Would this Black Lotus be legal in a sleeve?

[Killertree]

[Mixing Mike]

If I was the TO or judge, I'd say make an extra proxy for it.

But I doubt it's legal unless you change the sleeve every game or so.

[rvs]

If you can cut to it (and I'm sure I can), it's not legal. Just ask the HJ prior to the event.

[Kerith]

If I was the TO or judge, I'd say make an extra proxy for it.

Aren't proxies only allowed if the card was damaged during the tournament? (For sanctioned tournaments of course)

[epeeguy]

Aren't proxies only allowed if the card was damaged during the tournament? (For sanctioned tournaments of course)

In general, yes.  The only other time it is allowed, is if the card were to go missing.  In most cases, we would prefer that the player actually replace the card, as opposed to issue a proxy to replace the card.  Especially in Constructed events.

If this occured in a 10 proxy tournament I was at, and the player already has 10 other proxies in their deck, I'd have to ask that the player find a replacement card and I would not issue a proxy for this.  Or the player could find an actual card to replace one of their proxies and then redo their proxy as the Lotus (to keep the number of proxies exactly the same).

[Toad]

Aren't proxies only allowed if the card was damaged during the tournament? (For sanctioned tournaments of course)

That is correct.

EDIT - Even if the card is missing (lost during a sealed deck tournament, for example), you are not allowed to proxie it. The card is lost, the player will not be able to play with it, period. Players have to be careful with their cards.

The use of proxy cards is not permitted except under the following conditions:
§ If a card becomes accidentally damaged or excessively worn through play in the current DCI-sanctioned tournament, the judge may provide a proxy replacement card at his or her discretion or require the player to sleeve all of his or her cards before play continues.
§ If a card opened out of sealed product for use in a Limited tournament is misprinted, miscut, or otherwise damaged in a way that would cause the card to be marked, the judge may provide a proxy replacement card at his or her discretion.

There is no real answer to the question we can give by only seeing a picture of the card. Ask the HJ of your tournament and he'll have final authority on that (and no, he won't allow you to proxie it). If you want to have an answer now, just put the Lotus in a sleeve, add a dozen of other cards in the same sleeves, shuffle them, and try to see if you can find the Lotus while cutting. If yes, then the Lotus is not legal. If no, HJ opinion is needed...

[Mixing Mike]

If this occured in a 10 proxy tournament I was at, and the player already has 10 other proxies in their deck, I'd have to ask that the player find a replacement card and I would not issue a proxy for this.

This is what I meant.

[Killertree]

Just wondering, if it was tourny legal, how much do you think that black lotus would be worth?  I mean yeah its worth nothing to collectors but how much is it worth to be able to have a tourny legal black lotus?

[epeeguy]

EDIT - Even if the card is missing (lost during a sealed deck tournament, for example), you are not allowed to proxie it. The card is lost, the player will not be able to play with it, period. Players have to be careful with their cards.

I respectfully have to disagree, as that has certainly not been my experience as a judge.  I've definitely seen instances in Sealed where a card has gone missing, and a proxy was issued by a judge if another copy could not be found.  In Constructed, certainly, the player should find a replacement card; but in Sealed, it's a bit of a different situation.

[Gabethebabe]

Just wondering, if it was tourny legal, how much do you think that black lotus would be worth?  I mean yeah its worth nothing to collectors but how much is it worth to be able to have a tourny legal black lotus?

Put it on eBay and you will know.