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Life...it is all about compramise.
There was just a raging debate as to posting decklists.
I though we could all compramise.
I put off correcting the rest of the exams to later in the weekend.
Here are 15 of the top 16 Waterbury TMD OPEN 5 Decklists.
Please, please, please, only discuss the decks. I DO NOT want this to be a thread about why or why not the 16th deck deserves to be published.
Again, life is about compramise...here are 15 for now...I will publish the 16th in a few days.
Also...expect a huge TO Report, Waterbury Bingo Results, ETC very soon.
Thanks, Ray
Jeffrey Tussi 1st Place Playing Control Slaver
1 Platinum Angel 1 Pentavus 4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 4 Accumulated Knowledge 2 Cunning Wish 2 Intuition 1 Lava Dart 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Mindslaver 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 1 Lotus Petal 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 4 Flooded Strand 4 Volcanic Island 5 Island
Sideboard : 1 Lava Dart 3 Red Elemental Blast 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Duplicant 1 Platinum Angel 3 Rack and Ruin 2 Blood Moon 3 Arcane Lab
John Blake 2nd Place Playing Control Slaver
1 Triskelion 1 Platinum Angel 1 Mindslaver 1 Crucible of Worlds 4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Brainstorm 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Accumulated Knowledge 3 Intuition 2 Deep Analysis 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Tinker 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 5 Moxen 4 Flooded Strand 4 Island 4 Volcanic Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Darksteel Citadel 1 Stripmine
Sideboard: 1 Lava Dart 1 Firestorm 2 Engineered Explosives 2 Arcane Laboratory 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Red Elemental Blast 3 Spawning Pit
Justin Bransfield 3rd Place Playing TPS
3 Island 2 Swamp 2 Underground Sea 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Flooded Strand 4 Polluted Delta 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mana Crypt 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mana Vault 1 Sol Ring 1 Ancestral Recall 4 Brainstorm 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Time Walk 1 Timetwister 1 Frantic Search 2 Rebuild 1 Tinker 1 Cunning Wish 1 Gifts Ungiven 4 Force of Will 1 Time Spiral 1 Mind's Desire 4 Dark Ritual 1 Vampiric Tutor 4 Duress 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Necropotence 2 Tendrils of Agony 1 Yawgmoth's Bargain 1 Memory Jar
Sideboard: 1 Darksteel Colossus 1 Hydroblast 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Stifle 1 Hurkyll's Recall 1 Brain Freeze 1 Echoing Truth 2 Energy Flux 1 Rushing River 1 Misdirection 2 Engineered Plague 2 Skeletal Scrying
Justin Walters 4th Place Playing Meandeck TPS 4 Tendrils of Agony 4 Spoils of the Vault 4 Night's Whisper 4 Sleight of Hand 4 Brainstorm 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Darkwater Egg 4 Dark Ritual 4 Cabal Ritual 4 Land Grant 1 Necropotence 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Demonic Consultation 1 Lion's Eye Diamond 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 1 Lotus Petal 1 Chrome Mox 1 Bayou 1 Tropical Island 1 Windsweapt Heath
Sideboard: 1 Chain of Vapor 4 Duress 4 Force of Will 1 Bayou 1 Doomsday 1 Elvish Spirit Guide 3 Hurkyls Recall
Justin Timoney 5th – 6th Place Split Playing Control Slaver
4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Brainstorm 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Fact or Fiction 2 Blood Moon 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 2 Mindslaver 1 Pentavus 1 Cunning Wish 1 Platinum Angel 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 4 Polluted Delta 1 Flooded Strand 4 Volcanic Island 2 Underground Sea 2 Darksteel Citadel 4 Island 1 Library of Alexandria
Sideboard: 2 Red Elemental Blasts 3 Lava Darts 2 Coffin Purges (completely money) 2 Spheres of Resistance 2 Claws of Gix 1 Echoing Truth 2 Rack and Ruin 1 Shatter Pulse
Eric Dupuis 5th – 6th Place Split Playing Control Slaver
4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Strip Mine 1 Library of Alexandria 3 Duress 3 Island 1 Jester's Cap 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Echoing Truth 1 Pentavus 2 Mindslaver 1 Tinker 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Ancient Tomb 4 Polluted Delta 4 Volcanic Island 3 Underground Sea 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Brainstorm 4 Goblin Welder
Sideboard: 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Lava Dart 3 Blue Elemental Blast 3 Flametongue Kavu 2 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Blood Moon
Brian Phelon 7th Place Playing Rector Trix
4 Polluted Delta 3 Flooded Strand 3 Underground Sea 2 Scrubland 1 Tundra 1 Tolarian Academy 7 SoLoMoxen 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 4 Dark Ritual 1 Lotus Petal 4 Cabal Therapy 4 Force of Will 1 Rushing River 3 Illusions of Grandeur 2 Donate 4 Academy Rector 1 Yawgmoth's Bargain 1 Necropotence 1 Future Sight 1 Timetwister 1 Yawgmoth's Will 4 Brainstorm 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall
Sideboard: 2 Serenity 1 Abeyance 3 Damping Matrix 3 Hurkyl’s Recall 1 Darksteel Colossus 2 Seal of Cleansing 1 Balance 1 Form of the Dragon 1 Tinker
Travis LaPlante 8th Place Playing Workshop Combo
4 Mishra’s Workshop 4 Brainstorm 4 Force of Will 4 Metal Worker 4 Staff of Domination 4 Juggernaut 4 Duress 1 Memnarch 3 Polluted Delta 2 Island 1 Snow Covered Swamp 3 Underground Sea 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Diamond 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampric Tutor 1 Eon Hub 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Triskelion 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Razormane Masticore 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Time Spiral 1 Time Twister 1 Memory Jar
Sideboard: 1 Platinum Angel 2 Null Rod 2 Hurkyl’s Recall 1 Boseju, Who Shelters most to a few 1 Echoing Truth 2 Unmask 2 Stifle 3 Chain of Vapor 1 Tormod’s Crypt
Nate Baker Top 16 Playing 5/3
4 Mishra's Workshop 4 City of Brass 4 Gemstone mine 3 Ancient tomb 3 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 1 Tolarian Academy 8 SoLoMoxenCrypt 4 Juggernaut 1 Razormane 1 Dupe 1 Platinum 1 Titian 4 TFK 4 Welder 1 Ancestral 1 Walk 1 Tinker 1 Demonic Tutor 4 Trinisphere 4 Crucible of Worlds 4 Swords to Plowshares
Sideboard: 4 REB 4 COTV 1 Possessed Portal 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Seal of Cleansing
Nick Coss Top 16 Playing 5/3
4 Mishra's Workshop 4 Wasteland 4 Flooded Stand 1 Strip Mine 1 Shivan Reef 4 Volcanic Island 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Island 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 4 Juggernaut 1 Razormane 1 Duplicant 1 Sundering Titian 1 Karn, Silver Golem 1 Gorilla Shaman 4 TFK 4 Welder 1 Ancestral 1 Walk 1 Tinker 1 Mystical Tutor 4 Trinisphere 3 Crucible of Worlds 2 Fire/Ice 1 Memory Jar
Sideboard: 1 Fire/Ice 1 Echoing Truth 1 Tormod’s Crypt 4 Chalice of the Void 3 Pyrostatic Pillar 3 Rack and Ruin 2 Blue Elemental Blast
Corey Fraser Top 16 Playing Control Slaver
1 Pentavus 4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Ancestral Recall 2 Duress 2 Mindslaver 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Echoing Truth 1 Deep Analysis 1 Skeletal Scrying 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 1 Library of Alexandria 3 Underground Sea 3 Polluted Delta 1 Flooded Strand 1 Ancient Tomb 1 Strip Mine 4 Volcanic Island 3 Island
Sideboard: 3 Lava Dart 3 Flametongue Kavu 2 Duress 1 Echoing Truth 2 Blue Elemental Blast 3 Rack and Ruin 1 Coffin Purge
Wade Haras Top 16 Playing Growatog
4 Polluted Delta 1 Flooded Strand 3 Island 3 Tropical Island 4 Underground Sea 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Black Lotus 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 4 Brainstorm 4 Accumulated Knowledge 3 Duress 2 Merchant Scroll 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Vampric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Gush 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 3 Cunning Wish 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 1 Pernicious Deed 1 Regrowth 1 Swamp 4 Quirion Dryad 2 Psychatog
Sideboard: 1 Berserk 1 Pernicious Deed 2 Naturalize 1 Diabolic Edict 3 Energy Flux 1 Smother 1 Fact or Fiction 3 Blue Elemental Blast 1 Misdirection 1 Hurkyl’s Recall
Matt McNally Top 16 Playing Control Slaver
4 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 4 Volcanic Island 5 Island 2 Darksteel Citadel 5 Moxen 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Black Lotus 4 Goblin Welder 1 Pentavus 1 Platinum Angel 1 Triskelion 2 Mindslaver 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Brainstorm 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Accumulated Knowledge 3 Intuition 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Tinker
Sideboard: 2 Lava Dart 3 Red Elemental Blast 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Arcane Laboratory 2 Engineered Explosives 2 Waterfront Bouncer
Mike Panas Top 16 Playing 4CC
4 Brainstorm 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 3 Cunning Wish 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Balance 4 Flooded Strand 2 City of Brass 2 Volcanic Island 2 Island 3 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 2 Tundra 2 Underground Sea 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 2 Crucible of Worlds 1 Engineered Explosives 2 Decree of Justice 1 Exalted Angel 2 Swords to Plowshares 3 Skeletal Scrying 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Gorilla Shaman 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Plains
Sideboard: 2 Engineered Explosives 1 Exalted Angel 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Ray of Revelation 1 Vampric Tutor 1 Gorilla Shaman 1 Swords to Plowshares 1 Blue Elemental Blast 2 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Fire/ Ice 2 Rack and Ruin 1 Coffin Purge
Rich Shay Top 16 Playing Control Slaver
1 Triskelion 1 Platinum Angel 1 Pentavus 4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Ancestral Recall 2 Duress 2 Mindslaver 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 1 Lotus Petal 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Darksteel Citadel 3 Underground Sea 4 Polluted Delta 4 Volcanic Island 4 Island
Sideboard:
3 Lava Dart 2 Tormod's Crypt 1 Duress 2 Echoing Truth 4 Sphere of Resistance 3 Rack and Ruin
Ben Taraskevich(a.k.a. Waterbury Top 8 Kid) Top 16 Playing Control Slaver
1 Platinum Angel 1 Pentavus 4 Goblin Welder 4 Mana Drain 4 Force of Will 4 Thirst for Knowledge 4 Brainstorm 4 Accumulated Knowledge 3 Intuition 1 Ancestral Recall 2 Mindslaver 1 Tinker 1 Time Walk 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Sol Ring 1 Black Lotus 4 Flooded Strand 4 Volcanic Island 5 Island 1 Strip Mine 1 Darksteel Citadel 1 Underground Sea 1 Crucible of Worlds 1 Yawgmoth’s Will
Sideboard: 2 Lava Dart 3 Red Elemental Blast 2 Aether Spellbomb 2 Engineered Explosives 3 Rack and Ruin 3 Arcane Lab
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RIP Mogg Fanatic...at least you are still better than Fire Bowman!!!
I was once asked on MWS, what the highest I ever finished at a TMD Open was. I replied, "I've never played in a Waterbury. I was then called "A TOTAL NOOB!"
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2005, 03:11:06 pm » |
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You rule Ray.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 04:41:54 pm » |
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You rule Ray. I second. I put off correcting the rest of the exams to later in the weekend. I'd just like to add that no one expected you to do that, and that everyone would have understood if you had put your real life first and this second (cause students are more important). It speaks very highly of your dedication to being one of the finest TO's in all of Magic.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 05:12:07 pm » |
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Ray, you ran an AMAZING tournament. I am really looking forward to your TO report!
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Team Meandeck: VOTE RON PAUL KILL YOUR PARENTS MAKE GOLD ILLEGAL Doug was really attractive to me.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 05:43:31 pm » |
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Team Meandeck: classy old folks that meet up at the VFW on leap year
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 06:56:49 pm » |
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There's three things to being a successful TMD personality...
-Knowing Jeff -Lurking in IRC -Sucking up to Ray
Let the sucking begin!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 09:10:11 am » |
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Knowing Jeff Who's Jeff? -unsuccessful TMD personality
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2005, 12:33:18 pm » |
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Samite Healer, obv...
Ray, any idea when we can get to top 32 names so we can mark off our bingo charts?
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2005, 02:09:53 pm » |
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Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16?
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2005, 02:15:33 pm » |
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Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16? Are you really asking that somebody else count for you? Are you really that lazy???
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2005, 03:37:16 pm » |
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Wow. How many Control Slaver is there in the T16? Are you really asking that somebody else count for you? Are you really that lazy??? Of course not, that was as a matter of speaking. To clarify, I was just amazed how many Control Slaver decks there were in the top 16. Seems like Control Slaver really dominated the tournament
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2005, 11:09:08 pm » |
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who else wants to puke at the control slaver count?
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Signature, Smignature, Isn't this where people should write there name illegibly?
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Minsc And Boo And You!.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2005, 11:15:19 pm » |
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Any way I could get an exact number of players from anyone who knows? I'm trying to write the Dec-Jan article immediately as the SCG T8 goes up.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2005, 11:25:01 pm » |
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P.P.S. I now realise that it is possible that you have mistaken Holland for Iraq as neither have weapons of mass destruction.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2005, 11:42:33 pm » |
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Correction...the exact attendance was 200. Rich Shay and one other gentleman were accidentally entered twice.
Edit: As promised, the withheld decklist has now been published.
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RIP Mogg Fanatic...at least you are still better than Fire Bowman!!!
I was once asked on MWS, what the highest I ever finished at a TMD Open was. I replied, "I've never played in a Waterbury. I was then called "A TOTAL NOOB!"
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2005, 03:51:18 am » |
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Wow
the first workshops come in 8th
So everybody who wants to restrict Workshop: please die
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2005, 01:19:23 pm » |
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It should be noted that it was the first workshops out of like 2 workshop decks in the tournament.
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So I suppose I should take The Fringe back out of my sig now...
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Juggernaut GO
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2005, 04:00:18 pm » |
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plz restrict mana drain & illusionary mask omg!!!
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Rand Paul is a stupid fuck, just like his daddy. Let's go buy some gold!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 09:44:52 am » |
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why illusionary mask? I mean the 40 some odd drains in top 16 migh give you an argument some how...I don't buy it but still, there's something there. The 0ish illusionary masks even played in the tournament make this an odd choice.
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"it's brainstorm...how can you not play brainstorm? You've cast that card right? and it resolved?" -Pat Chapin
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2005, 02:48:15 pm » |
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God,
Knowing even a little bit about Statistics makes me cringe everytime I hear someone say, look at the number of card x's in the top 8 of tournament y.
Just because a card shows a high appearance percentage, does not mean it is broken.
Consider a format where you must make a 60 card deck out of the following cards, and you may ignore the 4 per deck rule:
Forest Island Plains Swamp Mountain Hurloon Minotaur Grey Ogre
Is Hurloon Monotaur broken because every deck will be some number of mountains and all the rest some number of Minotaurs? Is Mountain Broken simply because it will make up 100% of land used in all decks?
There will always be better cards, and as such, those cards will show up more regularly. What really should be the determinant for if a card should be restricted or banned is how the card impacts the ability for the game to be played out. Cards are typically banned because they enable games to be too one sided, typically in combo decks which typically don't allow a player much time to do anything short of Force of Will.
Type 1 is about good cards and Mana Drain is one such good card but is hardly broken.
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RIP Mogg Fanatic...at least you are still better than Fire Bowman!!!
I was once asked on MWS, what the highest I ever finished at a TMD Open was. I replied, "I've never played in a Waterbury. I was then called "A TOTAL NOOB!"
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2005, 05:40:41 pm » |
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I love you.
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2005, 09:54:43 am » |
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dude, read my post. specifically the part that says: I don't buy it wasn't actually advocating anything, I'm just saying if you were gonna pick something based on the results of the tournament...Illusionary mask?
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2005, 03:05:19 pm » |
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Closed due to rampant sarcasm and ignorance.
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Team Meandeck: O Lord, Guard my tongue from evil and my lips from speaking guile. To those who slander me, let me give no heed. May my soul be humble and forgiving to all.
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