SUIBLACK help with metagame

[mastropierro]

i hvae an extremely limited metagame (aka my 3 friends) no major control or combo or graveyard. the top decks are as follows:

red ahnk sligh heavy burn, lavamancers slith 1/1 gets bigger guys mws and scrolls
white weenie exalted angels and new equipment and chrome moxes
and mono blue artifact
those are the big ones

4 Shades
4 Hippies
4 warbeasts
2 shadow guys
2 masticores (possibly razormanes)

2 duress
2 osctracize
4 sinkhole
4 tourachs
2 whispers
2 powderkegs
2 diabolic edicts, snuffouts?

4 rituals
4 petals

18 swamps
new cards want/have to put in
4 cabal therapies
4 nights whispers

other cards to play around with
4 carnophages
4 wastelands
4 sarcomancies
kaerveks spite
4 bloodstained mires
can get more petals
4 razormane masticores, dont like other creatures but 5 is rough can get real masticores though
4 wastelands (only real threat are mws in sligh)
4 diabolic edicts
full set of shadow guys

i would like any ideas and any new cards i should look to acquire just as that new 2/1 guy that lets me draw cards for life (not out yet)

can you help me tweak any possibilities that i have with the cards im showing. are cards like null rod, necro, trinispere, crucible, and withered wretches worth it? no money for chainsi know all the decktypes are outdated but we dont spend much on cards. this is my first time posting and would really appreciate any help[/card]

[Disburden]

I would deeply consider fetchlands like Polluted Delta, bloodstained mire, etc. four of them. This will help you alot when it comes to thinning your deck out mid-late game, thus speeding up your draws.

I dont know how many decks you play against that use graveyard abuse (welders, etc) . If you see that kind of thing often I would also put in withered wretch. He is great against this decks in monoblack.
Hypnotic specter is just slow in my opinion and no where as good as he used to be back in 1995, so I would take him out for the Wretch if you  see what I mentioned earlier.

Sinkhole is just out of date as is. I would use Crucible of worlds over this with wastelands/strip mine to lock your opponent down manawise. It is a great addtion to sui black since its a rather slow deck. Also crucible is rather popular and itll leave your sinkholes weak.

Running four duress is a must, I wouldnt run two. It's one of the best disruption cards in the game!

I know this is a casual deck, but Im strongly against running restricted cards in four-ofs in a deck of this kind. Casual is casual, yes, but you should really still follow atleast the restriction rules. If you need more acceleration, then why not just proxy black lotus and mox jet? Proxing is even allowed in non-sanctioned tournaments and is less offensive than running multiple copies of a restricted card. Just print them out and stick them in a sleeve with a land behind it, it'll feel like you own power and show you how great it really is.

I hope this was helpful in some way and good luck with your deck!

[ReAnimator]

@ Disburden

He clearly states that his metagame consists of 3 decks at the top of the post.  None of them are control or use graveyards.

@ Mastropierro

2 of my favorite cards that would be decent vs 2 of the decks you discribe (w & r) are Plague Spitter and Cumbajj Witches.  They are both very cheap to aquire and quite good. They dont have a lot of synergy with shades but their abilities on their own are quite strong (the witches more so).  

Its hard to say what would be good vs this blue deck as you didnt really describe it.  If this deck runs creatures than mutilate and some cabal coffers would be a beating in your metagame especially with some of the other cards on this list.

Distress is also a new and good card that you may want to run over ostracize since it is more versitile and it always hits something. though you dont really want tooo many 2CC cards in your deck.

Beacon of unrest may be interesting vs the white and artifact deck, It works quite well with discard and creature kill ("i'll take that exalted angel if you dont mind").  

If you want a big finisher with a managable upkeep greater harvester is quite nasty especially if you can clear the way with edicts ect .

I would definitly run 1 chrom mox since your manacurve bulges at 2CC and you have ways to recoup the card advantage.  
 
Funeral charm isnt bad either vs just about everything since its never dead and even its 3rd ability is sweet with greater harveste/hippe

What is your budget? most of the cards i mentioned are really cheap but mutilates and a chrome mox can be pricey, does this matter?

A lot of my suggestions would gear your deck more towards control but that seems like it would be better in your meta anyways, is this a problem for the theme of your deck or your playstyle? or are you just looking for something fun and new to run?

 
Hope this helps.

[JoshuaD]

@ Its hard to say what would be good vs this blue deck as you didnt really describe it. If this deck runs creatures than mutilate and some cabal coffers would be a beating in your metagame especially with some of the other cards on this list.

It's an illegal variation on Kai Budde's Blue artifact deck.  I'm doing this from memory, but it should be right:

4x Grim Monolith
4x Thran Dynamo
4x Voltaic Key
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Vault
2x Sky Diamond

2x Karn Silver Golem
2x Masticore
2x Urza's Blueprints
2x Mishra's Helix
2x Tangle Wire

4x Counterspell
4x Tinker
1x Braingeyser
1x Stroke of Genius
2x Capsize

That's not the actual deck list, but it shows the idea.  It was originally a legal type 2 deck back when Urza's was around, we just kinda let it live since it wasn't abusing the mana cards too bad.

[Ivantheterrible]

4x Tinker
4x Grim Monolith

Wow and Disburden thought 4 petals was offensive! Yeah um its one thing to run sketcy restricted cards (i.e. key) as four ofs but tinker is just redicualiosly busted, your friend should probably chop that down to 1 or 2, unless the rest of your really dont mind. Sligh agianst 6 copies of masticore dosnt really seam to fair.

[ReAnimator]

WOW  :shock: if this is the stuff your running against i HEARTILY endorse something built around the following :

4x yawgmoths will
4x demonic tutor
4x yawgmoths bargain
4x vampiric tutor  
and lots and lots of dark rituals
 and a win condition of your choosing.

   

 

of course i'm kidding

[JoshuaD]

4x Tinker
4x Grim Monolith

Wow and Disburden thought 4 petals was offensive! Yeah um its one thing to run sketcy restricted cards (i.e. key) as four ofs but tinker is just redicualiosly busted, your friend should probably chop that down to 1 or 2, unless the rest of your really dont mind. Sligh agianst 6 copies of masticore dosnt really seam to fair.

Yea, the deck is slowly getting dismantled.  It's not overpowering the meta-game, so we don't mind it.  It's actually kinda nice to have, because we don't have many other control-esque decks, and it helps simulate a control matchup.

The sligh deck he's talking about can be seen here, and the WW deck is the legacy angel stompy that zilla put together.

[warble]

I for one think the best way to teach

4x Tinker
4x Grim Monolith

boy a lesson would be for you to run

4x Black Lotus
20x Mox
4x Sol Ring
4x Elvish Spirit Guide

as your mana base with a mountain.

Hey man, you could be like, "What?  You have your stupid tinker!"

[Danzig]

No one has said anything about Contagion!
It completely nullifies Exalted Angel, kills off small tohgness creatures and brings down the power of problem creatures.