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Sean Ryan
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« on: July 18, 2005, 01:40:41 am »

Mods, please move this to the Tournamant Results Forum.


Tournament Results

Winner: Randy Buehler!!!

 Top 8:
1. Rob Leidle (Gifts Control) def.   8. Luke Chen
4. Randy Buehler (Gifts Control) def.   5. Ricky Boyes (Salvagers Oath)
2. Ben Wilinofsky (Stax) def.   7. Seb Denno (Mono Blue Control)
6. Mike Thompson (Salvagers Oath) def.   3. Kurt Stockbruger (UW Fish)


Top 4:
Mike Thompson def. Ben Wilinofsky
Randy Buehler def. Rob Leidle (the match took somewhere around an hour and a half or so)

Finals:
Randy Buehler (prize = Beta Mox Pearl) def. Mike Thompson (prize = Mana Drain)

Top 8 lists:

1st
Randy Buehler
Meandeck Gifts (modified)

1 Recoup
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
2 Impulse
2 Merchant Scroll
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Misdirection
4 Mana Drain
1 Burning Wish
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rebuild
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Time Walk
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Lotus Petal
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Snow-Covered Island

Sideboard:
3 Duress
2 Stifle
2 Pyroclasm
1 Pithing Needle
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Shattering Pulse
1 Old Man of the Sea


2nd
Mike Thompson
Salvagers Oath

4 Brainstorm
3 Impulse
2 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Oath of Druids
2 Auriok Salvagers
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Phyrexian Furnace
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Regrowth
1 Cunning Wish
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tropical Island
2 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
2 City of Brass
4 Flooded Strand
4 Forbidden Orchard

Sideboard:
1 Recoup
1 Tinker
1 Darksteel Colossus
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Duress
1 Balance
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Disenchant
1 Misdirection
1 Stifle
1 Hurkyl's Recall


3rd-4th
Rob Leidle
Meandeck Gifts

5 Island
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
2 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Lotus Petal
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Brainstorm
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Gifts Ungiven
3 Misdirection
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Tinker
1 Time Walk
1 Recoup
1 Burning Wish
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Rebuild
1 Echoing Truth
1 Demonic Tutor

Sideboard:
3 Pithing Needle
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Rebuild
2 Pyroclasm
2 Old Man of the Sea
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Mind Twist
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All


Ben Wilinofsky
5-color Stax

4 Smokestack
4 Sphere of Resistance
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Triskelion
1 Sundering Titan
1 Karn, Silver Golem
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Balance
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Mind Twist
1 Tinker
1 Crop Rotation
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
4 Gemstone Mine
2 City of Brass
2 Glimmervoid
4 Mishra's Workshop
1 Time Walk
1 Lotus Petal
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Trinisphere
1 Memory Jar

Sideboard:
2 In the Eye of Chaos
2 Arcane Laboratory
1 Jester's Cap
2 Ray of Revelation
1 Platinum Angel
2 Ground Seal
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Duplicant
2 Red Elemental Blast


5th - 8th
Luke Chen
Goblins

4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Recruiter
3 Goblin Ringleader
3 Mogg Fanatic
3 Goblin Warchief
2 Goblin Vandal
4 Duress
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Wooded Foothills
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus*
4 Badlands
5 Mountain
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pyroblast
1 Gempalm Incinerator

Sideboard:
3 Tormod's Crypt
4 Mogg Salvage
3 Blood Moon
3 Null Rod
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast


Sebastian Denno
Mono Blue Control

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Leak
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Platinum Angel
3 Back to Basics
1 Tinker
3 Chalice of the Void
3 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
4 Wasteland
1 Sol Ring
1 Strip Mine
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Ophidian
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Mystical Tutor
10 Island
2 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
2 Powder Keg

Sideboard:
2 Waterfront Bouncer
1 Back to Basics
4 Arcance Laboratory
4 Energy Flux
1 Chalice of the Void
3 Vedalken Shackles


Kurt Stockbrogger
U/w Fish

4 Force of Will
4 Aether Vial
4 Meddling Mage
4 Rootwater Thief
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
3 Waterfront Bouncer
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Ninja of the Deep Hours
2 Misdirection
4 Standstill
3 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Tundra
1 Strip Mine

Sideboard:
1 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Seal of Cleansing
2 Kira, Great Glass Spinner
3 Kami of Ancient Law
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Swords to Plowshares


Ricky Boyes
Salvagers Oath

4 Forbidden Orchard
2 City of Brass
4 Flooded Strand
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Black Lotus
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Oath of Druids
4 Brainstorm
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
2 Auriok Salvagers
2 Phrexian Furnace
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Balance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Intuition
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Engineered Explosives
4 Mana Drain
1 Seal of Cleansing
4 Force of Will
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Conjurer's Bauble

Sideboard:
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Pristine Angel
1 Ascendant Evincar
1 Stifle
1 Misdirection
1 Divert
1 Phryexian Furnace
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Rushing River
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Mind Twist
1 Disenchant
2 Duress
 
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2005, 02:42:51 am »

Modified?  He changed 3 maindeck cards.... - 2 Scrolls + 2 Impulse and -1 misd for a Vamp...

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 10:48:21 am »

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  Modified?  He changed 3 maindeck cards.... - 2 Scrolls + 2 Impulse and -1 misd for a Vamp...   

I thought that meant he modified the deck?  No one said he made it better, just changed it.  "Modified" could probably describe what he did pretty accurately.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2005, 12:25:53 pm »

Modified?  He changed 3 maindeck cards.... - 2 Scrolls + 2 Impulse and -1 misd for a Vamp...

You should take it as a complement that they consider your deck "modified" by the change of only 3 cards. That shows that your list is considered close to optimal, and that people havent made changes (or significant ones) because of that. Oh, and people make worse versions of decks all the time and still do well... Doesnt mean there optimal.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2005, 02:47:23 pm »

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  Modified?  He changed 3 maindeck cards.... - 2 Scrolls + 2 Impulse and -1 misd for a Vamp...   

I thought that meant he modified the deck?  No one said he made it better, just changed it.  "Modified" could probably describe what he did pretty accurately.

My point is that if you are going to list a deck there is probably no reason to use the word modified in the deckname if it is only a few cards difference. 

For example, let's say I cut the maindeck echoing truth for Rushing River and cut a Merchant Scroll for Vampiric Tutor and I placed in a tournament.  Should I report my deck as Meandeck Gifts or Meandeck Gifts modified?  You see my point now.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2005, 02:50:25 pm »

Is it really worth the discussion 1 way or the other? It is technically modified. But the modifications are so minute that the deck functions the same.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2005, 02:54:10 pm »

No, you are right.

Congratulations to Randy and all the players who made top 8.

I'd love to hear reports if anyone has anything to say.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2005, 04:43:36 pm »

The tournament was pretty cool. Saw some interesting decks being played by the people up north with Orb of Dreams and Sphere of Resistance. However, when I played against it (Gifts Control) I drew a lot of land and was able to cast a rebuild and then go off.

I was the 1st seed going into the top8. I won all of my matches (except 1) with gifts by tendrilsing out for the win. Didn't get any first turn tinkers all day Sad
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2005, 04:44:05 pm »

BTW, orb of dreams is a HOUSE against fetchlands.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2005, 04:45:33 pm »

I do think adding an impulse to gifts migth be a good call however. It gives you another blue card to put in an early gifts pile when you are in one of those situations where the "standard" gifts won't let you win next turn.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2005, 10:45:56 pm »

It sounds like you have a growing metagame out there.  Are you getting more people each time?  Having the opportunity to play the head of magic, basically, has to be a huge draw. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2005, 12:57:10 am »

We have a pretty consistant base of about 35-40 players who show up to almost all the events and there are always about 5-10 "randoms". Randy doesn't come to all the events but he has come to many of them lately.

We've been having quite a few mox/time walk tournaments so it's been pretty fun. Also, there are a LOT of real cards out here since this is where magic started
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2005, 01:02:01 am »

Congrats Randy!!!

My home-boy Gabe Osso went to that and went 1-3 drop....=(
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2005, 01:12:38 am »

We have a pretty consistant base of about 35-40 players who show up to almost all the events and there are always about 5-10 "randoms". Randy doesn't come to all the events but he has come to many of them lately.

We've been having quite a few mox/time walk tournaments so it's been pretty fun. Also, there are a LOT of real cards out here since this is where magic started

What are you guys doing to grow your metagame?
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2005, 02:10:26 am »

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  Modified?  He changed 3 maindeck cards.... - 2 Scrolls + 2 Impulse and -1 misd for a Vamp...   

I thought that meant he modified the deck?  No one said he made it better, just changed it.  "Modified" could probably describe what he did pretty accurately.

My point is that if you are going to list a deck there is probably no reason to use the word modified in the deckname if it is only a few cards difference. 

For example, let's say I cut the maindeck echoing truth for Rushing River and cut a Merchant Scroll for Vampiric Tutor and I placed in a tournament.  Should I report my deck as Meandeck Gifts or Meandeck Gifts modified?  You see my point now.

From my understanding, 4x Merchant Scroll and 3-4x Misdirection were the big thing that mde Meandeck Gifts so different and distinct from the other builds.  I think modifying the card count on those two cards means more than any other change in the deck.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2005, 03:06:31 am »

The NW Vintage scene is really starting to emerge and has a lot of potential.  We are in the middle of a Vintage tournament series run in conjunction with DCI events with more events scheduled for the near future at multiple venues all with Power prizes.  Yet, the attendance hasn't been able to get above 50, usually lower.  I think I can speak for everyone in our community when saying that we would like to hear whatever suggesstions you have for promoting Vintage and developing a community.

 One of the recent features to our tournaments is that Collectors Edition cards are allowed with appropriate sleeves.  Some events count them as proxies some do not.  As the price of power continues to climb, this is one of the best ways to overcome the largest hurrdle to developing a Vintage community: cost.  Also are proxy limits have never been lower than 10l.  It may be that all we need is time and a little better organization between TOs but I would like to see things grow faster.

Oh yeah, about Randy Buehler...its great to see him at the events but, forget about winning.  A few of us have a theory that he designed Giftz partly so he could abuse it in Vintage.  Probaly not true but, you should have seen him play that deck.

Anyway, love to hear any suggestions you may have.

Sean   

   
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2005, 04:08:07 am »

It sounds like you have a growing metagame out there.  Are you getting more people each time?  Having the opportunity to play the head of magic, basically, has to be a huge draw. 

I would say that a lot of the people don't even recognize randy, and his being there does nothing for attendance negative or positive.  :/  When randy shows up...he wins..basically end of story.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2005, 09:52:14 pm »

It sounds like you have a growing metagame out there.  Are you getting more people each time?  Having the opportunity to play the head of magic, basically, has to be a huge draw. 

I would say that a lot of the people don't even recognize randy, and his being there does nothing for attendance negative or positive.  :/  When randy shows up...he wins..basically end of story.

I have to disagree. I found playing Randy, both as the head of R&D and as a former Pro Tour Champion, pretty damn cool. Of course, it didn't hurt that I won  Wink, but still...the man is a very important figure in the game, besides being an excellent opponent both in terms of playskill and manners. It would be nice if he would goldfish his deck a few times the night before instead of just throwing it together the morning of, since teaching himself to play the deck in the middle of the match tends to result in a lot of slow thinking, but hey, the man wins, he's got no reason to change anything.

Mike Turian and Nate Heiss also schleped out to this one. The barn in me couldn't help but be a little impressed to see some high profile (and, in the case of Mike and Randy, important  Razz) "stars" of the Magic world at the tables, and I expect there's a little bit of that in all of us. Admit it; we all perked up a bit and took notice of SCG's "Shooting Stars" tournament.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2005, 05:35:22 pm »

i'm telling you, the majority wouldn't know randy buehler if he beat them with his magic stick.
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