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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2005, 09:21:51 am » |
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Q: can these cards be sleeved and played in a tourney? truly a steal for the player who cares not for collectibility but only for the game. answered on: 24-Dec-04
A: yes, these cards can be played in a tournament, the condition of the cards does not matter . I highly doubt that. I mean, this hole so so big, you can easily feel if it's on top or cheat while shuffling or something. I once saw a lotus just like that one. A desk lamp fel on it and burnt a hole in it. It may or may not be the same one. |
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<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
<j_orlove> but not the half that tells me how others should live theirs
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2005, 10:07:25 am » |
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The mox definetly looks like collectors edition defaced on the back to hide the gold print.
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2005, 10:20:15 am » |
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Unfortunately, the persistent problem with defaced CE power is that there is always the possibility of the seller just passing on something that came into his hands. Suppose the Mox were real -- it would be playable. In that case, if it is real, then we can't/shouldn't treat it as though it is defaced CE. If it is not real, then we face the dilemma of harming the last person to have purchased it, whether he's actually guilty of fraud or not.
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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2005, 10:21:40 am » |
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Q: can these cards be sleeved and played in a tourney? truly a steal for the player who cares not for collectibility but only for the game. answered on: 24-Dec-04
A: yes, these cards can be played in a tournament, the condition of the cards does not matter . I highly doubt that. I mean, this hole so so big, you can easily feel if it's on top or cheat while shuffling or something. I once saw a lotus just like that one. A desk lamp fel on it and burnt a hole in it. It may or may not be the same one. It's playable in Top Loaders. I don't know about the tournaments that are played outside of Newfoundland, but I know that around here a lot of people play in Top Loaders, even if the best card they own is a Force of Will ... :shock: But I wouldn't pay 400-500 US for those 2 cards thats for sure. The mox definetly looks like collectors edition defaced on the back to hide the gold print. I think its very real, just in very poor condition. Not to throw the thread totally off topic, could someone private message me a link to a site which gives you a good example on how to find out if your cards are real (especially power). I really want to make sure mine are real. ~cheers ~dj |
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2005, 11:18:47 am » |
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It's playable in Top Loaders. Most judges don't allow toploaders. I don't know a single one who would. Besides, above REL-1, they're not even allowed AFAIK. |
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<j_orlove> I am semi-religious
<BR4M> I like that. which half of god do you believe in?
<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
<j_orlove> but not the half that tells me how others should live theirs
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2005, 11:27:15 am » |
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Well, I'm really sad reading this...My collection is literally the smalles off all off these; NO power, no good decks, nothing...  The cards I ordered at starcitygames.com didn't show...My collection is real weak now...(yeah I just needed to whine a bit  ) Ps. Bram Check my sig...  |
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2005, 11:40:34 am » |
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Freelancer, when you say that you own no Vintage material, how badly off are you? All I can boast of is 3 Force of Will, 1 Underground Sea, 2 Tropical Island, and Vampiric Tutor. I have a bunch of other restricted goodies, but none of them are all that expensive (Demonic Tutor, Burning Wish, Sol Ring, etc.)
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2005, 11:44:46 am » |
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4x force, 1x rod, 1x demonic tutor, 1x trop. island, 4x polluted delta, madness cards besides 1x aquamoeba (yes seriously) Thats about my collection off playable/good cards...  |
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2005, 11:57:35 am » |
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Unfortunately, the persistent problem with defaced CE power is that there is always the possibility of the seller just passing on something that came into his hands. Suppose the Mox were real -- it would be playable. In that case, if it is real, then we can't/shouldn't treat it as though it is defaced CE. If it is not real, then we face the dilemma of harming the last person to have purchased it, whether he's actually guilty of fraud or not. So... what you're saying is, as long as you didn't make the fake, it's a real card? Or should I read your post a few times over? That doesn't really sound like a good policy for any official event. 4x force, 1x rod, 1x demonic tutor, 1x trop. island, 4x polluted delta, madness cards besides 1x aquamoeba (yes seriously) When did Rod become a good card? |
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2005, 12:42:16 pm » |
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It's playable in Top Loaders. Most judges don't allow toploaders. I don't know a single one who would. Besides, above REL-1, they're not even allowed AFAIK. heh Things are a little different around here I guess ... I'm not saying that the tournaments are mismanaged or that they aren't run by the rules. I'm just saying that most players, and judges don't mind the top loaders. (This is for Type 1 tournaments only) I can see why they aren't used though, they can be marked fairly easily. The tournaments aren't as big around here either. Anyways, just trying to put it into perspective. I don't mind people playing in toploaders, as long as they don't cheat ... I keep a close eye ... ~cheers ~dj |
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2005, 12:43:56 pm » |
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I'm not saying it's a good policy. All I'm saying is that if the "best" solution is to shrug and tell the guy who's just discovered that he bought a fake card that he's out of luck, then we don't have a good solution at all. If you were to go to the grocery store and they gave you a counterfeit bill as change, but you didn't discover it until you went to spend it elsewhere, you'd lose out, through no fault of your own. It's the same situation -- how do you provide recompense for the innocent victims of any form of counterfeit?
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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2005, 01:48:44 pm » |
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I'm not saying it's a good policy. All I'm saying is that if the "best" solution is to shrug and tell the guy who's just discovered that he bought a fake card that he's out of luck, then we don't have a good solution at all. If you were to go to the grocery store and they gave you a counterfeit bill as change, but you didn't discover it until you went to spend it elsewhere, you'd lose out, through no fault of your own. It's the same situation -- how do you provide recompense for the innocent victims of any form of counterfeit? I know it is very unfortunate for the victim, there is no debate there. But allowing counterfeit cards to be used just because somebody is unlucky/ignorant doesn't seem like a good idea. Also, it sends a message to counterfeiters that it is okay what they are doing, as long as they either don't get caught when selling, or when they lie about it. That doesn't seem like a very good option either. |
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« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2005, 02:17:17 pm » |
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If the grocery store puts you out 20 bucks, you go tell them they have a big problem, since if they got passed one bill, they are getting passed lots of bills. They are a corporation, and they have some kind of counterfeit protection policy, and they might be nice to you. The government is serious about counterfeiting, and their policy is to scare you into taking care of yourself.
We don't have that option as magic players, since we don't print the cards, and all the moxes have been printed already. The mindset that you shouldn't buy cards that you aren't sure about is the best one, and seriously it is just like any other investment. Do your research and be wise with your capital.
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2005, 09:09:52 am » |
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When did Rod become a good card? When did it start to suck? moxen and lotus are still played... You cannot protect the guy who bought the fake mox, who can prove he didn't actually 'produced' that mox himself? Bad luck to him if he did cough up the money, any serious traders can recognize a fake mox quite well... |
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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2005, 08:54:43 am » |
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if you want to go on pure pimp factor:
- Full set of UL power (minus twister)
- Signed Drains
- Beta Sol Ring + Balance
- 2 BB Tundras
- BB Demonic
- Foil Unhinged Islands + Swamps
- (Soon to have) Doug Linn Modified Decree of Justice x3
- 10 Volcanic Islands, 6 Tundras, 7 Underground Seas, 4 Tropical Island
- Asian Welders
- Foil Fact or Fiction
- Signed Old Man of the Sea
- Alt. Art Sol Ring
- Signed Library of Alexandria
Plus, I have 5 Demonic Tutors, 5 Sol Rings, 10 or 11 wastelands, all of the components for Stax (minus workshops), most of the components for dragon (minus squee and bazaar), and all of the components for combo.
Currently, I have the following decks sleeved (most have proxied power. One has all my power in it):
- Oath
- 3cControl
- U/W Fish
- Doomsday
- Meandeck Tendrils
I used to have CS sleeved, but I took it apart. C'est la vie.
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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2005, 12:45:00 pm » |
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if you want to go on pure pimp factor: heh I don't see the pure pimp factor!  I see a nice collection though! |
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2005, 12:50:58 pm » |
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well i feel bad my pimp cards are hardly anywhere close:
4 signed/altered fows
4 eng drains
2 fbb signed vocls
2 fbb seas
beat emerald
ex ancestral recall
4 signed/personalized brainstorm
signed fact or fiction
2 foil rack and ruins
1 foil lava dart
1 Alpha Demonic tutor
1 Signed yawgwin
ya i got nothing on most of u
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2005, 04:19:19 pm » |
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Well, if we're whipping pimped foils/BBs out (including a Garfield signed Library of Alexandria), it'll take me all day to type that up. I have almost anything I could want foiled (save for Polluted Deltas - Strands are dime a dozen). And as soon as payment arrives for the Bazaars I sold, I'll be picking up an Emerald to add to my list of P9 (ya know, that thing the topic was?) Come to think of it, the only thing I'd really want at this point as far as foils go are Sundering Titans. And not just normal foil Titans... I need French foil Titans.  |
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2005, 12:27:27 pm » |
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not too much...most proud of my...
32 Fow (minty to ex)
p9 set (UNL - lotus)
CE lotus, recall
2x mox ruby
2x a.recall
1x time walk
4x berserk
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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2005, 01:49:27 am » |
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DMSA!!! Jefey's Friend Anthony aka DMSA (dead man still alive)
has over 300 pieces of power... so he wins.... this is what jeff is telling me
anyone touches anythony.. i will have to injure you ^__^ k tks by
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