Origins results

[Hyperion]

I just got a call from Rich Shay a few minutes ago. I don't have much in the way of specifics but figured anything was better than nothing. If anyone else knows more, please post the relevant information here. There may have been more, but this is what I remember.

Joe Bushman def. Rich Shay in one of the T1 tournaments.
Rich Shay split in the finals of a $500 Legacy tournament.
Steve Menendian won the "big" T1 tournament, getting 2 opening round byes for Gencon in the process.

Rich played Slaver at all of the T1 tournaments. Steve played Gifts, as did Doug Linn and Kevin Cron on at least one occasion. I don't know what Joe was playing.

[Smmenen]

Bushman beat Rich playing GroGifts on Thursday.  Rich, Kevin, me, and one other player 4-way split the Friday night $500 prize.  It was like 3am and I told rich that it would be much better to just play him on Sat.  i said it was likely we'd play each other.  He agreed and so we split.  He said he'd see me in the finals on sat, which I hoped was true. I held up my end of the bargain.   On Sat, the gencon qualifier, Rich and I were in different brackets for the top 8 but Rich lost to a 4cc player in the semis. 

The top 8 was: Doug Linn playing Meandeck Gifts, Rich Shay playing Control Slaver, me playing Meandeck Gifts, Roland Chang playing Stax, Robert Vroman playing Uba Stax, the guy playing 4cc, Dan Powers (?) playing Meandeck Gifts, and I don't remember the other guy who made top 8. 

Kevin only played in the Friday event. 

[w00t3n4t0r]

I heard that Robert Vroman has won 2 out of the 3 t1 events that he has played in.  Although I really can't confirm this.  However, I heard the first tournament he was in he t8'd and then lost first round, and the other two he has played in he has won.  Although I could be wrong. Just trying to offer up what I heard from a friend of mine who spoke to Vroman.

[M.Solymossy]

I don't see HOW Vroman does well at anything.  bazaar and workshop are two different engines all together and the deck, while synergistic, is horribly flawed.

[Komatteru]

I heard that Robert Vroman has won 2 out of the 3 t1 events that he has played in.  Although I really can't confirm this.  However, I heard the first tournament he was in he t8'd and then lost first round, and the other two he has played in he has won.  Although I could be wrong. Just trying to offer up what I heard from a friend of mine who spoke to Vroman.

Vroman won the 8 pm event with a record of 4-0-1 and I took 2nd with 4-1 (playing Long, of course, after trying out WTF in the main saturday event and sucking hardcore with it); I never played Vroman in that tournament, but I did trade for his SAVAGE "Lord of the Jungle" Dodo Survival of the Fittest which I've wanted since the last SCG Chicago.  Dan Powers took 3rd with Meandeck Gifts (with Mystic Remora tech in the board, which kicked my ass in round 2 game 2).  There will be more about this in my Origins report, which I'll post when I get it done (which requires me to remember what the hell happened in all this tournaments, cause all the details are starting to blend together).  Right now, I'm pretty sleep deprived and feel like a Wasteland.

I don't know what happened on Sunday.  I had an ass early flight out.

[w00t3n4t0r]

Nova do you know anything about Uba Stax at all? If not I can't wait to see how you do at the Lotus tournament later this month...

[M.Solymossy]

Yes my team has tested Uba Stax and realized this:  Control slaver and WTF (the two decks i primarily play) both tear it apart.                                                           

If he doesn't have a first turn Uba Mask (and if i don't have a force of will) i just flat out win.

[w00t3n4t0r]

Wow, You have got to be kidding me. Trust me play CS or WTF against him during the Lotus tournament.  We will see if you tear him apart.

[M.Solymossy]

As far as i'm concerned... he got lucky by catching people on that uba mask + welder priority nonsense and then got torn apart by a good player in the top 8.

[w00t3n4t0r]

Haha.  That's why he won 2 out of 3  Vintage Tournaments there. And lost the other one coming in 5th? Whatever Nova show your skills at the Lotus tournament.

[vroman]

in the championship prelim tourney heres what happened to me:

rd 1- oponent leads w forest -> lanowar elf. anyway...

rd 2- UW fish.
game 1- I win the roll and get a savage draw that resolves turn 1 chalice for 0 and 1. this lets me do pretty much whatever I want, though I cant remember exactly how I won.
game 2- I resolve a turn 1 welder, which neutralizes his countermagic, letting me get a null rod on board to turn off both his vials. then a stack hits and rapes his board, and I draw a bazaar which lets me dump a titan, welded in to finish the game

rd 3- Riddler.
game 1- opponent muls to 5. I put him in welder/uba lock fairly early.
game 2- he doesnt do much, and I get a null rod, v-heretic, and stack, but then he drops hanas custody and h-recalls my board. while Im scrambling to recover, he starts swinging w jugs, which goes the distance.
game 3- I mulligan to FOUR, and keep [mox, sol ring, academy, heretic]. I hold back the academy until I get something that needs it and just play the artifact mana. riddler muls to 6 and plays a couple lands, then drops jugs again. I meanwhile have played uba, and draw a mtn turn 3. heretic wins it for me, blasting everything he plays, until I cast a fatty.

rd 4/5 ID

top8 rd 1- 4CC
game 1- broken draw that put out I think turn 1 chalice 0 and stack. he never develops a board and scoops early
game 2- he counters some stuff then plays an angel, luckily I immediately draw a maze ith, protected by crucible. then he tinkers up dsteel, so Im again facing 4/turn. I resolve a stack, but dont have a whole lot of permanents, so after some careful math, I eventually kill all his cards except dsteel, and leave myself w the crucible, and replay the maze, and am at low life. I have workshop + strip in the yard, and stack in hand, so if I can live 3 turns to get a soot counter, his board is completely gone and I win for sure. sadly he drew a waste on his last chance, and killed me.
game 3- a long drawn out affair that ended w him at 2 life, me w a solemn and a welder. he had nothing but 10 lands on board and no cards in hand, and on the turn before he takes lethal damage, he rips yawg will. I lose

In the other two tournaments I played in I came in 1st, going 4-0-1 and 4-0. I admit those werent the tightest metas, w basicaly me and aaron jarvis being the only good players w tier decks in either.

heres my list:

4 workshop
4 bazaar
4 waste
5 mountain
1 strip
1 academy
1 riftstone portal
5 mox
4 lotus/ring/crypt/vault
4 uba mask
4 chalice
4 smoky
3 crucible
3 null rod
1 trinisphere
4 welder
2 jens
2 duplicant
1 s-titan
1 karn
1 moxmonky
1 wheel fortune

side
4 lava dart
3 orb dreams
3 v-heretic
2 duplicant
2 mith
1 n-rod

the only things Im thinking of changing is to finaly get rid of the riftstone portal for a red fetch, bc as neato a bit of tech it is to get bazaars to tap for mana and a free discard, Id rather more reliably hit red mana. Also, if oath is on the decline, dream ball becomes much less necesary as a sideboard option. maybe REBs instead for all the drain decks.

as for other matchups:
-Ive played more games against CS then probably any other deck. after infi playtesting Ive discovered that my worst time is in game 1 if they lead w turn 1 welder, since I dont have much removal main. games 2 and 3, lava darts are king, and I basicaly only lose if they do something ridiculous like turn 1/2 tinker.
-WTF doesnt scare me at all. I play n-rod main that shuts off vial and jitte, chalice for 2 counters everything noteworthy, and stack wipes away whatevers left over. I definitely have a winning record against both decks.
turn 1 uba is nice, but not necesarily better than turn 1 "any card in the deck".

[Komatteru]

In the other two tournaments I played in I came in 1st, going 4-0-1 and 4-0. I admit those werent the tightest metas, w basicaly me and aaron jarvis being the only good players w tier decks in either.

Thanks for the acknowledgement. 

[The Atog Lord]

Man, Origins was a blast. It was awesome hanging out with all of you guys. I'm looking forward to doing it again at GenCon.

[vroman]

In the other two tournaments I played in I came in 1st, going 4-0-1 and 4-0. I admit those werent the tightest metas, w basicaly me and aaron jarvis being the only good players w tier decks in either.

Thanks for the acknowledgement. 

ah yes, correction: the saturday 8pm tournament was relatively decent w other meandeck guys in it, like our friend JD, but the sunday morning tourny was pathetic. I faced: rd 1 white weenie, rd 2, jarvis, rd 3 sligh, rd 4 enchantress.

[DameonHv]

I take it Jarvis scrubbed out in the sunday event as well?   

I was the lone Oath player at the saturday event for the byes at GenCon.  I was 2-0 going into round 3.  I beat sligh and then forced JDizzle to drop(shame on you for trying to win with creatures).  I lost to Steve and Rich and then faced stax with early smokestacks both games.  Then I was the judge for the 8PM event and got to watch Jarvis stupidly shuffle his permanents into his deck after his opponent resolved Twister.  Jarvis claimed his opponent cheated by shuffling his removed cards into his deck, when in fact Jarvis had unintentionally scooped and his opponent was just getting ready for game 2.  Way to be, Aaron.  Rich, Vroman, and Steve put up quite a showing for the weekend.  I believe Steve lost only 1 or 2 games in the two tournies he played in.  And those only came in the T8 of the second tourney.

[ghad999]

I dont know what i was thinking with that twister one. I would have won the game with 9-10 mana sources in play and the recoup/walk/tinker/will combo set up for the next turn since he had no cards in hand and i had no counters left in my hand since there was a massive counter war the turn before. He was playing a terrible 4cc deck with morphling, twincast, fastbond, glimmervoid, isochron scepter and im sure other subpar cards in his main.

[DameonHv]

Also from Origins, has everyone seen the cool foil gemstone mines on ebay yet?

[JACO]

I don't see HOW Vroman does well at anything.  bazaar and workshop are two different engines all together and the deck, while synergistic, is horribly flawed.

Yes my team has tested Uba Stax and realized this:  Control slaver and WTF (the two decks i primarily play) both tear it apart.                                                           

If he doesn't have a first turn Uba Mask (and if i don't have a force of will) i just flat out win.

As far as i'm concerned... he got lucky by catching people on that uba mask + welder priority nonsense and then got torn apart by a good player in the top 8.

Robert Vroman Wins Power 9 #9!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would now be appropriate to say you got 0wned.

[Dozer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it would now be appropriate to say you got 0wned.

Quoted for truthery.


Steve, what was the list you won with -- did you go with the Cunning Wish as you hinted at (somewhere)? I'm especially curious about the sideboard. Are the decklists of the different Origins tournaments posted somewhere, or did I just not see them?

Dozer