Basic land bounce

[zeus-online]

Basic land bounce - U
Sorcery
Return target basic land to its owners hand.


I've been playing with a casual bounce deck lately, and so it hit me: A cheap very narrow bounce spell that could only hit basics. I'm still not sure if this would be too good, in conjunction with other bounce-spells and land destruction this could prove to be a problem. But i figured i might aswell post it anyway.

/Zeus


Current wording:
Basic land bounce - U
Sorcery
Return target basic land to its owner's hand unless that player pays .

Still needs a name?

[asmoranomardicodais]

Make it non-basic perhaps? It's way to powerful this way. My other concern is that I thought they said things that bounce lands should have two U in there mana cost, but I don't remember for sure. As it is though, it makes it far to easy to gain massive turn advantage over someone.

[Slack]

I agree.  This is highly unfair.  Vore is bad enough when they get the T1-Sleight, T2 Eye of nowhere, T3 stone rain.  Giving them the ability to do T1 Bounce, T2 Eye, T3 stone rain on the draw isn't a good idea.

Making it non-basic only isn't a bad idea because then it would just force people to play out basics before they drop non-basics to make sure they don't get hosed.

[zeus-online]

I realized it was pretty good looong before i posted it, i've thought about making it nonbasic, but there's like a million cards that hose nonbasics already, and bouncing a "Bounce-land" is really mean

This card should obviosly only go into a set with a minimal amount of bounce-spells.

I'd still like to see a way to make this card fair, any thoughts?

/Zeus

[parallax]

I realized it was pretty good looong before i posted it, i've thought about making it nonbasic, but there's like a million cards that hose nonbasics already, and bouncing a "Bounce-land" is really mean

This card should obviosly only go into a set with a minimal amount of bounce-spells.

I'd still like to see a way to make this card fair, any thoughts?

/Zeus

Number 1 on parallax's list of techniques for making cards fair: Cost them fairly.

This card costs .

Edit: Also, I'm not sure why you'd want a card that only bounces basic lands. It seems like a pointless card in any deck that's not trying to bounce and destroy every land your opponent controls. We should not be encouraging that type of deck.

[zeus-online]

Hmmm if that really is the only way to fix this card, then close the thread.

at 2 mana this card is worse then...like all other bounce-spells made.

/Zeus

[parallax]

Hmmm if that really is the only way to fix this card, then close the thread.

at 2 mana this card is worse then...like all other bounce-spells made.

/Zeus

If you can explain why you want to make a one-mana land-bounce spell, other than to enable a very annoying deck, then maybe we can help you fix it.

Possible solution: "Return target basic land to its owner's hand unless that player pays ."

[zeus-online]

That actually fits the purpose pretty well, i wanted to create a very narrow bounce spell that could only be used as land destruction. so a force-spike bounce seems cool

i'll change the card.

/Zeus

[dandan]

Land + return to sender + option to pay = Parcel

Would Parcel be an apt name?

[Anusien]

No no no.  Not mana.  Makes it too much of a swingy card that punishes aggro decks on turn 1.  It's a phantom Force Spike which is fundamentally a bad card.  Allow them to discard a card instead.