[01/13/08] The Mana Clash Open 2- Vintage vs Legacy...The Ultimate Grudge Match

[iamfishman]

Hi all.

Some of you may have come to my The Mana Clash 1 event some time ago.  It was an overnight event where there were 5 rounds of Vintage and 5 rounds of Legacy.  There was a cool Arabians, Antiquities, Revised Draft for the top 4 in each event.  After all was said and done, Jermeiah Rudolph defended Vintage declaring once and for all which format was better.  Or had he?

Enter The Mana Clash Open 2(Legacy vs Vintage- Day edition).  I want to make what will go down in history as the greatest competion between Vintage and Legacy ever.  All the stops will be cut out and bragging and trash talking should be at an time high.  Here is how it is going to go down:

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First the neccesary info:
When:
Sunday, January 13, 2008
Registration: 10:00 AM - 11:00 AM
Tournies Starts PROMPTLY at 11:00 AM(To avoid a prolonged tournament, this will be strictly enforced.  Latecomers will be subject to a round 1 loss.)

Where:
Gamingetc Tournament Center and SuperStore
555 Lordship Boulevard (Exit 30 off I95)
Stratford CT 06615
1-800-380-1115 or 203-849-0186

Lodgings:
Ramada Inn
225 Lordship Boulevard
Stratford, Ct 06615
203-375-8866

Dopeness Factor:
A deck of 40 cards has four each of cards marked 1, 2, 3, ... 10. Two cards with the same number are removed from the deck. Dopeness Factor = the probability that two cards randomly selected from the remaining 38 have the same number as each other times 703

Cost: $25 Entry Fee
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Ok, so here the real meat an potatoes info.

Vintage players, dust off those Legacy decks.  Legacy players, prepare those mox proxies.

When you enter the event, you will either enter a Vintage Time Walk Event of a Legacy event for 1 of each Revised Dual Land.
Whichever event you enter is your "affiliation".
Each event will be run as a normal Vintage or Legacy event.
Throughout the day, however, there will be several "grudge match" type events to pit all players with the Legacy affiliation versus all those with the Vintage affiliation.
These include, but are not limited to:
1.) A game of magic trivia with only two big teams, Vintage and Legacy.
2.) The opportunity to act as "the spoiler",  If anyone after round 2 wishes to drop from their event, they may do so, to be entered into one of two free single elimination side events, each for a pair of non-blue dual lands.  You can drop from either event to enroll in either event.  The catch: if you drop from the Vintage main event and enroll in the Legacy side event(you have to use a Legacy deck) or vice versa, you play in that tournament for normal prizes, but also as "a spoiler".  If you have a legacy affiliation and knock out a vintage player in the vintage side event(or vice versa), you get a free booster in the round you do so.
3.) After the main events, the top two players from each event will play in an additional single game of two headed giant.  The four decks of these players will be randomly assigned to the players so that each team has to play one vintage deck and one legacy deck(though the team can choose who plays which deck).  The prize: Unparralleled recognition: Why?  Whichever team wins, in addition to bragging rights, will have won everyone who is affiliated with that formate that is still at the venue a free booster pack.

Format 1: Vintage
Proxies: 10 Proxies + $1 per proxy(15 proxies maximum)
Based on 30 competitors:
1st Place: Unlimited Time Walk
2nd Place: Italian Mana Drain
3rd Place: Choice of Dual Land
4th Place: Choice of Non-Blue Dual Land
5-8th Place: Draft Set

Format 2: Legacy
Proxies: None
DCI Sanctioned: YES
Based on 30 competitors:
1st Place: 1 of each Revised Dual Land
2nd Place: 4 Simplified Chinese Tarmogoyf(EDIT)
3rd Place: Tarmogoyf
4th Place: Thoughtsieze
5-8th Place: Draft Set

Prizes will be increased as attendance does.

Vintage vs. Legacy Magic Trivia(Free with Prizes for all participants)

Free Side event for Vintage for 2 non-blue duals.
Free Side event for Legacy for 2 non-blue duals.

The store stocks a huge selection of singles and will be selling pizza, soda and other refreshments during the day.

I'm sure there will be plenty of questions so feel free to barage me with them.

Cya there.
Ray

P.S.- Don't forget to check out the awesome Myriad Games tourney happening in Salem, NH the day before.  It should be awesome.

[MadManiac21]

Dopeness factor = 55?

I think I did the math on that right: [(37/38*3/37)+(2/38*1/37)]*703 = 55

Sounds like a fun event.

[iamfishman]

Dopeness factor = 55?

I think I did the math on that right: [(37/38*3/37)+(2/38*1/37)]*703 = 55

Sounds like a fun event.

Correct

Wow...I have never had a dopeness factor correctly answered so quickly...perhaps I should put a new, harder one up.

And yes...the event will be tons of fun. 

[T00L]

Oh man i'm all over this guess I need to start caring about legacy again.

[Myriad Games]

Looking forward to this event, back-to-back with our first Vintage event of 2008!

[Jeffro]

this sounds nutty. all of us will try to make it. outlaw, munch, stringbean, sextiger and i will hopefully attend.

[Moxlotus]

That event sounds like it would be a blast.  I wish I lived in the area for this one.

[Outlaw]

So should we make like a Vintage all-star team to combat against a Legacy all-star team?  Vintage will obviously be Evil and who better to lead an Evil team other than myself?  There should be 2 4-5 man teams voted by the communities to be the all-stars, and the All-stars will square off with each team using each others formats?

[Rock Lee]

I'll be there for sure.

I can offer the "Mana Clash Open I" trophy to the winner of the tournament if you want Ray.

Of course, this will require some difficulty of me handing myself a trophy.. >.>

I'll figure it out!

[Sporkcore]

So should we make like a Vintage all-star team to combat against a Legacy all-star team?  Vintage will obviously be Evil and who better to lead an Evil team other than myself?  There should be 2 4-5 man teams voted by the communities to be the all-stars, and the All-stars will square off with each team using each others formats?

Wouldn't making teams require a list of who will actually be at the event? Ray already has a similar idea to this with the side events, having Legacy players able to play in the Vintage side event and Vintage players win the Legacy side event. Maybe there could be a Legacy vs. Vintage multiplayer tourny where Legacy players could only attack/combo off against Vintage players and vice versa.

[Rock Lee]

I think we should have Format defining colors like Political parties.

I say. Vintage gets Blue. Legacy gets Green or Red.

[daboo]

Wow, I may actually be there.  Its been a while.

edit: whoa, just noticed something. 
My Report from Ray's January Tournament in 2005
My Report from Ray's January Tournament in 2006
I forget what happened in '07, but I didn't make it.
What will happen this time?

[sorcutt]

Hey Ray, if by some miracle I T8 with Staxless Stax can you make me a set of Workshop proxies?

-Sean

[iamfishman]

Okay...I listened to some people who mentioned that Reset was kind of a lame prize for 2nd place fot the Legacy event.

Ok...how about this.

Second place is now 4 Simplified Chinese Tarmogoyfs.

Okay...pick your mouth up off the floor and start planning to be in Stratford for this event.

Ray

[Marek]

Put the simplified chinese goyfs with the vintage prizes, I want them haha. 

Anywho, I should be there and I'm looking forward to this.

Marek

[Rock Lee]

Those sim Chinese Goyfs are making me drool uncontrollably.

Maybe I should play legacy... mmm.... NO!

[Sporkcore]

I'm hoping I don't have work so I can join in on this fun fun day of fun.

[Gaagooch]

You know im there...outlaw we dont need 3 other people on our team...team shake and bake can take on a whole bunch of legacy players...besides that i can play legacy too!

[T00L]

Hmmm a bunch of duals and a playset of chinese goyfs vs a time walk and a drain? Guess i'm playing legacy

[Madpeep]

Looks like alot of fun.  I'll be there.

[Marek]

I actually don't think I can make it now, things came up.  If anything changes I'll let you know.

Marek

[iamfishman]

So I have some minor news.

I ordered and won on ebay 4 Simplified Tarmogoyfs about 4 weeks ago.

The last few days as they still didn't come in the mail I got worried so I contacted the seller.  Turns out he was lazy and didn't send them out until after the new Year(Jan 5th to be exact.)

They are currently working there way through customs.  Feel free to track them along with me at USPS.com.  Tracking number RR507749667CN

What this means is that the 4 simplifed Tarmogoyfs will still be second prize for the Legacy event, but that I will not likely have them for Sunday.

Obviously, whomever wins them will have them sent priority mail the same day that they arrive.  I feel I have enough of a reputation that people could trust me.  As a matter of fact, I am going to include some extra goodies with said package so you actually get more for waiting about a week for the goyfs.

I have had people win my events before that were using the point system, and rather than claim a prize they simply asked me to find a buy a specific item and send it to them.  This is sort of the same thing.

I do, however, understand if someone see this as bunk, and so that is why I am posting right now, to let anyone who might be put off by this seller's laziness, and not want to go to the event now.  It is only fair to let you know the status.

I apologize for any inconvienance this may have caused, but I give you my word: second place in the Legacy event WILL get their 4 Simplifed Tarmogoyfs just as quickly as I can get them to them.

P.S...the seller had a near flawless ebay rating in the thousands of transactions.

[TopSecret]

As far as I know, the top 8 for the Vintage portion of this event was:

2 Mono-Red Workshop Aggro
1 Three-color Keeper
1 UR Faeries
1 RG Goblins
1 GATr*
1 Angel Oath*
1 U/b*

*Edit due to ELD's post.

[ELD]

Another well run event Ray.  The competition was great, and I played against a wide variety of decks.  I hope next time even more people show, it was a lot of fun.  It looked like the Magic Trivia was a blast, but I was busy playing in the Top 8 when it was going on.  From what I saw, everyone had a good time.  One of the other Top 8 Decks was Mono U/b, which I played against.  It seemed to splash just for DT and Will.  The other Top 8 deck was Angel Oath, which had DSC main as well.  The field was very diverse, with aggro and goblins making up a larger than normal section.  In the swiss I played against:

Goblins W
Angel Oath L
RG beats W
Sliver Flash W
Goblins ID

Top 8
Mono Red Workshop Aggro W
Top 4
3c Control L
3rd/4th playoff
Mono U/b W

I went with GATr, and I got the results I wanted in beating Workshop Aggro in the Top 8.  Ingot Chewer is fantastic.  I did lose to 2 blue based decks, which were not GAT, so there was a trade off.  I hope to make a report after I finish blanking the proxies. 

[Dxfiler]

I heard my mysterious friend, known simply as CVD, won the legacy portion and the 4 goyfs with ichorid.

Apparently there was no 2-headed playoffs, as the top 8 of the vintage ran long and CVD wanted to go home after steamrolling his top 8 :p

He said the event ran well.  I wanted to go but had other plans. 

Glad to hear the event was a success and look forward to reading the to report.

- Dave

[iamfishman]

The 4 Simp Chinese Goyfs showed up in my mailbox TODAY.

Ahh...sweet sweet irony. I'll be sending the to the winner tomorrow.

As for a report from this event, that is coming soon.

Ray