Different Dredge and Bazaar question

[Dante]

I had a question, to see if this is correct:

You have a dredge card (say Darkblast) in your graveyard.

Dredge text

Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly three cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)

So you tap the Bazaar, but instead of drawing two, you replace one of those draws with the dredge.  So you:

- Dredge - remove 3 cards from top of library into graveyard, return Darkblast to hand
- draw 1 card
(or potentially draw 1 card first, then do the dredge depending which card draw you replace, right??)

then, when all that's done
- discard 3 cards (including the Darkblast if you so choose)

my main questions are:

1. You can choose to replace either the first OR second card drawn and you choose whether you draw 1 then mill or mill then draw 1.

2. Bring the Darkblast to hand as part of the draw card replacement, then you can discard it with the "discard 3" part of the Bazaar effect.

thanks...

[Jacob Orlove]

When Bazaar says, "Draw 2 cards" that's shorthand for "Draw a card. Draw a card." You can replace either draw with Darkblast, which would immediately mill you for 3 and return to your hand (similar to how dredging a Divining Top draw leaves you with Top on top of your library). So yes to both your questions.

[Nibble]

Since the cards are drawn one at a time, and Dredge is a replacement effect that you choose to use at the exact moment you would draw a card, is it possible to draw the first card from Bazaar normally, then choose whether or not to Dredge for the second draw knowing what you drew?

[Jacob Orlove]

Yes.

[vartemis]

This is interesting, a judge at my local shop had told me when i was playing a proxied version of dragon that I couldnt "target" the second draw due to bazaar's "may not do anything while this is happening" clause.  I could tap the bazaar and stack the two draws, then respond with the dredge, replacing the first draw, but i couldnt draw a card, then decide to dredge and target the second draw because the effect is already taking place.  I thought it should be fine to replace the second draw, as long as I announced it before I drew anything.

Am I correct in that you would have to announce that you are dredging before you start to draw anything from the bazaar?  You can't just draw one card, like what you see and then say you are dredging instead of the second one, right?  One you start to draw, your spell or ability is already resolved and cant be changed.

j

[Jacob Orlove]

Dredge isn't a triggered ability.

Also, the current wording on bazaar is as follows:

Bazaar of Baghdad
Land   
T: Draw two cards, then discard three cards. 

[Binary]

This is interesting, a judge at my local shop had told me when i was playing a proxied version of dragon that I couldnt "target" the second draw due to bazaar's "may not do anything while this is happening" clause.  I could tap the bazaar and stack the two draws, then respond with the dredge, replacing the first draw, but i couldnt draw a card, then decide to dredge and target the second draw because the effect is already taking place.  I thought it should be fine to replace the second draw, as long as I announced it before I drew anything.

Am I correct in that you would have to announce that you are dredging before you start to draw anything from the bazaar?  You can't just draw one card, like what you see and then say you are dredging instead of the second one, right?  One you start to draw, your spell or ability is already resolved and cant be changed.

j

Your judge was incorrect. If you are performing the same action multiple times, and something is creating an optional replacement effect (such as Dredge), you're NOT obligated to use that optional replacement effect on the first instance of the action.

You can indeed draw one card from the Bazaar and then make the decision about whether to replace the second draw with Dredge. This is because Dredge is not a triggered ability, but rather a static ability that creates a replacement effect.