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« on: May 28, 2006, 01:23:36 pm »

We had our first proxy tournament in Ghent today. We played 4 rounds of swiss, and then T8.

Results after Swiss:

1) Mitchell Talpe
2) Ilja Berukof
3) Gwen De Schamphelaere
4) Bjorn Lefevere (Bob the Builder)
5) Cederic Moulin
6) Camstra Henderyckx
7) Stijn De Clercq
8) Wouter Dhondt (Eddie)

I was playing my gifts build. I dropped after swiss because playing / judging / DCI reporting during T8 wouldn't be very handy. Paul Claes at place 9 took my spot.

T8:

Paul (GroATog) wins from  Mitchell (Oath)
Stijn (Tindiana MUD) wins from Ilja (CS)
Gwen (CCBS) wins from Camstra (WTF)
Bjorn (CS) wins from Cedric (Uba stax)

T4:

Stijn wins from Paul
Bjorn wins from Gwen

T2:

Bjorn wins from Stijn

Decklists:

(p) indicates proxy

1) Bjorn Lefevere  - CS

1 Black Lotus (p)
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mana Crypt

2 Flooded Strand
1 Seat of the Synod
1 Wasteland
3 Island
3 Volcanic Island
1 Strip Mine
2 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Tolarian Academy

1 Time Walk
4 Thirst For Knowledge
1 Mystical Tutor
3 Mana Drain
1 Intuition
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
1 Tinker
1 Ancestral Recall

3 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Duplicant
1 Triskelion
1 Darksteel Colossus

1 Mindslaver
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Tormod’s Crypt

1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth’s Will

Sideboard:

1 Jester’s Cap
2 Stifle
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Tormod’s Crypt
2 Annul
1 Rushing River
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Platinum Angel
1 Barbarian Ring
1 Darkblast
1 Fire/Ice

2) Stijn De Clerq - Tindiana Mud

1 Strip Mine
4 Mishra's Workshop
3 Ancient Tomb
3 City of traitors
4 Wasteland
1 Tolarian Academy

3 Karn, Silver Golem
4 Metalworker
4 Juggernaut

1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring

4 Tangle Wire
4 Chalice of the void
4 Sphere of resistance
3 Smokestack
1 Trinisphere
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Memory Jar
3 Bottled Cloister
2 Jester's Cap

Sideboard:

1 Crucible of Worlds
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Jester's Cap
2 Ensnaring Bridge
3 Damping Matrix
2 Triskelion
2 Duplicant

3) Gwen De Schamphelaere - CCBS (Control Control Broken Slaver)

4 Force of Will
4 Mana drain
4 Brainstorm
4 Accumulated Knowledge
1 Intuition
1 Thirst for knowledge
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant SCroll
1 Misdirection
1 Fire/Ice
1 Echoing Truth
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Tinker
2 Mindslaver

2 Goblin Welder
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Sundering Titan
1 Darksteel Colossus

3 Flooded strand
2 Polluted Delta
2 Island
3 Volcanic Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Seat of the synod
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault

Sideboard:

1 Annul
2 Jester's Cap
3 Red elemental blast
2 old man of the sea
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Pithing Needle
1 Duplicant
1 Triskelion
1 Lava Dart
1 Viashino Heretic

4) Paul Claes - GroATog

1 Black Lotus (P)
1 Mox Sapphire (P)
1 Mox Ruby (P)
1 Mox Emerald (P)
1 Mox Pearl (P)
1 Mox Jet (P)
1 Mana Crypt (P)
3 Island
3 Flooded strand
1 Library of Alexandria
2 Polluted Delta
1 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
2 Breeding Pool

2 Psychatog
4 Quirion Dryad

1 Ancestral Recall (P)
4 Brainstorm
2 Cunning Wish
1 Darkblast
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
2 Gifts Ungiven
1 Fush
3 Mana Drain (2 P)
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
3 Duress
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Time Walk (P)
1 Yawgmoth's Will

Sideboard:

2 Pithing needle
1 Gifts ungiven
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Smother
2 Oxidize
1 Duress
1 Diabolic Edict
2 Stifle
2 Naturalize
1 Mana Drain (P)
1 Echoing Truth

5) Mitchell Talpe - Oath

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
2 Polluted Delta
2 City of Brass
2 Flooded Strand
1 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
2 Island
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine

1 Razia, Boros archangel
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath

1 Mystical Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
3 Null Rod
1 Crop Rotation
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
3 Duress
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Impulse
4 Mana Leak
4 Oath of Druids

Sideboard:

4 Oxidize
1 Tinker
1 Darksteel Colossus
2 Triskelion
1 Duress
4 Chalice of the void
1 Rushing River
1 Darkblast

6) Berukof Ilja - CS

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Tinker
2 Thirst for knowledge
4 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Pentavus
1 Duplicant
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mindslaver
1 Triskelion

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
4 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded strand
1 Strip Mind
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Forbidden Orchard
1 Seat of the Synod
2 Wasteland

Sideboard:

4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Jester's Cap
1 Viashino Heretic
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Arcane Laboratory
2 Darkblast
2 Gilded Drake

7) Cedric Moulin - Uba Stax (had some proxies, but not indicated what)

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
5 Mountain
2 Barbarian Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault

4 Goblin Welder
1 Karn, Silver golem
1 Trinisphere
4 Smokestack
4 Tangle Wire
3 Uba Mask
3 Jester's Cap
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Chalice of the void

Sideboard:

3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Granite Shard
4 Defense Grid
3 Gorilla Shaman
1 Chalice of the void
1 Jester's Cap
1 Masticore

8) Camstra Henderyckx - WTF

4 Aether Vial
1 Black Lotus (p)
4 Chalice of the void
1 Mox emerald (p)
1 Mox Sapphire (p)
2 Umezawa's Jitte

1 Ancestral Recall (p)
4 Cloud of Faeries
4 Force of Will
3 Ninja of the Deep Hours
3 Standstill
3 Stifle
1 Time Walk (p)

4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Wild Mongrel

4 Flooded strand
2 Island
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
4 Tropical Island
4 Wasteland

Sideboard:

3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Gilded Drake
2 Hydroblast
2 Shadow of Doubt
4 Oxidize
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No room in the house exceeds a length of twenty-five feet, let alone fifty feet, let alone fifty-six and a half feet, and yet Chad and Daisy's voices are echoing, each call responding with an entirely separate answer. In the living room, Navidson discovers the echoes emanating from a dark, doorless hallway which has appeared out of nowhere in the west wall.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2006, 07:41:40 am »

7) Cedric Moulin - Uba Stax (had some proxies, but not indicated what)

4 Mishra's Workshop
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
5 Mountain
2 Barbarian Ring

1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
-------------------------------------30 Mana+zaar, So far so good, except it should be -2 Mountain +2 Barbarian Ring
4 Goblin Welder
1 Karn, Silver golem
1 Trinisphere
4 Smokestack
4 Tangle Wire
3 Uba Mask
3 Jester's Cap
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Chalice of the void
--------------------------------------------Only 27 cards.  There are 3 missing.  Either way, it should be +1 Chalice, +1 Cap, +1 Uba Mask

Sideboard:

3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Granite Shard
4 Defense Grid
3 Gorilla Shaman
1 Chalice of the void
1 Jester's Cap
1 Masticore

----------------------------Why Sideboard a lone chalice?  And why Sideboard Masticore?  I would have done -1 Chalice -1 Masticore, +2 Granite Shard.  As well, Shamans aren't that great in the board, and would have done -3 Shaman +3 Heretic/Spree
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2006, 08:13:49 am »


6) Berukof Ilja - CS

4 Mana Drain
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Tinker
2 Thirst for knowledge Should be 4, of course!
4 Goblin Welder
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Pentavus
1 Duplicant
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mindslaver
1 Triskelion

1 Black Lotus I didn't play Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
4 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded strand
1 Strip Mind
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Forbidden Orchard
1 Seat of the Synod
2 Wasteland

Sideboard:

4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Jester's Cap
1 Viashino Heretic
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Arcane Laboratory
2 Darkblast
2 Gilded Drake

Nice tournament, I'll try to make it next time too.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2006, 10:11:47 am »

Some questions with the CS List:
2 Thirst for knowledge 
Why only two?

4 Goblin Welder
Why not 3?  You play will, which puts them back into play if they die.  4 is heavy.

1 Pentavus
Nobody has played a real lock component in ages.

1 Crucible of Worlds
Why play this if you play pentivus?  extreme overkill

4 Underground Sea
WAY too heavy

2 Forbidden Orchard
2 Wasteland
WTF!?    Orchard and wasteland are HORRIBLE in CS.  You don't need wasteland, and orchards arn't the correct way to combat Oath.

4 Tormod's Crypt
This is WAAAAAAAAAAY to heavy.  2 or 3 max.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 01:04:10 pm »

Quote from: Mulder
2 Thirst for knowledge Should be 4, of course!

Sorry about that. I had a hard time reading all decklists. And I copy pasted power stuff assuming everyone playing slaver would play it all in a proxy environment...
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 04:07:29 pm »

Some questions with the CS List:
2 Thirst for knowledge 
Why only two?

I played 4, it was a typo.

4 Goblin Welder
Why not 3?  You play will, which puts them back into play if they die.  4 is heavy.

You're correct, I found myself siding one out most of the time, 3 is probably the way to go.

1 Pentavus
Nobody has played a real lock component in ages.

Does that mean it's bad? Pentavus can block forever, create an infinite slaver lock, improve the Stax matchup (Stax doesn't like it when you have lots of permanents I hear) and hit hard. This would probably the last fattie I'd consider cutting.

1 Crucible of Worlds
Why play this if you play pentivus?  extreme overkill

I don't play any basics and this is a nice solution to that problem. On top of that, Crucible/Strip Mine can steal some games, it's good versus Stax and it's also an infinite slaver lock with the artifact land. That and the fact I can reuse fetchlands is good enough reason to include one.

4 Underground Sea
WAY too heavy

Mmmm, I need a lot of blue mana, wat should I replace them with? Basics?

2 Forbidden Orchard
2 Wasteland
WTF!?    Orchard and wasteland are HORRIBLE in CS.  You don't need wasteland, and orchards arn't the correct way to combat Oath.

Well, I can honestly say that they're not that terrible. Wasting an opponents Bazaar, Workshop or Library can be quite good I hear...
And the Orchards... well I just wanted to test them. They're not that bad, since they produce mana of any color and the tokens don't really matter. They also improve the Oath matchup. But overall I wasn't that impressed and they should probably be replaced with some basic islands or so. They're pretty bad against Stax too.


4 Tormod's Crypt
This is WAAAAAAAAAAY to heavy.  2 or 3 max.

Here i don't agree... Crypts are good against Slaver, Friggorid, Dragon, any deck that plays Will... . And they help against that annoying card called Darkblast...

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2006, 01:15:22 am »

Crucible + wasteland DESTROYS you.

your mana base should probobly look like (if running crux)

1 strip
1 tolarian
2 usea
3/4 volcanic
3/4 basic island
0/1 library of alexandria
0/1 seat of the synod
1/0 Darksteel Citadel.  (depending if you play seat)
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