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« on: January 21, 2005, 03:06:48 pm »

Life...it is all about compramise.

There was just a raging debate as to posting decklists.

I though we could all compramise.

I put off correcting the rest of the exams to later in the weekend.

Here are 15 of the top 16 Waterbury TMD OPEN 5 Decklists.

Please, please, please, only discuss the decks.  I DO NOT want this to be a thread about why or why not the 16th deck deserves to be published.

Again, life is about compramise...here are 15 for now...I will publish the 16th in a few days.

Also...expect a huge TO Report, Waterbury Bingo Results, ETC very soon.

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Jeffrey Tussi
1st Place
Playing Control Slaver

1 Platinum Angel
1 Pentavus
4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
2 Cunning Wish
2 Intuition
1 Lava Dart
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mindslaver
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
5 Island

Sideboard :
1 Lava Dart
3 Red Elemental Blast
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Duplicant
1 Platinum Angel
3 Rack and Ruin
2 Blood Moon
3 Arcane Lab

John Blake
2nd Place
Playing Control Slaver

1 Triskelion
1 Platinum Angel
1 Mindslaver
1 Crucible of Worlds
4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Intuition
2 Deep Analysis
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
5 Moxen
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
4 Volcanic Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Stripmine

Sideboard:
1 Lava Dart
1 Firestorm
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Arcane Laboratory
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Spawning Pit

Justin Bransfield
3rd Place
Playing  TPS

3 Island
2 Swamp
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Frantic Search
2 Rebuild
1 Tinker
1 Cunning Wish
1 Gifts Ungiven
4 Force of Will
1 Time Spiral
1 Mind's Desire
4 Dark Ritual
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Necropotence
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard:
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Hydroblast
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Stifle
1 Hurkyll's Recall
1 Brain Freeze
1 Echoing Truth
2 Energy Flux
1 Rushing River
1 Misdirection
2 Engineered Plague
2 Skeletal Scrying

Justin Walters
4th Place
Playing Meandeck TPS
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Spoils of the Vault
4 Night's Whisper
4 Sleight of Hand
4 Brainstorm
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Darkwater Egg
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Land Grant
1 Necropotence
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Lotus Petal
1 Chrome Mox
1 Bayou
1 Tropical Island
1 Windsweapt Heath

Sideboard:
1 Chain of Vapor
4 Duress
4 Force of Will
1 Bayou
1 Doomsday
1 Elvish Spirit Guide
3 Hurkyls Recall

Justin Timoney
5th – 6th Place Split
Playing Control Slaver

4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
2 Blood Moon
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
2 Mindslaver
1 Pentavus
1 Cunning Wish
1 Platinum Angel
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Darksteel Citadel
4 Island
1 Library of Alexandria

Sideboard:
2 Red Elemental Blasts
3 Lava Darts
2 Coffin Purges (completely money)
2 Spheres of Resistance
2 Claws of Gix
1 Echoing Truth
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Shatter Pulse

Eric Dupuis
5th – 6th Place Split
Playing Control Slaver

4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Strip Mine
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Duress
3 Island
1 Jester's Cap
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Pentavus
2 Mindslaver
1 Tinker
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Ancient Tomb
4 Polluted Delta
4 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Goblin Welder

Sideboard:
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Lava Dart
3 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Flametongue Kavu
2 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Blood Moon

Brian Phelon
7th Place
Playing Rector Trix

4 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
3 Underground Sea
2 Scrubland
1 Tundra
1 Tolarian Academy
7 SoLoMoxen
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
4 Dark Ritual
1 Lotus Petal
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Force of Will
1 Rushing River
3 Illusions of Grandeur
2 Donate
4 Academy Rector
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Necropotence
1 Future Sight
1 Timetwister
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Brainstorm
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall

Sideboard:
2 Serenity
1 Abeyance
3 Damping Matrix
3 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Darksteel Colossus
2 Seal of Cleansing
1 Balance
1 Form of the Dragon
1 Tinker

Travis LaPlante
8th Place
Playing  Workshop Combo

4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Metal Worker
4 Staff of Domination
4 Juggernaut
4 Duress
1 Memnarch
3 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Snow Covered Swamp
3 Underground Sea
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Diamond
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampric Tutor
1 Eon Hub
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Triskelion
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Razormane Masticore
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Time Spiral
1 Time Twister
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard:
1 Platinum Angel
2 Null Rod
2 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Boseju, Who Shelters most to a few
1 Echoing Truth
2 Unmask
2 Stifle
3 Chain of Vapor
1 Tormod’s Crypt

Nate Baker
Top 16
Playing 5/3

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone mine
3 Ancient tomb
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
8 SoLoMoxenCrypt
4 Juggernaut
1 Razormane
1 Dupe
1 Platinum
1 Titian
4 TFK
4 Welder
1 Ancestral
1 Walk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Trinisphere
4 Crucible of Worlds
4 Swords to Plowshares

Sideboard:
4 REB
4 COTV
1 Possessed Portal
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Seal of Cleansing

Nick Coss
Top 16
Playing 5/3

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Wasteland
4 Flooded Stand
1 Strip Mine
1 Shivan Reef
4 Volcanic Island
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Island
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
4 Juggernaut
1 Razormane
1 Duplicant
1 Sundering Titian
1 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Gorilla Shaman
4 TFK
4 Welder
1 Ancestral
1 Walk
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Trinisphere
3 Crucible of Worlds
2 Fire/Ice
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard:
1 Fire/Ice
1 Echoing Truth
1 Tormod’s Crypt
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Pyrostatic Pillar
3 Rack and Ruin
2 Blue Elemental Blast

Corey Fraser
Top 16
Playing Control Slaver

1 Pentavus
4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Duress
2 Mindslaver
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Deep Analysis
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Strip Mine
4 Volcanic Island
3 Island

Sideboard:
3 Lava Dart
3 Flametongue Kavu
2 Duress
1 Echoing Truth
2 Blue Elemental Blast
3 Rack and Ruin
1 Coffin Purge

Wade Haras
Top 16
Playing Growatog

4 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
3 Island
3 Tropical Island
4 Underground Sea
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Duress
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Gush
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
3 Cunning Wish
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Regrowth
1 Swamp
4 Quirion Dryad
2 Psychatog

Sideboard:
1 Berserk
1 Pernicious Deed
2 Naturalize
1 Diabolic Edict
3 Energy Flux
1 Smother
1 Fact or Fiction
3 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Misdirection
1 Hurkyl’s Recall

Matt McNally
Top 16
Playing Control Slaver

4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
5 Island
2 Darksteel Citadel
5 Moxen
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
4 Goblin Welder
1 Pentavus
1 Platinum Angel
1 Triskelion
2 Mindslaver
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Brainstorm
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Intuition
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Tinker

Sideboard:
2 Lava Dart
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Arcane Laboratory
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Waterfront Bouncer

Mike Panas
Top 16
Playing 4CC

4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
3 Cunning Wish
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Balance
4 Flooded Strand
2 City of Brass
2 Volcanic Island
2 Island
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
2 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Decree of Justice
1 Exalted Angel
2 Swords to Plowshares
3 Skeletal Scrying
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Plains

Sideboard:
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Exalted Angel
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Ray of Revelation
1 Vampric Tutor
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Tormod’s Crypt
1 Fire/ Ice
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Coffin Purge

Rich Shay
Top 16
Playing Control Slaver

1 Triskelion
1 Platinum Angel
1 Pentavus
4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Duress
2 Mindslaver
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Darksteel Citadel
3 Underground Sea
4 Polluted Delta
4 Volcanic Island
4 Island

Sideboard:

3 Lava Dart
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Duress
2 Echoing Truth
4 Sphere of Resistance
3 Rack and Ruin

Ben Taraskevich(a.k.a. Waterbury Top 8 Kid)
Top 16
Playing Control Slaver

1 Platinum Angel
1 Pentavus
4 Goblin Welder
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Intuition
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Mindslaver
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
4 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
5 Island
1 Strip Mine
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Underground Sea
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Yawgmoth’s Will

Sideboard:
2 Lava Dart
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Aether Spellbomb
2 Engineered Explosives
3 Rack and Ruin
3 Arcane Lab
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2005, 03:11:06 pm »

You rule Ray.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 04:41:54 pm »

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I second.

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I put off correcting the rest of the exams to later in the weekend.

I'd just like to add that no one expected you to do that, and that everyone would have understood if you had put your real life first and this second (cause students are more important).  It speaks very highly of your dedication to being one of the finest TO's in all of Magic.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 05:12:07 pm »

Ray, you ran an AMAZING tournament. I am really looking forward to your TO report!
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 05:43:31 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 06:56:49 pm »

There's three things to being a successful TMD personality...

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Let the sucking begin!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 09:10:11 am »

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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2005, 12:33:18 pm »

Samite Healer, obv...

Ray, any idea when we can get to top 32 names so we can mark off our bingo charts?
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2005, 02:09:53 pm »

Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16?
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2005, 02:15:33 pm »

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Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16?



Are you really asking that somebody else count for you?  Are you really that lazy???
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2005, 03:37:16 pm »

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Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16?



Are you really asking that somebody else count for you?  Are you really that lazy???


Of course not, that was as a matter of speaking. Rolling Eyes
To clarify, I was just amazed how many Control Slaver decks there were in the top 16. Seems like Control Slaver really dominated the tournament
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2005, 11:09:08 pm »

who else wants to puke at the control slaver count?
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2005, 11:15:19 pm »

Any way I could get an exact number of players from anyone who knows? I'm trying to write the Dec-Jan article immediately as the SCG T8 goes up.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2005, 11:25:01 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2005, 11:42:33 pm »

Correction...the exact attendance was 200.  Rich Shay and one other gentleman were accidentally entered twice.

Edit: As promised, the withheld decklist has now been published.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2005, 03:51:18 am »

Wow

the first workshops come in 8th

So everybody who wants to restrict Workshop: please die
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2005, 01:19:23 pm »

It should be noted that it was the first workshops out of like 2 workshop decks in the tournament.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2005, 04:00:18 pm »

plz restrict mana drain & illusionary mask omg!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 09:44:52 am »

why illusionary mask?  I mean the 40 some odd drains in top 16 migh give you an argument some how...I don't buy it but still, there's something there.  The 0ish illusionary masks even played in the tournament make this an odd choice.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2005, 02:48:15 pm »

God,

Knowing even a little bit about Statistics makes me cringe everytime I hear someone say, look at the number of card x's in the top 8 of tournament y.

Just because a card shows a high appearance percentage, does not mean it is broken.

Consider a format where you must make a 60 card deck out of the following cards, and you may ignore the 4 per deck rule:

Forest
Island
Plains
Swamp
Mountain
Hurloon Minotaur
Grey Ogre

Is Hurloon Monotaur broken because every deck will be some number of mountains and all the rest some number of Minotaurs?  Is Mountain Broken simply because it will make up 100% of land used in all decks?

There will always be better cards, and as such, those cards will show up more regularly.  What really should be the determinant for if a card should be restricted or banned is how the card impacts the ability for the game to be played out.  Cards are typically banned because they enable games to be too one sided, typically in combo decks which typically don't allow a player much time to do anything short of Force of Will.

Type 1 is about good cards and Mana Drain is one such good card but is hardly broken.
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2005, 05:40:41 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2005, 09:54:43 am »

dude, read my post.  specifically the part that says:
 
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wasn't actually advocating anything, I'm just saying if you were gonna pick something based on the results of the tournament...Illusionary mask?
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2005, 03:05:19 pm »

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