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« on: September 05, 2006, 03:12:41 pm » |
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I was looking at the Skeleton with the "Must block each turn if able" and I had an interesting idea. What if we revoked the "if able"?
[Midrange White Uncommon] - 1WW Creature - CreatureType This can block as though it were untapped even while tapped This must block each turn if able. 2/3
That wording is really awkward, but I feel like it's sort of an interesting card.
Current Version:
Tireless Infantry - 1WW Creature - Human Soldier As long as Tireless Infantry is tapped, it can block as though it were untapped. This must block each turn if able. Always back before dawn. 2/3
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 03:25:02 pm » |
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This is cool.
"~This~ can block as though it were untapped." should be sufficient, but it is slightly unclear. Would simply "Vigilance" be enough, or do you want to prevent him from being granted a tap ability a la Hermetic Study or Ocular Halo?
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 04:30:01 pm » |
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I want this to be able to block no matter what.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 06:09:22 pm » |
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The templating most consistent with other cards that I can think of (considering Masako the Humorless, Sword of the Paruns, Giant Tortoise, etc.) would be:
"As long as ~this~ is tapped, it can block as though it were untapped."
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 09:33:27 pm » |
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Do you think we could get away with "~this~ can block while tapped"? So simple, it's just GOT to work!
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 10:38:23 pm » |
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I'm wary of saying "it can block while tapped" without specifying that it can only block shit it could block while untapped, since otherwise it causes some serious confusion.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2006, 10:53:43 pm » |
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I think andrewpate's suggestion is the best. It still feels a little redundant, but it is very clear and concise.
As long as ~this~ is tapped, it may block as though it were untapped.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 12:21:39 am » |
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Yeah, that's what I figured to but I wanted to wait a little bit before changing it. I changed it.
So, looking for flavor. If possible, I'd like to avoid something boring, like Humans, or Soldiers. I really like the Leonin, but I'm not sure that fits the flavor of the card. What about a Nomad of some sort? Nomad Sentry?
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 06:22:46 am » |
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Flavourwise, then, for creature type you'd want something that was omnipresent - like a spirit or a ghost. Something that's always around. And as 'overused' as it might seem, I think Spirit or something like it is probably your best choice.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 06:28:49 am » |
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Alternately you could have it an activated abiltiy like:  :Put ~ into combat blocking target attacking creature (that is attacking you?), use this ability only once each turn, only durring the declare blockers step, and only if ~ is not already in combat. The "not already in combat" part takes care of this card blocking multiple creatures. It leaves crazy things open for multiplayer as well, unless we want to restrict it to only your turn. It also get very very interesting if you tack on "this creature blocks each turn if able" because you would actually have to attempt to block your own creatures if you haven't declared ~ as an attacker. Just a thought.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2006, 10:13:05 am » |
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I'm not sure the rules can force you to play an activated ability. As interesting as that card is, I'm not sure it's worth the layers and layers of complexity that it adds to the card. Might be worth a spin-off though.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2006, 01:02:14 pm » |
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Harlequin: Try wording like this  : ~ blocks target attacking creature. Play this ability only once each combat, only during the declare blockers step, and only if ~ is not in combat.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2006, 01:21:52 pm » |
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Harlequin, that's an interesting but wholly different card.
I think the current wording on Anusien's card is perfect. Now all it needs is a name.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2006, 04:01:47 pm » |
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Nomads are a tribe I'd love to explore, but I can understand it not fitting the flavor. Does Spirit make sense, or is there another good tribe?
By the way, to start on a name, adjectives like Vigilant, Eternal, Ready all help fit.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2006, 12:37:58 pm » |
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Anyone got help with a name?
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 12:55:44 pm » |
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Anyone got help with a name?
White Rhino.
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 09:03:28 pm » |
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Roving Guardian/Eternal Guardian
Flavour text to the effect that wherever this guy goes, he still protects his homeland.
(editted in 'Eternal Guardian')
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2006, 10:27:46 pm » |
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I like White Rhino. It's too plain but it catches me anyway,
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2006, 12:05:34 am » |
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It's cute, but I'm not sure it matches the ability. If we don't use it, we definitely need a rhino card, since we're almost at a tribe (2 rhino cards). Plus, Rhinos aren't white, even if you spraypaint them.
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2006, 12:15:05 am » |
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2006, 09:46:27 am » |
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White Rhinoceros: From the Afrikaans word describing its mouth: weit, meaning "wide"; early English settlers in South Africa misinterpreted the "weit" for "white". Still not white.
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2006, 12:24:16 pm » |
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Plus, Rhinos aren't white, even if you spraypaint them.
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 03:54:14 pm » |
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I think White Rhino is a great name for some other card. This card in particular doesn't feel like a Rhino. And Rhinos in general don't feel very white. Rhinos are green. This card is all about combat, so I think a militaristic flavor is best. You could go with an adjective-noun pair: Stalwart Troops, Stout Guard, Ever-ready Infantry, whatever-the-white-nation-for-this-block-is Soldier. Or maybe this could be cavalry? That would explain why it could go attack, but still get back in time to defend against the counter-attack. Or it could be sneaky, like a Guerilla. determined Synonyms: active, eager, energetic, enthusiastic, grind, hard-working*, hyper*, incessant, indefatigable, industrious, jumping, perky, persevering, resolute, steadfast, strenuous, unflagging, untiring, unwearied, unwearying, vigorous Unflagging Infantry? Tireless Soldiers? Vigorous Cavalry?
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 05:46:21 pm » |
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ALBINO RHINO, it even rhymes!
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 08:57:01 pm » |
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White has elephants, so maybe that would be a more appropriate creature type. Also there is actually such a thing as a White Rhino. Incidentally, albino doesn't rhyme with rhino in English, only in American  .
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2006, 09:07:12 am » |
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Well, it's still a sight rhyme, with which William Blake would be perfectly comfortable.
Elephants typically have trample or some other means of representing their crushing power (e.g., Rogue Elephant). They are a cool and flavorful creature type, but I don't see them being any better than rhinos for this card in terms of addressing what parallax pointed out, namely that the card doesn't seem like a large mammal. It's more like a soldier of some kind.
You could attempt some sort of flavor where it can actually fight while asleep. Like some kind of shaman that astral projects while dreaming. It would rely a lot on the artwork, I think, but the right flavor text could help make the concept clear. Just a thought.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2006, 03:06:13 pm » |
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Clock?
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2006, 01:40:42 pm » |
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Is the interaction with stuff like Psionic Gift too outside the flavor of this card to just give it Vigilance and say "~This~ must block if able" rather than avoiding the rules hazard with a 'If ~This~ is tapped, it may block as though it were untapped' wording?
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2006, 01:56:32 pm » |
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There are currently only 2 rhino's in all of magic, and both are Green, so i'd have to assume that rhino's in magic are "Green" (as in part of the color green in magic) regardless of the color (as in actualy color on the animal) they have in the real world.
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2006, 07:13:57 pm » |
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Don't forget Ebony Rhino!
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