~Whcih deck to play~ T1 power, 10-proxie

[Disburden]

I don't want to highjack this thread and talk about the intracacies of playing dragon but there are a lot of ways that you can cast animate dead, target worldgorger dragon and not win the game.

In such a situation, is it ever the right play to cast the animate dead?

What he is saying is when you cast Animate Dead on the Dragon and start the loop there are many ways to screw it up due to play mistakes. This will cause you to not be able to stop the loop which leads you to have to accept a draw with an opponent. Then there's the worse loop error where you have to pass priority and your opponent kills you all because you messed up the loop pattern.

[keratinx]

I have an Oath list that got me top4 in a 10 proxy tourny. I'll explain the card choices later. Here's the list:

Mana (23)

4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Polluted Delta (2 Strand/2 Delta)
5 Island (4 Island/1 Tolarian Academy)
1 Tropical Island
1 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring

Combo (8)

4 Oath of Druids
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Spirit of the Night
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Gaea's Blessing

Counter Base (14)

4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Mana Leak
2 Misdirection

Draw/Search (16)

4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
3 Intuition
2 Impulse
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker

-  I found Tinker/Colossus very good as it is a random win condition
-  Mana Crypt is in there for the burst of acceleration OR for Tinker/Colossus
- Tolarian Academy is currently being tested since this deck list plays with 7 mana accelerants.
-  2 Waste effects is needed since 3 is too much

[FallenOmnipotent]

Then there's the worse loop error where you have to pass priority and your opponent kills you all because you messed up the loop pattern.

As in disenchant effects and StPs?

[Purple Hat]

see comment about not wanting to hijack this thread. 

if you want to talk about dragon send me a PM or start a thread about dragon.  this is a thread about what deck to play in a stax heavy meta.  in that meta I'd play 5 color dragon because it has a good game one against stax and forbidden orchard on your side of the table causes problems for oath.  unfortunately dragon is a combo deck that is extremely consistent about accomplishing it's combo (animate dead on dragon) but with which it is possible to have disasterous consequences when you make a mistake.  This makes it difficult for people who do not have much experience with the deck to actually win tournaments with it until they learn the ins and outs of the deck.

Hale

[That0neguy]

Personally Im going to play Uba Stacks at the next dreamers.  Although ive been heavily considering dragon as well since combo is easily my favorite archtype.

Another thing that one of my freinds has done is add 4 maindeck goblin vandal to foodchain which he says vastly improves the match up.

BTW would anyone else from dreamers want to try to get jason to restart running the friday night magic tournements again?  He stopped them when It was just me and 3 other guys showing up and noone else.  If your interested just show up on friday.  Im pretty sure that 3 of us that ussually show up can't go tonight but I think we will have a couple people next friday.

[FallenOmnipotent]

What do you guys think about this list?  it's from ABS:
Win: 8
4 Oath of Druids
1 Tinker
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Ancient Hydra/Akroma (If you expect any welders, go with Hydra)
1 Gaea's Blessing

Land:20
4 Forbidden Orchard
3 City of Brass
2 Island
1 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
4 Polluted Delta
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine

Protection: 15
4 Duress
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Force of Will
R Balance
2 Swords to Plowshares

Get it NOW:13
4 Brainstorm
3 Impulse
2 Thirst for Knowledge
R Demonic Tutor
R Mystical Tutor
R Vampiric Tutor
R Enlightened Tutor

Accel:4
R Mox Sapphire
R Mox Emerald
R Mox Jet
R Mana Crypt

SB:
1 Woodripper
1 Pristine Angel
3 Choke (deceptively amazing)
3 Spawning Pit
2 Echoing Truth
1 Pyroclasm
4 other slots

I like the SB, but I question it's control abilities with the dramatic lessening of the reactive counterspells, as opposed to, the pro-active chalices.

[Darkmage]

Strip Mine and Tinker are restricted.  I know it's not all that important, but it doesn't make sense to use the "R"s half the time.

[FallenOmnipotent]

Srry? I just copyed + pasted the list from the ABS fourms...here's the link if you guys want it:

http://s10.invisionfree.com/Team_ABS/index.php?showtopic=1256&st=30