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Well, simple question really. The question came to me after I realized what a badass Vader was for being, well Vader, and what a badass Gandalf was for beating up the Balrog.
If Vader and Gandalf got in a fight, who would win?
To help you decide, I've come up with these parameters:
- Vader has his Lightsaber, Gandalf has his stick type thingy.
- Vader is in hardcore mode (none of this pussy Anakin crap), Gandalf transformed into Gandalf the White.
- After that, no rules. Any trick available in each persons reportoire is at their disposal.
World peace may depend upon the outcome of this poll. Choose wisely!
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 08:16:10 am » |
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- Vader has his Lightsaber, Gandalf has his stick type thingy.
-Vader has his Death Star, Gandalf has his hobbit friends. |
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 08:32:27 am » |
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Gandalf walks through snow on foot. Vader has AT-ATs
Gandalf flies on an eagle. Vader uses his own TIE-fighter
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 12:50:59 pm » |
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Gandalf all the way. He'd turn Vader into a pyre with a fireball. You have to remember Gandalf has magic to use, and just because Peter Jackson doesn't like the whole, sword and sorcery, spellflinging type of Wizard, doesn't mean that Gandalf can't turn somebody into ash.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 02:27:29 pm » |
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It's not just Jackson. Tolkien himself didn't write much about what Gandalf could actually do, because that would have defeated the entire point of focusing on the hobbits. Now, I haven't read the Silmarillion, but apparently Gandalf is a lot more powerful than the LotR trilogy suggests--he wields one of the three rings of the elves, and deliberately tries to not interfere with his powers beyond a certain threshold, or something.
Anyway, as cool as Vader is, he stands no chance.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2005, 02:31:58 pm » |
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Gandalf can create cool fireworks in his cart. Vader needs an entire artificial moon for that.
Gandalf doesn't get broken by the Dark Side. We all know what happened to Vader...
Gandalf can sleep with his eyes open. Vader wears a mask while sleeping.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2005, 03:15:57 pm » |
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Hmmm
Gandalf is the most powerful goodguy right? So why talk about Vader? Lets graduate this discussion to the Emperor.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2005, 09:18:28 pm » |
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Gandalf is a divine being.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2005, 04:10:22 pm » |
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superman would totally kick batman's ass
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2005, 05:50:40 pm » |
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superman would totally kick batman's ass
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it generally accepted that Superman always wins if it's a fair fight and Batman always wins if it's an unfair fight? |
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2005, 06:27:15 pm » |
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superman would totally kick batman's ass
I got into an arguement with a friend of mine once about that. I said Batman and my friend said Superman. An hour later, some TV show came on where Superman went all evil and nobody could stop him. Then Batman busted out his secret stash of kryptonite and pwned Superman in the butt with it. Then I took my friend's five buck and life was good. Batman always wins. There are no fair fights. And oh yeah... Gandalf all the way. He'd turn Vader into a pyre with a fireball. What if Vader used The Force to move ur mom or some other large, inanimate object in the way of said fireball to intercept it? What then? I'm sure Gandalf would eventually run out of MPs to throw fireballs with before he could burninate Vader. Have you ever played Star Wars Battlefront? The only way to get rid of those Jedi bitches are hand grenades and ledges and/or pits. And even then, they only fall to their doom for so long before they come back and you have to handgrenade them off again. Yeah, that's right. Hand grenades beat Jedi. Fuck The Force, I've got hand grenades. But Gandalf doesn't have any handgrenades, so he loses. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 12:24:57 pm » |
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Yeah, that's right. Hand grenades beat Jedi. Fuck The Force, I've got hand grenades. But Gandalf doesn't have any handgrenades, so he loses.
Yah but he has huge Fireworks, so I'm sure hand grenades are easy enough for Gandalf to make. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2005, 04:25:51 pm » |
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Vadar can block spells with the force (see Empire Strikes Back). Vadar also probably is immune to mind controlling affects as he is a construct. Depending on the type of construct vadar may also be immune to spells but I really couldn't tell you.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2005, 01:41:24 pm » |
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May I remind everyone that Gandalf is a demigod? Gandalf, one of the Istari (or Wizards) was in fact one of the Maiar, or servants created by the Valar (the children of God). He is of the same 'race' as Melkor/Morgoth.
I mean the guy died and was reborn! We're talking actual, physical-form reincarnation as opposed to that 'one with the force' blue ghost crap. It was explicitly forbidden to the Istari to reveal their true nature or use the full extent of their power in direct confrontation with The Enemy, which means anything we've seen/read about him doing, was peanuts.
Obviously this restriction would not apply to a battle with Vader. Mithrandir would murder Vader before he even knew what was happening.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2005, 02:52:22 pm » |
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- Vader has his Lightsaber, Gandalf has his stick type thingy.
-Vader has his Death Star, Gandalf has his hobbit friends. Yeah I mean we all know that Frodo and Sam would be off on a quest to throw that core snippet that he made for Padme in the Pit of Carnac, while Pippin woud take up his blade and stab vader in the calf when Vader was confronting Gandalf. Not that Gandalf would need the help. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2005, 06:13:02 pm » |
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Obviously this restriction would not apply to a battle with Vader. Mithrandir would murder Vader before he even knew what was happening.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 08:22:36 am » |
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I once had a bottle of shampoo in the form of Vader. Gandalf doesn't do stuff like that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 09:31:04 am » |
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 01:00:46 pm » |
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I think some of you might appreciate the photoshop work I did inspired by this thread. It's my interpretation of the Balrog fight.  I don't care how it looks. Gandalf is still gonna pwn Vader's ass. |
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<j_orlove> the half that tells me how to live my life
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2005, 01:20:09 pm » |
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2005, 01:11:25 pm » |
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Boromir: "What new devilry is this?"
Gandalf: "Balrog...A demon from the underworld, this foe is far greater then anyone of you...  RRRRUUUUUNNNN"
Gandalf:Â "I am Gandalf the Grey, Wielder of the flame of Ulna.... YOU SHALL NOT PASS! (Or in the sweetly imported Chinese two towers I have... "SHHUUUUTTTT UPPPP")
Vader:Â /kill padme
Vader:Â "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
Yeah come on Vader, Gandalf owns all over you.  Lets keep in mind, Gandalfs acting > Vaders SWIII acting.  Gandalf slays mobs via recreating the sun rising, Vader kills younglings... OOO wow, your tough Vader.
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