum 250 on your Rogues.  Once the tanks hit 340 or so, they can usually resist through a whole round of the Flame Buffet, which means it's not stacking up to the point where they're just gonna get owned by an extra 5k damage spell every two seconds.  Outside of that, the only thing to worry about is positioning, to make sure he doesn't shadowflame your whole party, and then you're fine.

Jebus, how far have you and your guild gotten?

[Jebus]

We don't use Razorgore too much to control the zerg.  We had a problem with sleeping dragonkin in that the controller kept sleeping Dragonkin that were already being controlled somehow.

It's really all about keeping the Dragons under control as the Legos are relatively easier to kite (even without piercing howl) Just have your Warlocks each pick a Dragon and chain fear it.  Have your druids sleep in the same manner.

Be sure everyone else kiting is using the terrain to their advantage.  If you jump off one of the platforms on each end after they follow up you, they have to run back down.

We made our first attempt at Broodlord Lashslayer on Sunday.  We got him to 33%.  We believe we'll take him down on the next shot.

I got both Bindings of the Windseeker on the same run.  Quite lucky if you ask me.  One of our other warriors has the half from Garr, but is witing on Geddon to drop the other.

I just needs some Elementium Ore!

[SliverKing]

I agree with Jebus, Ragnaros loves hunters. We're going to have to start disenchanting crowns of destruction soon. Thankfully we have plenty of rogues for the cloak of shrouded mists or we'd be disenchanting those too.

[TracerBullet]

We've only gotten 1 Cloak, 3 BF pants, and 1 Perdition's Blade in the entire 6 month timespan we've been downing Rag...


We've also only gotten 2 CHTs and 2 Gutgore Rippers.

And, in the 6 times we've now downed Vael, no Draketooth.


We get a shit ton of Arcanist/Netherwind, and our Warlock who joined the guild three weeks ago already has 5/8 Nemesis.

[Jebus]

So yeah, the guy we built the Sulfuron hammer to get the Sulfuras quit our guild.  GG us.

[SliverKing]

that really sucks about sulfuron...

The first time we spawned ragnaros we had several nasty officer meetings about how to handle sulfuras... and we decided that if the eye ever fell we'd totally ignore current DKP and assign based on lifetime DKP. So that our most reliable loyal people had first dibs.

We've noticed the same problem with loot distribution...  some items simply do not come up for us at all.  We've had 1 gutgore and like 6 aurastone. 12 ancient leaf, 3 eye of divinity.  10 Eskahander's collars, 1 sapphiron drape. etc etc.

We've even tried starting our raids with different people... on the off chance that rumor is true.

[TracerBullet]

We just crafted the Windfury for our MT last night- We had ~200 or so people to kill him, both alliance and horde.  Goodtimes.



Edit- On a Sulfuras note, we've never gotten the eye to drop.  We have ingots, we have everything we'd need, just never gotten the eye to drop.  We had one of the original corp Rogues leave with both Bindings for another server where he promptly got the sword.

[SliverKing]

Razorgore down...  Because we couldnt kite as well as we liked, we just extended the 'kill them all' phase longer to buy the time. Once we were able to get to the eggs down with 2 warriors up, razorgore himself is a joke.
Grats on your Thunderfury...  The mats on it seem like such a pain, we've been arguing if its even worth making... let me know how it works out for you.

[TracerBullet]

It's afuckingmazing.  It nerfs the bosses so hardcore I'd do it even if it cost 10,000 arcanite.


The elementium ore will take care of itself.  We had 6 before we learned to smelt it, and you can easily farm all the stuff you need in 1-2 nights by wiping mid-pull to the goblins.  Once you have the Bindings and the Elementium, everything else should be rather easy to acquire, as a hardcore guild should have sufficient financial power to come up with 100 arcanite.  2k gold isn't that much.

[TracerBullet]

We're spawning Nefarius now, still haven't gotten our tanking systems down for the first part.  Hope to have him down by next week.

[Kowal]

That's nuts.  We're still banging our heads against Vaelastrasz.

I think we have the strategy down.  Our first two tanks have the transition down very well, but the next couple tanks are either doing things sloppy, or we're losing too many people in between transitions.  I don't think it's the latter since that fire nova is pathetic.  Generally what happens is on the second transition, tank 3 isn't intercepted as well as we'd planned, and Vael opens up with fire breath on the casters, and suddenly we're missing half a raid and our tank has no healers.

[TracerBullet]

Well, I guess that's the advantage of being Alliance, as BoS helps that immensely.  FR may be key for you guys, because it'll allow the healers to lower the amount of aggro they're getting with heals.  FR pots would also help that, though they're expensive to keep goingthrough for an entire raid.



Once you start getting the transitions down, the key is to use Shield Wall while the tanks have BA.  That'll allow them to stay up for an extra 8-10 seconds each, which is a lifetime against Vael.

[Jebus]

So yeah...Hakkar is broken or something since the new patch.

Every time he does siphon blood, the rest of the raid is forced to run towards him.

Then they get next to me (the tank), and get corrupted blood and usually one of them gets mind controlled.

[SliverKing]

Man thats even worse than the bug he used to have, wher epeople would get knocked 50 feet backward when he siphoned life (and off the platform).  Anyone else think its silly that ZG loot is better than MC loot?

I'm pretty confident we'll have Vael under control soon... Blessing of Salvation is definetly easy mode for the fight... just working on the tank chain timing and the rest is cake.  Interesting that you used Shield Wall while BA'd.

Good luck with Nefarian - may you be complaining about his skewed loot soon.

[TracerBullet]

Well, I still have Rag...



Unfortunately, he still doesn't have a Perdition's for me, and Vael hasn't had his Dragonfang Blade.


Sometimes I really hate our loot tables.


But yeah, the Shield Wall trick gave us that final 8% no problem.  We had 30 seconds left on the buff the first time we killed him.


UBRS buff is key (especially now that there's no timer).


I'm guessing the Siphon Blood is an attempt to get rid of the back-to-the-wall-down-the-ledge 'sploit?


Oh, and they didn't wipe my rep despite 'sploiting to get Exalted with Zalandar.  GG blizz.