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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2006, 03:23:41 pm »

As for food, English food is getting something of a bad rep here: well cooked English food is fantastic. Trouble is, most places you go to won't give you any sort of decent cut of meat, which makes the rest of it very difficult to enjoy. Good English food does exist, though!

Best meal i've had in england was at mcdonald's...worst meal i've had in denmark was...at mcdonalds Wink
okay, im exaggerating a bit...!
I kinda like english breakfast though...its decent.

I never forget the Vinegar snacks i got in england...thats about the most disgusting thing i've ever tasted.

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2006, 03:53:40 pm »

Like I said, it's not easy to find something nice - but when you do, it's worth it! The idea that lard is, in fact, not what one might term a "seasoning" or anything like it, still hasn't permeated most people's heads; some people have noticed it, though!

I can't remember what the email actually said, but I got forwarded this thing once that was saying that the French smoke more than we do, the Italians drink more beer than we do, the Germans drink more beer than we do, the Russians drink more vodka than we do, the Spanish get less exercise than we do (don't blame you, it's seriously hot there!), and the Americans eat (even) more fat than we do - and yet they ALL suffer from heart disease less than the English.
Moral of the story: Eat, drink, and live how you like, because it's being English that kills you.

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Oh yeah, and another thing about us: we manage to piss the rest of Europe off like America manages to piss the rest of the world off! Don't know how we do it!

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2006, 09:45:31 am »

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Oh yeah, and another thing about us: we manage to piss the rest of Europe off like America manages to piss the rest of the world off! Don't know how we do it!

Does hooliganism ring a bell. As you English cannot hold your liquor because of the lame ale you drink at home, the English that go mainland go drunk easily and start being hooligans. Next to that most English have some kind of superiority feeling, almost as bad as the Germans and the French. So go figure...

By the way, i like the English, i really do.
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2006, 11:11:13 am »

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Oh yeah, and another thing about us: we manage to piss the rest of Europe off like America manages to piss the rest of the world off! Don't know how we do it!

Does hooliganism ring a bell. As you English cannot hold your liquor because of the lame ale you drink at home, the English that go mainland go drunk easily and start being hooligans. Next to that most English have some kind of superiority feeling, almost as bad as the Germans and the French. So go figure...

By the way, i like the English, i really do.

Yeah, that's definitely a big part of it - I don't think it's actually got that much to do with whether we can take our beer or not though. It's more of a cultural thing - every culture has a way of being pissed off with the world and thus perpetuating it by not contributing as a useful member of society; however, most other nationalities (with some exceptions, although they tend to be laregely confined to more specific minorities than in England; most of the English who are violent tend to be fairly typical working class with some sort of resentment, though ethnicity or anything else tends to be purely incidental - it can affect pretty much any group with some sort of resentment) will rarely let it be some sort of national phenomenon. Every culture has a few people that want to get violent, and there's unfortunately not much that can be done about that; however, the English as a group tend to have something in their personality - whether it's part of the "island mentality" or not I don't know, although I think it is - that makes them generally more aggressive, and thus want to assert superiority over others as a group mentality, rather than individually (which everyone has; just look at the success of the free market, where success is the driving force - whether money is involved or not, and it usually is, every success that you gain must be at someone else's expense. It's the competitive drive in all of us surfacing in a way that is (mostly) good for the community, because it drives all of us to excel.). Those who aren't bothered about asserting superiority in the overly antagonistic way as others just don't tend to get rowdy at all; for example, I drink because it's fun to get drunk and have a dance and/or a chat with people, not because of any particular communal anger; if you drink because it's fun (and it is, mostly - even if you start to lose control, there's nothing lost if you're just drinking and chatting with friends), that's OK in my book, rather than drinking to get drunk - with the implication that you'll think about WHY you're getting drunk afterwards, or what you're going to do once you get drunk.

I think that every nationality has some sort of superiority complex. It's just that the English as a group try and assert it more than others. I personally do not see any attraction in hooliganism whatsoever - what is being violent to anyone else going to prove? Ever? - but some people see it as a way to assert their superiority complex on others, since they often don't get the chance to try and show their worth in the regular comings and goings of the world. However, there is still a vague feeling of being reserved in England, as anyone who comes here will notice - if anyone's ever seen "Trigger Happy TV" (basically a series of sketches where one major thing that it's mocking is the complete lack of British reaction to something totally outrageous and ridiculous), you'll know how inert the British can really be - and the drinking gets rid of that. They forget that violence doesn't solve anything, and get aggressive. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen when people are sober, but I think that no matter how well people could hold their drink in England, people would drink until they lost their inhibitions, with the results you see every now and then.

BigMac, I think you like the English more than I do to be honest; I like specific British people - quite a lot of specific British people, as it happens, and pretty much anyone who I have or haven't met who doesn't annoy me is fine in my book - but "The English" as a group only tend to come to the foreground when they're doing something that makes me truly ashamed of my nationality.

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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2006, 04:49:55 pm »

I still dont understand why english people cant take alcohol.

if I go out, I always drink the same, if not more than all my friends, while they getdrunk and puke, while I just get drunk. its so weird, they always puke. after so many years, you d think they could handle a bit of alcohol.

I gues one reason is that in other countries in europe, youcan drink if your 16, while in the UK its 18. so thats 2 yars of drinking advantage we have here.
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2006, 05:06:22 pm »

Well, there's a variety of reasons why people get ill after drinking: drinking too quickly is probably the main reason, but it's also the British drinking culture coming back again. It's not like we're the only country that has it, but there is a definite mentality - especially with the young - that drinking is a means to an end, and that the end is being drunk, rather than having the idea that being a bit drunk is a means to the end of having fun. People don't tend to learn how to drink responsibly (which is why I'm appalled at the legislation to get rid of bars in schools - pupils being able to have a beer in the evening, under completely safe circumstances, is easily the best way to not only make sure people are drinking in moderation as opposed to getting wasted in the pub, but also to get people into the habit of just having a beer when they go to drink, rather than feeling that getting wasted is an end in itself), so their livers never actually get used to taking alcohol in moderation - as such, every time that it hits someone, their liver isn't accustomed to it because people are stuffing more down their throats, and so they get ill on not as much booze. Maybe having the drinking age as 16 would help, but whatever age you have it at, people will drink underage, and when they drink underage, they all think it's especially impressive to get wasted; I think it's more the fact that we mostly don't get taught - whether by parents, schools, or other role models - to drink in moderation, so that when you then exceed said moderation, you can handle it because you're used to drinking without any significant bad effects. Hence the French can handle wine really well, because they are exposed to it in a responsible setting and get used to it.

Having said that, though, it's actually really not that hard to stop drinking if you're going to be sick. It's not even willpower, it's common sense - even when you're drunk there's still something in the back of your mind telling you that if you drink that, you'll be sick; so just don't drink it.

Bad Wolf - I assume from one of your earlier posts that you're a student here: which university are you at?

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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2006, 06:48:25 am »

I think it's more the fact that we mostly don't get taught - whether by parents, schools, or other role models - to drink in moderation, so that when you then exceed said moderation, you can handle it because you're used to drinking without any significant bad effects.

Quoted for being the fukcing TRUTHERY. Learning responsibility in that area has gone down the drain for a couple of years, and in a certain class. We've got the same phenomenon here in Germany. The old rites de passage have withered away until only the senseless drinking remained. Youths don't learn anymore from examples (role models) -- and if they do, mostly the examples are bad ones.

That being said, you should never drink excessively anyway. I am guilty of it as much as many others are, but I've long ago learned to draw a line that I only ever crossed once in my life. As a completely unrelated addendum, don't drink and drive, not even half a tin o' beer.

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2006, 06:51:42 am »

Bad Wolf - I assume from one of your earlier posts that you're a student here: which university are you at?
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uni of sheffield.

I suppose you are right about the means to an end. back home, we go out to have fun, and drinking makes it easier. people get more loose, they become more chatty, and then they we have fun.
here we go out to get wasted. if I go out here, every single time someone of my friends has to be carried home, and they are sick in their beds. Hence i stopped going out, because the fun is less.
problem is, that I took some gap years, and therefor I am 22 and most of my friends are 19-20. back home I started drinking, smoking and other stuff. that means that I have been doing all this for 7 years, while most of my mates here started at uni. I gues if I never drank before, I would behave differently and I would join all their drinking games.
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