Sac a fetch, find myself a 6/8

[Gabethebabe]

This happened in a Spanish local shop tourney:

Some player cracked a fetchland and put into play:

Island Fish Jasconius
{U}{U}
Creature — Island-Fish
6/8
Island Fish Jasconius can’t attack unless defending player controls an Island.
Jasconius doesn’t untap during your untap step.
{U}{U} :Untap Jasconius. Play this ability only during your upkeep.
When you control no Islands, sacrifice Jasconius.

The shopowner said: damn, I didn´t know that there was a creature with the creature types Island and Fish and he allowed it.

You have to compliment the player and the level-minus-infinity judge on the originality of this rules abberation

[BlkXplsn]

You've got to be shitting us.

[dandan]

Thank God he didn't put a Mountain Goat into play. That would have been broken!

[Malhavoc]

Ok, jasconius has type "Island-Fish", which is not Island, but what if it had "Island Fish" (which means both types "Fish" and "Island"). Would it be legal?  :shock:  (of course this is an almost meningless question, since it's not so, but I'm just curious). I think it would be legal... in that case, here's the combo: a huge amount of fetchlands plus




Plus...

[dandan]

Perhaps the judge allowed it because it was a turn 1 play.

[Hyperion]

Polluted Delta/Flooded Strand say to search for an island/swamp or island/plains card. Island-Fish Jaconius is a creature card. So I can't imagine any (logical) line of reasoning that would make fetching it out seem reasonable, hyphen or no.

[Malhavoc]

Polluted Delta/Flooded Strand say to search for an island/swamp card. Island-Fish Jaconius is a creature card. So I can't imagine any (logical) line of reasoning that would make fetching it out seem reasonable, hyphen or no.

Oh, well, maybe the Timmy that was in me just fell in love with the above combo..  :lol:

[Gabethebabe]

You've got to be shitting us.

How is your Spanish?

[Bram]

How is your Spanish?

It sucks poodle balls, thanks. Apparently, so does Babelfish's.

Hello to all. The other day, playing a match T1 my opponent sacrificed one fechland and fish jaconious (T.T) like noneramos teniamos put into play a Island to me faq, had remained without Internet the owner of the premises and jústamente it was celebration local (San Sebastián)(como you see aligned planets and ademas in my against) the judge, being based on which the letters ponian said that the fish could be looked for and to put it in game and although I knew very well that not could, unfortunately I I was not the judge and I ate pie....

If I was facing an illegally played Jasconius, I'd probably start eating pie as well.

[Machinus]

Did he flip out and destroy the judge and the opposing player? Or at least, pack up his stuff, leave the store, and never buy another card there?

I wouldn't take the advice of this guy, but I can see where he is coming from:

no juegues T1

[Gabethebabe]

How is your Spanish?

It sucks pooble balls, thanks. Apparently, so does Babelfish's.

WHOEHAHAHA

The errors are due to lazy Spanish people not putting accents on the words and therefore the words are not recognized. Also forum posts are not always in perfect grammar  

[Hyperion]

Malhavoc, I stand corrected. I think you were right. I received this response via PM:

Because I can't post there but wanted to reply...

Polluted Delta/Flooded Strand say to search for an island/swamp card. Island-Fish Jaconius is a creature card. So I can't imagine any (logical) line of reasoning that would make fetching it out seem reasonable, hyphen or no.

The way I understand it, fetchlands (and any other similar effects) look to match their keyword with a supertype, type, or subtype of a card. A Polluted Delta can get you an Island because your Island has the type 'Basic Land - Island'. It sees the match between the 'island' in its text and the 'Island' subtype of the land you're going for. This is the reason dual lands work with fetches, because they possess the appropriate subtypes - for instance, you can fetch an Underground Sea with Polluted Delta because the Sea's type is 'Land - Island Swamp'. Island keyword on the fetch matches Island subtype on your dual land.

Thus, because the fetches only effectively look at the subtype (there being no Island type or supertype), if Island Fish Jasconius was actually typed 'Creature - Island Fish', then the fetch trick would indeed work. Fetch looks for subtype Island, and finds it - there's no condition that the card need be a land or anything else.

I checked the MWS card database and no other creatures have been made with a basic land name in their subtype, and hopefully they never will .

[Jebus]

[Machinus]

:(

rofl

I guess maro is going to have to scrap his ideas for the basic-land block.

[Hyperion]

Just goes to show that Islands are broken after all.

[Malhavoc]

AH! The power gamer that was in me could not fail!  

BTW, am I wrong or Jasconius (without the errata) would also be able to tap for mana according to the current rules?  :lol:  :lol:

[Azhrei]

That is the single most amazing thing that has ever, or will ever, exist in Magic.  Mono-blue with 8 fetchlands will now never, EVER lose to a weenie rush, trinisphere, or anything. This is actually really incredibly good as a sideboard or even maindeck option.

ALL HAIL ISLAND FISH!

[Bram]

Yup, this ranks right up there with the (actually legal) play of Booster Tutor for Radiate --> Ass Whooping.

[Azhrei]

Yup, this ranks right up there with the (actually legal) play of Booster Tutor for Radiate --> Ass Whooping.

Explain please. I feel like I'm missing something there.

[Bram]

Oh, there was a thread about that a while back. It actually happened apparently, and it's actually a 'legal' play (in terms of Unhinged, that is). It was at an Unhinged prerelease event.

This one guy played a Booster Tutor:

Open a sealed Magic booster pack, reveal the cards, and put one of those cards into your hand. (Remove that card from your deck before beginning a new game.)

He opened (possibly bought, I'm not sure) a Torment booster which cotained in its rare slot a Radiate:

Choose target instant or sorcery spell that targets only a single permanent or player. For each other permanent or player that spell could target, put a copy of the spell onto the stack. Each copy targets a different one of those permanents and players.

He put it in his hand, and proceeded to play the Ass Whuppin' he had drafted:

Destroy target silver-bordered permanent in any game you can see from your seat.

He then succesfully resolved his Radiate, choosing the Ass Whuppin'. The upshot of all this was that he pretty much cleared the board of every single player in the store.

[Azhrei]

Heh, okay, I didn't realize "ass whooping" was a card.

[leviat]

Just goes to show that Islands are broken after all.

ROFLMAO

[MuzzonoAmi]

So Islands.dec is now viable?