[Deck Discussion] Meandeck Ichorid

[Wudil]

Just for information from a Staxless Stax player.

I've been playing against an Ichorid post TS yesterday with my Staxless Stax and without Ghostly Prison and Propaganda (in SB against Ichorid and Fishes + random) added to Welder + Triskel, I wouldn't have won after side (T-Crypts in SB also helped a lot of course).
I've only won some of my preside games with the help of Triskel (Duplicant could also help here) + Welder most of the time and Mox Monkey of course helped to eat opponent's CotV.

I always play CotV for 2 against Ichorid to prevent it to play his Null Rods, Ancient Grudge and his own CotV for 1 since I also play 2 Swords to Plowshare after side.
I also run 2 R&R post side to fight against CotV, Needle and/or Null Rods so it does help a lot here.

He could resolve one of his Dread Return which helped him a lot (putting a 6/6 Troll and if I hadn't played CotV @ 0 but again, Propaganda helped me a lot here.

I was playing Eon Hub some time ago and tested Sharpshooter but didn't find them enough multi-purpose so I choosed not to play them even if they were gold in this matchup. CotV for 1 is needed with Sharpshooter to shut down Needles and Darkblasts of course and didn't help me too (since I play StP, Welders, Mox Monkey and so on...).

[UR]

Yes, Sharpshooter is a JUGE problem. That is the reason I'm not playing Ichorid anymore. My match against Goblins is just soooo bad (if they know how to play) and right now I'm just seeing too many unpowered decks and those are usually Goblins.

[yespuhyren]

I dunno I've seen a lot of people Dredge Return a Sutured Ghoul and smack for like 30 with haste. 

[meadbert]

You can't dredge Return a Ghoul if Sharpshooter kills your creatures during your upkeep.  That being said, since Ichorid can now regularly gold fish by turn 3 I don't think that a 3 cc creature with summoning sickness is fast enough.

[zulander]

Has anyone tested standstill in the deck?  And would berserk classify as more of an "I win more" card, or an actual threat?

[UR]

And would berserk classify as more of an "I win more" card, or an actual threat?

Only if you are going for the Dread Return trick. Otherwise Giant Growthing an Ichorid would be better.

[meadbert]

The trouble with Standstill is the 2 CC.  Also any deck without counters shoudl not run Standstill.  If you are playing combo they will wait till they have the nuts and go off.  It won't matter what you draw.

Regarding Berserk ...  why?  Sutured Ghoul already has Trample and is already pretty big?  I suppose for Grave-Troll it would be nice but I think Berserk would be better as another card.