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« on: June 16, 2005, 06:04:19 am »

The deck is based around getting out the Urzatron, which is kind of easy thanks to Crop Rotation. I was wondering about the kills for the deck; so far, it has beatdown and then direct damage. If I'm missing out on anything, please let me know!

Green:
4 Reap and Sow
4 Crop Rotation
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Krosan Tusker
4 Crash of Rhinos

Red:
4 Fireball
4 K-torch

Artifacts:
4 Triskelion (these are U1, I know some groups don't count that)
4 Serrated Arrows

Manas:
12 Urzatron
1 Maze of Ith
2 Mountain
9 Forest

The shell of the deck is entirely common. If Trikes aren't allowed, Sylvan Scrying could easily go in instead. I somehow feel like this has a slow or bad kill. Does anyone have a better suggestion? Am I missing out on big fat men or hot spells to cast? I had Ebony Rhino in there for a while too. The deck handles weenies with quick Arrows and Trikes, as well as a Rotated Maze if you need to stop reanimated stuff or Togs. I haven't given it much testing, but there it is. Perhaps Avarice Totem could make its way in!

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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2005, 10:16:51 am »

A few thoughts:

Have you had any problems getting the first green mana?  I'm thinking that Wirewood Guardian might be worth it in the Tusker slot for this reason.  Or maybe some combination of the two.

I can't believe I'm about to say this but Titanic Bulvox might be good here.  In the Crash of Rhinos slot.  You lose one point of power for the ability to play it as a morph.  The morph cost is a little tricky though at 4GGG.

As for Trike substitutes, Savage Twister, Elephant Grass, or Slice and Dice come to mind, although none of them can double as a win condition like Triskelion, and Slice and Dice is probably too difficult to cast.  Or what about Ancient Hydra or Squallmonger? 

I might try the Twister and swap the Rhinos for Rootbreaker Wurms, since they're a bit cheaper and tougher.

I don't know if it's worth wasting an uncommon slot on, but Sensei's Divining Top might be halfway decent given the amount of shuffle effects you have and the lack of card drawing/sifting/filtering/etc..  Fierce Empath might also be a decent way to tutor up a win condition.

Hope that helps!

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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2005, 01:41:40 pm »

Crash of Rhinos is incredibly poor, isn't it?

Would Cloudpost be better than Urzatron?
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2005, 03:42:19 pm »

I thought about running Top in here to replace trikes. The shuffling would make it worth it.

Crash of Rhinos is about the biggest beater in the common slot, and I feel like I might just need to pound face in for a while against some decks. I agree that it looks odd, but I don't know what I would replace it with.

I tried Cloudpost before I tried the Tron. The biggest hurdle is that CIPT thing. Outside of turn 1, dropping Post always means that you have to wait a turn. It's critical to get Reap and Sow off ASAP, and so a tapped Cloudpost doesn't help out at all. The Tron seems harder to assemble, but I haven't really run into problems with getting it online. However, the abundance of Strip Mines and Sinkholes may mean that one setup is better than the other, but I lean towards the Urza lands instead anyway.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2005, 04:22:51 pm »

If Top went in, so would Kodama's Reach over probably Krosan Tusker.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2005, 11:20:19 am »

It seems like they'd just throw four damage in front of Crash and be done with it. Would Hungry Mist or Deadly Insect be better?
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