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Author Topic: ERTAI'S MEDDLING and suspend...  (Read 1074 times)
chrissss
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« on: September 13, 2006, 05:57:07 am »

how do these work together?

my opponent plays a lotus bloom, and I respond by putting 4 delay counters on it.

how many turns? What happens after the 4 turns?

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Yes,Tarmogoyf is probably better than Chameleon Colossus, but comparing it to Tarmogoyf is like comparing your girlfriend to Carmen Electra - one's versatile and reliable, the other's just big and cheap.(And you'd run both if you could get away with)
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 06:32:17 am »

Remember the innitial use of Susspend does not cast the spell, from what I've heard it doesn't even use the stack (like morph).  So Its turn 1, and I suspend my Lotus.  Even if you played tolarian mox mox, you can't do anything with Meddling because there is no spell to work with.  Now its turn 4, and my Lotus bloom goes on the stack (as a spell) at the begining of my upkeep.  Now you can drop your E-Meddling on it (I think).  And if you declare X = 4 then it will get bassically re-suspended for an additional 4 turns.  Now its turn 8 and I will finally get the Lotus.

From what I have read about susspend thats how it works, however its probably best to wait until the offical update to the Comp Rules.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2006, 08:21:15 am »

Official on Suspend:

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* The initial suspend, like morph, is one of those abilities your opponent can't get around. Suspending is not the same as playing the card. It neither uses the stack nor allows a response, which means there's no practical way to counter it. For those who require more technical detail: your ability to pull your own card out of the game is static, not triggered or activated.

* Once the card is suspended, everything else that happens with it happens on the stack. Like everything else that says "at the beginning of your upkeep", the removal of a time counter gives people a chance to respond. (Someone, for example, could Stifle the removal of such a counter, delaying the spell another turn. You know, if that's what floats their boat.)

* When you take the last counter off, it's time to play the spell. For nothing. Woo-hoo! Of course, this action still uses the stack. Now the spell can attract a Counterspell.

Source: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/aa245 ("RULES-IN-A-BOX")

Full technical rules for suspend: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/mr245 (scroll down)
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2006, 08:56:07 am »

thanks. This makes it clear. not that I am ever using the ertai's meddling, I just wanted to know.
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