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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2007, 08:43:27 am »

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Is there really any point to run Elvish Spirit Guilde in Hulk Flash. I mean this is a two mana combo. How ofter are you stuck on one land, with also running moxes, lotus, and lotus petal

It's one of the few ways to trump 2-sphere or Chalice @ Zero, while also allowing for multiples of Summoner's Pact to not be entirely useless.

Exactly.  And, in fact, having the capability for extra copies of Summoner's Pact to add mana to your pool is critical when, as sometimes happens, the deck mulligans to 4 or 5 to get the combo and the resulting hand is lethal but mana-light.
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2007, 10:02:44 pm »

Pictures are now up.  We only have a few because JOE DAVIS forgot his camera and Mike's has very limited battery power.
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2007, 07:46:52 am »

See above, Leyline isn't even good enough anymore with Reverent Silence around....Leyline in play, Cast Rev Si, Opponent goes FOW, you go FOW/Pact, Flash, GG.

That's been my experience too. I've been pushing 4 Reverent Silence and 4 Massacre on the board since they deal with the most played problematic cards (Leyline and Mindcensor).

But what do you take out to bring all that in?  Plus, Leyline and Mindcensor aren't the only problems.  If you're facing Mindcensors, then you're probably facing Bomberman, which means you'll need to deal with Engineered Explosives for 1, and possibly even Chalice at 2.  Reverent Silence and Massacre don't do anything against those, so now you'll need to bring in something to deal with artifacts, too.  How do you find room in Flash to bring in all this anti-hate?

I played Flash at a tournament last weekend (report here), and this is what I encountered.  In several games, I was prevented from comboing out by Spheres of Resistence, Glowriders (!), Grand Arbiter Augustin (!), Engineered Explosives, Aven Mindcensors, and of course Leylines.  Most of the time, I didn't even bring in Reverent Silence, opting instead for more bounce (Chain of Vapor, Echoing Truth), since they would at least let me deal with whichever particular hate my opponent happened to land first.  But that increased the demands on my mana.

In a 59 player event, with allegedly 7 Flash decks in attendance, none of them made the top-8.  However, that may at least in part be due to a metagame that was expecting lots of Flash, and was ready for it.
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2007, 12:59:25 pm »

kombat, in your SB I would suggest +2 Elvish Spirit Guide +2 basic Island +2 Darkblast and -1 E. Truth -2 Hurkyl's -3 Rev Silence or something along those lines. The ESGs and basic lands can help in the Stax matchup and against random decks running random hate like the Glowriders and Augustin. Darkblast is obviously for Mindcensor and other random x/1s.

I don't know how much you like the Street Wraiths main. Maybe they were good for you in testing but perhaps -3 Wraith +2 bounce +1 Brainstorm?? Just my .02 cents.




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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2007, 02:30:57 pm »

Pictures are now up.  We only have a few because JOE DAVIS forgot his camera and Mike's has very limited battery power.

I totally had my camera with me.
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2007, 02:41:22 pm »

wtf?  Why didn't you give it to me?
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2007, 04:23:14 pm »

You didn't ask?
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