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« on: November 30, 2005, 01:37:58 am »

Recently singers of big name musical groups have decided for whatever reasons to start a side project.  The best known is probably Maynard from Tool starting A Perfect Circle.  I really like this trend and wanted to know if anyone has a favorite side-project band.  I also would like to hear thoughts on the idea of side projects.  Do you think the singers are just money hungry?  Or is the artist just expressing a side of him/her self that would not be in the style of the original group?

For my part in this my favorite singer is Mike Patton.  He has multiple bands he has been in or is currently in.  The most notable being Faith No More with more recent groups including among others, Tomahawk and Fantomas.  Each band he is in is radically different than the others.  Unlike other singers who start side groups none of his bands sound like eachother, which is why I have trouble picking one band as my favorite.

Well I'd love to hear thoughts on this subject from you music-loving TMDers.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 01:53:12 am »

I saw Tomahawk open for Tool, they were terrible.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 01:54:48 am »

I like Foo Fighters and Megadeth, but I don't know if those really count as "side-projects."
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 02:00:17 am »

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I saw Tomahawk open for Tool, they were terrible.

The group has been known to play off key just to piss an audience off.  Also the venue may have had bad sound equipment.  Tomahawk is a band I really like but you have to be open to different music to appreciate them.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 02:09:13 am »

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The group has been known to play off key just to piss an audience off.  Also the venue may have had bad sound equipment.  Tomahawk is a band I really like but you have to be open to different music to appreciate them.


I can confirm this. Mike Patton really has a habit of trying to make people hate him for some reason. There was this scam in a Mr. Bungle CD to send in $2 for lyrics to some song with a made up language. To the best of my knowledge, Mike never sent them out.


Anyway, the side project trend isn't really that new. I think we're finally seeing some good ones.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 04:58:56 am »

Jack 'Choke' Kelly is the lead singer for my favorite all-time band, a Boston hardcore formation known as 'Slapshot'. His sideproject (same singer, same drummer) is called 'Stars And Stripes' has such song titles as 'Shaved For Battle', 'American Oi', and 'Proud, Strong and Free'. Suffice to say, I like Slaphot better than Stars And Stripes o.O

This is by no means a new trend, by the way. Stars & Stripes have existed for ages, and I've also always likes Temple Of The Dog, Chris Cornell's Soundgarder / Pearl Jam side project from '91. Though I realise a lot of people on these boards were like two years old then Smile

Also, in the ninetees, I used to be a great fan of The Breeders, who were basically Throwing Muses and The Pixies.

My girlfriend is rather taken with Stonesour, which is a Slipknot sideproject, apparently.

 
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 08:07:24 am »

While forming a side-project may not be "new" it seems to be happening more and more in the music world recently.  I'm a huge fan of A Perfect Circle as well.  They sound similar to Tool but with a more varied range of music styles.  I like Stonesour as well but the latest Slipknot album could've been a Stonesour cd.  If a singer or whoever does a side project I believe he should try to keep in different than his orginal group.

Rap groups even like to form alternate groups to express more than the normal hip-hop influences.  N.E.R.D. is a group fronted by hip hop producer and rapper Pharrell.  The group has rock influences that sound much different than Pharrell's other music.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 12:20:30 pm »

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The group has been known to play off key just to piss an audience off.  Also the venue may have had bad sound equipment.  Tomahawk is a band I really like but you have to be open to different music to appreciate them.
No, the venue was fine. Their songs just sucked out loud, although he did make a Charles Whitman joke which was funny.

Also, the "open to different music" argument is just bullshit that everyone uses to try and explain why people don't like the bands they like. I enjoy many different kinds of music, and I open-mindedly gave Tomahawk their fair shot, and they did not pass my personal taste test. Why is that a problem?


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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 12:36:10 pm »

I saw Tomahawk open for Tool, they were terrible.

I heard that people actually left the Syracuse, NY Tomahawk/Tool show because of Patton harrasing Tool fans, because, they were boo'ing Tomahawk.

Which is rightfully deserverd, Mr_Rogers has played Tomahawk for me before... aweful. Smile
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 12:46:24 pm »

I saw Tomahawk open for Tool, they were terrible.

I heard that people actually left the Syracuse, NY Tomahawk/Tool show because of Patton harrasing Tool fans, because, they were boo'ing Tomahawk.

Which is rightfully deserverd, Mr_Rogers has played Tomahawk for me before... aweful. Smile

Tomahawk also threatened to keep playing till everyone in the audience walked out at that show Wink.  On a side the Gorilaz/blur thing is very cool, I totally agree with Matt there.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2005, 02:16:21 pm »

According to Roger Waters circa 1990, Pink Floyd was the side project of Pink Floyd.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 02:33:58 pm »

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2005, 04:31:52 pm »

The first Queens of the Stone Age album, Probot were pretty good, although Grohl is a drummer first and foremost...
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2005, 05:36:42 pm »

For me:
Blind Guardian/Demons and Wizards with Hansi Kursch
At the Gates/Nightrage with Thomas Lindberg
Persuader/Savage Circus with Jens Karlsson
Cannibal Corpse/Paths of Possession with George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher

Mostly metal for me. I'm sure there are others I just don't think about right now.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2005, 08:57:05 pm »

Mike Patton has also done a solo album featuring operatic like songs in Italian. Its pretty cool as i once heard it at a local record store(yea actual records).
he is the coolest guy ever, and maybe the one of the strangest.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2005, 09:17:19 pm »

Don't forget Mike's "Ford Mustang" off Great Jewish Music. Fucking WIERD.
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2005, 09:18:31 pm »

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I agree with that 100%.  He also does the best covers of anyone I've ever heard.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2005, 11:38:30 pm »

I kinda like Kyle Gass from Tenacious D's side project, Trainwreck.  They're kind of like a new interpretation of southern rock like C,S,&N or Creedence Clearwater Revival.  Check them out if you haven't heard any of their stuff.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2005, 11:43:59 pm »

Blind Guardian/Demons & Wizards is nice, but I think Children of Bodom/Sinergy is nice too.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2005, 11:44:16 pm »

Guardian's list is awesome.


Arjen Anthony Lucassen does a bunch of projects with vocalists from all kinds of different bands.  Probably his most well known group is Ayreon, but he has several others.  On the latest Ayreon album "The Human Equation" you have the following singers:

James Labrie from Dream Theater
Devin Townsend from Strapping Young Lad, The Devin Townsend Band, and several others
Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth
Devon Graves from Dead Soul Tribe

and a bunch more.  One girl who sang on the album Marcella Bovio also sings for Arjen's newest project - Stream of Passion.


Anyway, Arjen is about the greatest musical genius alive right now that no one knows about.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2005, 08:53:40 am »

speaking of dream theater...
there is a band called liquid tension experiment
conisting of
mike portnoy, john petrucci, jordan rudess... and tony levin who was big in prog rock in the 70's. im not sure but possibly king crimson.
awesome band and since there is no singer only music, no distractions.
i was reading in metal edge and mike portnoy stated he currently does 4 side projects, and thus has no free time.
i have a feeling we could go on forever, thinking of someone new.
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 11:09:43 am »

I just hear that Maynard of Tool and Trent Reznor of NIN are forming a side project together.  I hope this is true, that would be amazing to hear.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2005, 03:52:28 pm »

Alexi Lahio (is that how its spelled?) is in something other than COB?
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2005, 04:37:13 pm »

I appologize in advance for my over the top anger/arrogance.  Everyone takes their music so seriously, I feel I must try and one up them.  It is entirely in jest.  I feel that is the only way to talk about music.  If you don't like my music, it's cause you don't get it.....cause you're retarded. 

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I just hear that Maynard of Tool and Trent Reznor of NIN are forming a side project together.  I hope this is true, that would be amazing to hear.

I read that they felt the project was not greater than the sum of it's parts, and not really worth releasing.  Neither seem they type to release something they can't be proud of. 

And the only acceptable answer to the question is

GWAR/X-COPS

http://xcops-lyrics.wonderlyrics.com/

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2005, 04:42:05 pm »

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And the only acceptable answer to the question is

GWAR/X-COPS

Is there a site where I can sample there songs?  I've read some od the lyrics and they seem great.  The only acceptable answer to my question is anything Mike Patton.  He a musical god.

http://www.lyricsdir.com/search/?q=tomahawk
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2005, 05:05:47 pm »

John Zorn projects:
Masada
Painkiller
Naked City
Dekoboko Hajime (sort of)
and various colloborations with about a million different people, including Mike Patton.  I know the question asked for singers, but lyrics are for suckers.
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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2005, 05:19:23 pm »

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I know the question asked for singers, but lyrics are for suckers.

Well really any alternate side projects people are working on.  Most of the time it just happens to be singers who start these side projects.
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2005, 07:02:11 pm »

I saw Tomahawk open for Tool, they were terrible.

I saw Fantomas open for Tool, they were terrible.
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2005, 07:15:50 pm »

to mr. rogers:
i have a bunch of bungle bootlegs that this guy got in DC back in the 80's and early 90's before there self title in 91.
if interested let me know.
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2005, 07:21:36 pm »

Heavy metal is a network of sorts. Every band from a certain has a connection other bands somehow.

For example:

Opeth-Bloodbath-Nightingale-Diabolical Masquerade-Katatonia-October Tide-Edge of Sanity-Pan Thy Monium

All bands are linked through various members played in each others bands at some point.
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