Official TMD "Players to avoid on MWS" list

[Mantis]

I advertised a 2/3 SERIOUS game, if he wasn't looking to play 2/3 games on a serious level tournament level he shouldn't have joined at all. I played a serious deck which has been a consistent T8 contender for many people, so that can't be the issue.
If a player quits after game 1, where he obviously drew the nuts and I got a bit unfortunate, that's just rude. Imagine yourself, wanting revenge for your bad draws and then your opponent makes a condescending remark and quits on you, that's just awful behaviour. I mean I am not insulted by someone that calls my mother names over the internet, I just shrug it off and don't care as I know the other person is probably a bit frustrated and he doesn't even know me or my mother so how can he judge anyway? This behaviour is more sort of intellectual bullying (I don't know how to describe it otherwise) and that's probably the only thing that gets to me. Also, the 'Thanks' was clearly meant sarcastic and definately not polite.

I had a similair experience against Grimm last night. He was playing TPS and I was again playing Shops. I had played around 10 matches that day and had won them all, but he managed to win against me due to me not keeping a very strong hand against TPS. He kept calling me n00b and how his Hurkyl's Recall would beat me anyway, so I challenged him to prove it game 2 but he just kept on ranting and making remarks against me. It's definately a player I am going to avoid in the future although it looked like he was a solid player.

That said, I must say that overall I have more pleasant experiences with people on MWS than unpleasant. I truly enjoy playing MWS so don't get me wrong.

EDIT: to further strengthen my comment; Grimm tried to join one of my games a few days back as well. I refused and cancelled my game and created another one. He kept joinng even when I asked him not to in my comment. He then proceeded to call me a n00b (if I recall correctly) and WHA HA HA -ed me.

[Lurker101]

 Beatdowntime is really irritating. He was ok the first game and then I beat him and he started calling me a moron and newb and whatnot. Here's a portion of the game log:
0:01:03 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> i dont know y u boarded seal in lol
0:01:04 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:01:05 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:01:07 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:01:08 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:01:08 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> its useless........
0:01:23 [Galen] <Galen> I actually boarded out two maindeck seals
0:01:29 [Galen] Galen taps Bayou
0:01:30 [Galen] Galen taps Mox Emerald
0:01:30 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> lol thats terrible....
0:01:30 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> lol
0:01:32 [Galen] Galen plays Seal of Primordium from Hand
0:01:33 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 4 (Galen)
0:01:33 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:01:34 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:01:34 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime flips a coin: TAILS
0:01:34 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:01:36 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Scrubland from Hand
0:01:38 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:01:38 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:01:39 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Sinkhole from Hand
0:01:40 [Galen] <Galen> no, no it's not
0:01:43 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Sinkhole to Graveyard from Play
0:01:44 [Galen] Galen puts Bayou to Graveyard from Play
0:01:46 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> yes yes it is
0:01:47 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:01:54 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> ur a terrible t1 player thou
0:02:00 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> ur deck scoups to real t1
0:02:08 [Galen] <Galen> from someone playing hymn and sinkhole your talking a whole lot
0:02:09 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> no disruption no hymm
0:02:15 [Galen] <Galen> hymn is shit
0:02:20 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> considering this won a 163 person t1 tournament
0:02:22 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> i think its good
0:02:23 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:02:28 [Galen] It is now turn 5 (beatdowntime)
0:02:28 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:30 [Galen] Galen untaps his/her permanents
0:02:30 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:31 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:33 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:02:35 [Galen] Galen plays Forest from Hand
0:02:38 [Galen] <Galen> End my turn
0:02:41 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 6 (beatdowntime)
0:02:41 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:41 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:02:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:02:44 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Scrubland from Hand
0:02:45 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:02:45 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:02:47 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Phyrexian Negator from Hand
0:02:49 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:02:49 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:02:50 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Dark Confidant from Hand
0:02:51 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:02:52 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:02:53 [Galen] It is now turn 7 (Galen)
0:02:53 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:02:56 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:02:56 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:02:58 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:03:00 [Galen] Galen plays Black Lotus from Hand
0:03:11 [Galen] Galen taps Black Lotus
0:03:14 [Galen] Galen puts Black Lotus to Graveyard from Play
0:03:17 [Galen] Galen plays Dark Ritual from Hand
0:03:20 [Galen] Galen plays Diabolic Edict from Hand
0:03:23 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Phyrexian Negator to Graveyard from Play
0:03:26 [Galen] Galen taps Forest
0:03:28 [Galen] Galen taps Mox Emerald
0:03:31 [Galen] Galen plays Nether Void from Hand
0:03:34 [Galen] Galen puts Dark Ritual to Graveyard from Play
0:03:36 [Galen] Galen puts Diabolic Edict to Graveyard from Play
0:03:37 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> ok
0:03:38 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 8 (Galen)
0:03:38 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:03:40 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:03:41 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Ethersworn Canonist into play from Library
0:03:43 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime's life total is now 15 (-2)
0:03:43 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Ethersworn Canonist to Hand from Play
0:03:44 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:03:45 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Polluted Delta from Hand
0:03:47 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Play
0:03:49 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime's life total is now 14 (-1)
0:03:50 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime is looking its Library...
0:03:57 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Scrubland into play from Library
0:03:57 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime shuffles library
0:03:58 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime stops looking its Library...
0:03:58 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime shuffles library
0:03:59 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:04:00 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:00 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:00 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:01 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps Swamp
0:04:01 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps Scrubland
0:04:02 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps Scrubland
0:04:02 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps Scrubland
0:04:03 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Dark Confidant
0:04:04 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:04:06 [Galen] Galen's life total is now 17 (-2)
0:04:07 [Galen] It is now turn 9 (beatdowntime)
0:04:07 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:04:08 [Galen] It is now turn 10 (Galen)
0:04:08 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:04:09 [Galen] Galen untaps his/her permanents
0:04:09 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:04:10 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:04:12 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:04:13 [Galen] Galen plays Polluted Delta from Hand
0:04:14 [Galen] Galen taps Polluted Delta
0:04:15 [Galen] Galen puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Play
0:04:16 [Galen] Galen's life total is now 16 (-1)
0:04:19 [Galen] Galen is looking top 48 cards of its Library...
0:04:28 [Galen] Galen puts Bayou into play from Library
0:04:35 [Galen] Galen stops looking its Library...
0:04:36 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:04:37 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:04:39 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:04:40 [Galen] Galen shuffles library
0:04:43 [Galen] <Galen> End my turn
0:04:44 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 11 (Galen)
0:04:44 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:04:44 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:04:46 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Phyrexian Negator into play from Library
0:04:49 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime's life total is now 11 (-3)
0:04:50 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Phyrexian Negator to Hand from Play
0:04:50 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:04:53 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Swamp from Hand
0:04:55 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:04:55 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:55 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:55 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:04:55 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:04:56 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Ethersworn Canonist from Hand
0:04:57 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Dark Confidant
0:05:01 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Ethersworn Canonist to Graveyard from Play
0:05:01 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:05:02 [Galen] Galen puts Seal of Primordium to Graveyard from Play
0:05:04 [Galen] Galen's life total is now 14 (-2)
0:05:06 [Galen] It is now turn 12 (beatdowntime)
0:05:06 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:07 [Galen] It is now turn 13 (Galen)
0:05:07 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:09 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:09 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:11 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:05:16 [Galen] <Galen> End my turn
0:05:18 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 14 (Galen)
0:05:18 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:19 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:05:20 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Dark Ritual into play from Library
0:05:21 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime's life total is now 10 (-1)
0:05:22 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Dark Ritual to Hand from Play
0:05:23 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:05:32 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:05:32 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:05:32 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:05:32 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:05:35 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Duress from Hand
0:05:39 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime is looking opponent's Hand...
0:05:39 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Duress to Graveyard from Play
0:05:43 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> vt
0:05:44 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime stops looking opponent's Hand...
0:05:45 [Galen] Galen puts Vampiric Tutor to Graveyard from Hand
0:05:47 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Dark Confidant
0:05:48 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:05:50 [Galen] Galen's life total is now 12 (-2)
0:05:51 [Galen] It is now turn 15 (beatdowntime)
0:05:51 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:54 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:54 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:56 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:06:09 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> own void kills u newb
0:06:18 [Galen] <Galen> no not really
0:06:20 [Galen] <Galen> End my turn
0:06:21 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> yes
0:06:22 [beatdowntime] It is now turn 16 (beatdowntime)
0:06:22 [beatdowntime] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:06:23 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime untaps his/her permanents
0:06:24 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Polluted Delta into play from Library
0:06:26 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Polluted Delta to Hand from Play
0:06:26 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime draws a card
0:06:27 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Polluted Delta from Hand
0:06:28 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Polluted Delta to Graveyard from Play
0:06:29 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime's life total is now 9 (-1)
0:06:31 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime is looking its Library...
0:06:36 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime puts Scrubland into play from Library
0:06:37 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime shuffles library
0:06:37 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime stops looking its Library...
0:06:38 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime shuffles library
0:06:39 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Dark Confidant
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Swamp
0:06:42 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime taps Scrubland
0:06:42 [Galen] <Galen> and I've been playing since Masques block
0:06:43 [beatdowntime] beatdowntime plays Phyrexian Negator from Hand
0:06:46 [Galen] Galen's life total is now 10 (-2)
0:06:47 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> End my turn
0:06:48 [Galen] It is now turn 17 (Galen)
0:06:48 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:06:49 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:06:50 [Galen] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:06:51 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> ur a newb simple
0:06:52 [Galen] Galen draws a card
0:06:56 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> u die
0:07:30 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> lll
0:07:42 [Galen] <Galen> Your the one playing inferior cards, your the one bragging about winning, you're the one with some kind of strange confidence problem over a card game
0:07:57 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> lol inferir
0:07:59 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> Slol
0:08:11 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> ur a moron playing nethervoid...
0:08:16 [beatdowntime] <beatdowntime> u done moron?
0:08:27 [Galen] <Galen> learn how to play, learn some manners, and learn how to spell
0:08:33 [<System>] <System> Session Lost
0:08:33 [<System>] <System> Disconnected

[Grand Inquisitor]

Platymus is Sephiroth...and still hasn't learned how to build/play TPS.

[toor]

gg

advertises for serious  game. Complains when I drain his sol ring and then blow him out with daze. Leaver.

[Webster]

gg

advertises for serious  game. Complains when I drain his sol ring and then blow him out with daze. Leaver.

Mana Drain _AND_ Daze. I've got my eye on you now!

[Duncan]

This guy Fowler is not someone you want to play with. His join note is:

VINTAGE, no players, tiers 1, serious, expert level, no 60+ cards, 2000+ DCI, fast, skill. And obv PRO

Looks like a good testing opponent huh?

Well we play (I'm playing GWSx and he's playing some Remora deck). All goes well untel he accidentally shuffles instead of drawing a card for his repeal, he also had top in play so it mattered. I don't care that match cause I was already at a disadvantage, but I make some fun of him and his join note:

It is now turn 9 (Fowler)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Fowler untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
Fowler taps Island
Fowler taps Swamp
Fowler plays Repeal from Hand
<Duncan> Ok
Fowler puts Mystic Remora to Hand from Play
Fowler shuffles library
<Fowler> fuck
<Duncan> whay you shuffle?
<Fowler> my fact
<Duncan> omg
<Fowler> missclik
<Fowler> obv
<Duncan> only experts it said
<Duncan> its ok
<Fowler> lol?
<Duncan> go on
<Fowler> the D is in the right of S
Fowler plays Mystic Remora from Hand
Fowler plays Force of Will from Hand
Fowler plays Repeal from Hand
Fowler plays Force of Will from Hand
Fowler plays Mystic Remora from Hand
<Fowler> u cant win this game
<Fowler> isnt matter
<Duncan> oh?
<Fowler> cya
<System> Player Lost
<Duncan> lol
<System> Session Lost
<System> Disconnected

Hmm, not the reaction I expected. I said it was ok. Because I want to test some more against Remora and play game 2/3 I try te rejoin and ask why he left. I join his game with:

Let's play game 2/3

He accepts.

It is now turn 1 (Duncan)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
<Duncan> boarding
<Fowler> if play a good list
<Fowler> i keep in the game
<Fowler> no problem
<Fowler> but u run with bad cards..
<Duncan> its storm combo
<Fowler> sry for the missclik
<Fowler> bad build
<Fowler> of storm combo
<Fowler> cya man
<Duncan> its not tps
<System> Player Lost
<System> Session Lost
<System> Disconnected

Well, I am a bit pissed right now, so I rejoin with the note: Ever heard of GWSx? Know your decks dude! Promptly he accepts.

<Fowler> man
<Fowler> gws
<Duncan> know your decks dude
<Fowler> sucks my dick
<Fowler> k?
<Duncan> how can you pretend to be pro?
<Fowler> what?
<Duncan> seirous
<Duncan> fast click
<Duncan> bla bla bla
<Fowler> irl
<Duncan> misclick, dont konw decks
<Fowler> bah
<Duncan> irl what?
<Fowler> explain it is a waste of time
<Fowler> np man
<Fowler> np
<Fowler> sry

He quits, I rejoin and he accepts again:

<Fowler> man
<Fowler> what do u want
<Duncan> i want to play g2
<Fowler> u run with cards that dont know why play in ur deck
<Duncan> like?
<Fowler> bobs
<Fowler> wheel
<Fowler> and more bad cards that i cant see
<Fowler> sure
<Duncan> are u serious?
<Fowler> a lot
<Fowler> and SURE
<Duncan> you play bob?
<Fowler> i win more tournaments that u
<Fowler> yes
<Duncan> haha
<Fowler> but i dont play combo
<Duncan> i placed 2nd in GP chicago side event
<Fowler> i play control
<Duncan> 80 players
<Fowler> congrats
<Duncan> bob is major draw engine
<Duncan> to refuel combo hands
<Fowler> nope
<Duncan> tps runs out of gas, thats its flaw
<Fowler> u are wrong
<Fowler> just are wrong
<Fowler> but no problem man
<Duncan> remora should urn blue cards
<Fowler> the problem is
<Duncan> no black like bob
<System> Session Lost
<System> Disconnected

At that point I was done with it. He pretends to be all pro and serious, which he obviously is not. Stay away from this dude.

[M.Solymossy]

I smashed his ass with GWSx a short while back.  He's probably still salty about it 

[chrissss]

haha duncan.

I must say MWS is full of dicks though, half the people think they are pro, you counter one thing and they rage quit. I find it hard to find good games during the day mostly, and the number of legacy players accepting vintage games is annoying. Then you also have the rule freaks; who go insane for anything.

I haven't really come across anything worth copy pasting to TMD, but soon

[Diakonov]

Nothing too fancy here, but Krusty can go on list.


Diakonov plays Gifts Ungiven from Hand
<Diakonov> Ok?
<Krusty> ok
Diakonov is looking its Library...
Diakonov puts Time Vault into play from Library
Diakonov puts Goblin Welder into play from Library
Diakonov puts Yawgmoth's Will into play from Library
<Diakonov> Thinking
<Krusty> Ok
Diakonov puts Black Lotus into play from Library
Diakonov shuffles library
Diakonov stops looking its Library...
Krusty is now the controller of Time Vault
Krusty is now the controller of Goblin Welder
Krusty is now the controller of Yawgmoth's Will
Krusty is now the controller of Black Lotus
Krusty untaps Time Vault
<Krusty> Thinking
Krusty puts Yawgmoth's Will to Graveyard from Play
Krusty puts Goblin Welder to Graveyard from Play
Diakonov is now the controller of Black Lotus
Diakonov is now the controller of Time Vault
Diakonov puts Black Lotus to Hand from Play
Diakonov puts Time Vault to Hand from Play
Diakonov puts Gifts Ungiven to Graveyard from Play
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Diakonov untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Diakonov draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Diakonov plays Black Lotus from Hand
<Diakonov> Thinking
Diakonov taps Mox Sapphire
Diakonov taps Underground Sea
Diakonov plays Time Vault from Hand
<Diakonov> Ok?
<Krusty> Ok
Diakonov taps Island
Diakonov taps Voltaic Key
Diakonov untaps Time Vault
<Diakonov> Ok?
<Krusty> Ok
Diakonov taps Time Vault
<Diakonov> time walk
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Diakonov untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
<Diakonov> infinite turns
<Krusty> uhum
<Diakonov> should i still play it out?
<Krusty> nice deck...before...impossible to mount...ur realy, is a noob, not have capacity to mount a REAL competitive deck!
<System> Player Lost
<System> Session Lost
<System> Disconnected

[The Atog Lord]

I just played against someone calling himself "System." He advertised "T1 Serious no quitters." He then disconnected after I played a first turn Tinker. Hypocrite.

[Matt]

It seems like it would be easier to make a list of people NOT to avoid.

[Diakonov]

Either that or develop a universal "I'm not a douchebag" symbol that can be placed at the end of your tag.

[vassago]

Either that or develop a universal "I'm not a douchebag" symbol that can be placed at the end of your tag.

This is actually a good idea. I avoid MWS now because the serious amounts of douche baggery that happens there.  I havent updated my set files since morningtide due to this. If this were to become a reality, I might actually start logging back onto that program and play some games. It really is a good program but I dont think dealing with immature children or just plain @$$holes is worth my time.   I think a good symbol at the end of tags would be (++). Its small and easy to see. Maybe I might update my files and see if this proves to work.  Its worth a try I guess.

[LotusHead]

Some of us attached TMD/SCG to our handles with little success (read: random noobs don't know what those symbols mean).

I stick with Vingate: Serious but Friendly and hope for the best.

[AmbivalentDuck]

So make up a dumb acronym like IANADB, publish it here, and start using it.

Or better, make it something asinine so that people who don't know what it means won't use it.  Like...um..."Vintage with dill pickles!"

The real trick isn't picking something, it's spreading it to everyone who needs to know it and forging a community consensus.

[TracerBullet]

Rafael, who didn't seem to understand that while the Worldgorger Dragon loop is going on, you cannot play a Sorcery.


<Opponent is requesting a new game>
Rafael shuffles library
<Rafael> I am ready.
Rafael draws 0 cards
TracerBullet shuffles library
<TracerBullet> Alright chums, let's do this!
TracerBullet draws 0 cards
<-------- New Game Started -------->
TracerBullet's Security Code: 9250BBB4/sb [Type 1]
Rafael's Security Code: 9A011BD6/sb [Type 1]
It is now turn 1 (Rafael)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
TracerBullet shuffles library
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Rafael shuffles library
TracerBullet shuffles library
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
TracerBullet shuffles library
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
TracerBullet draws 7 cards
<TracerBullet> kp
<Rafael> kp
Rafael plays Flooded Strand from Hand
<Rafael> End my turn
It is now turn 2 (TracerBullet)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
TracerBullet untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
TracerBullet draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
TracerBullet plays Mishra's Workshop from Hand
TracerBullet taps Mishra's Workshop
TracerBullet plays Sol Ring from Hand
<TracerBullet> Thinking
TracerBullet plays Mana Vault from Hand
TracerBullet taps Sol Ring
TracerBullet plays Crucible of Worlds from Hand
<Rafael> Ok
<TracerBullet> End my turn
It is now turn 3 (Rafael)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Rafael untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Rafael draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Rafael plays Underground Sea from Hand
Rafael plays Mox Pearl from Hand
<Rafael> End my turn
It is now turn 4 (TracerBullet)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
TracerBullet untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
TracerBullet draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<TracerBullet> Thinking
TracerBullet plays Strip Mine from Hand
TracerBullet taps Strip Mine
Rafael taps Underground Sea
TracerBullet puts Strip Mine to Graveyard from Play
Rafael puts Underground Sea to Graveyard from Play
It is now the Combat Phase, Beginning Of Combat Step
Rafael taps Flooded Strand
Rafael sacrifices Flooded Strand
Rafael's life total is now 19 (-1)
Rafael is looking its Library...
Rafael puts Island into play from Library
Rafael shuffles library
Rafael stops looking its Library...
Rafael taps Mox Pearl
Rafael taps Island
Rafael plays Intuition from Hand
<TracerBullet> ok
Rafael is looking its Library...
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon into play from Library
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon into play from Library
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon into play from Library
Rafael shuffles library
Rafael stops looking its Library...
Rafael puts Intuition to Graveyard from Play
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon to Graveyard from Play
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon to Graveyard from Play
Rafael puts Worldgorger Dragon to Hand from Play
TracerBullet taps Mishra's Workshop
<Rafael> Ok
TracerBullet taps Sol Ring
TracerBullet plays Juggernaut from Hand
<Rafael> Ok
TracerBullet taps Mana Vault
TracerBullet plays Smokestack from Hand
<Rafael> Ok
<TracerBullet> End my turn
It is now turn 5 (Rafael)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Rafael untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Rafael draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Rafael plays Underground Sea from Hand
<Rafael> Thinking
Rafael taps Underground Sea
Rafael taps Mox Pearl
Rafael plays Animate Dead from Hand
<TracerBullet> Ok
<TracerBullet> Infinite mana


Gamestate was -


Him === Island, Underground, Mox Pearl in play.  2x Worldgorger in GY, no other creatures in any graveyards.

Plays Animate Dead

Then proceeeds to try and play Deep Analysis.

Rafael plays Deep Analysis from Hand
Rafael draws a card
Rafael draws a card
<TracerBullet> Wait!
Rafael puts Deep Analysis to RFG from Play
Rafael puts Deep Analysis into play from RFG
<Rafael> Ok
<TracerBullet> Sorcery
<Rafael> yeah and
<TracerBullet> You can't end the loop
<TracerBullet> Right now
<Rafael> yeah sure
<TracerBullet> ?
<Rafael> i dont redirect my last animate dead
<Rafael> that is
<Rafael> all my permanent are removed
<TracerBullet> ?
<Rafael> and kill the dragon and dont replace the animate dead
<Rafael> read on starcity
<Rafael> he has an audit on that
<TracerBullet> When?
<Rafael> like 3 years maybe
<TracerBullet> Sec
<Rafael> ...
<Rafael> you waste my time
<Rafael> learn the fucking rulz
<System> Player Lost


In this time, literally 15 seconds had elapsed.  Even if I were wrong (and I don't believe I am), he's still a dick.

[Implacable]

A Worldgorger return-to-play trigger is on the stack:


Implacable taps Mox Sapphire
<FarF> Ok
Implacable plays Stifle from Hand
<FarF> Ok
<Implacable> So you lose?
<FarF> i think so
<Implacable> Wel
<FarF> Well
<Implacable> All your stuff is gone, at any rate.
<FarF> are you french?
<Implacable> No, pero yo puedo hablar Espanol si es mejor.
<FarF> ah ok
<FarF> its why it smells ass
<FarF> cya noob
<System> Player Lost

I like this guy.

[policehq]

I think on conditional statements, you would use the subjunctive conjugation of "ser." That is, "si sea mejor."

[Implacable]

I think on conditional statements, you would use the subjunctive conjugation of "ser." That is, "si sea mejor."

Yeah, I was speaking as I would in English: e.g., I'd say "If it's better," even if "It would be better" would actually be correct.  But in Spanish, you'd actually use - I think - "seria" if you wanted to be correct.

[policehq]

If you used "seria" then you would use the subjunctive conjugation of "poder." Subjunctive conjugation also means "would X" but it's different.

Okay but here's tonight's round of fun with Li Ka-Shing. He may use TheManaDrain, and if so, your douchebaggery has been noted.

It is now turn 9 (Li Ka-Shing)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Li Ka-Shing untaps his/her permanents
Tangle Wire now has 2 (-1) counters.
Li Ka-Shing taps Tangle Wire
Li Ka-Shing taps Crucible of Worlds
Li Ka-Shing taps Tolarian Academy
<Li Ka-Shing> float UUUU
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
<Li Ka-Shing> into draw
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
<policehq> Ok
Li Ka-Shing untaps Mana Vault
Li Ka-Shing draws a card
<policehq> wait
Li Ka-Shing plays Barbarian Ring from Hand
<policehq> mana vault says at beginning of upkeep no?
<Li Ka-Shing> dude, read the oracle text
<policehq> okay thought mws had oracle text up
It is now turn 10 (policehq)
<policehq> what is a good source for current oracle text?
<Li Ka-Shing> www.starcitygames.com
<Li Ka-Shing> I've been playing this deck for 4 years
<Li Ka-Shing> I know how it works
<policehq> http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardsearch.php?singlesearch=Mana%20Vault
<policehq> that says beginning of upkeep
<policehq> you can untap it
<policehq> and your'e floating to draw every time
<policehq> *you're
... more Stax things from him, but no Strip lock, no Smokestack, and no Welder. Just Ensnaring Bridge, and if I can get three mana for Trinisphere, I can play more Tin Street Hooligans (as I already had in the game to destroy another Bridge). He's at 7, I'm at 19, he has 2 Barbarian Rings in graveyard and none in play, just a Crucible of Worlds. Just an 11-turn clock.
<Li Ka-Shing> it's over for you.
<Li Ka-Shing> GG
<policehq> how so?
<Li Ka-Shing> 1-0
<Li Ka-Shing> you can't attack,
<Li Ka-Shing> can't do anything
<Li Ka-Shing> I just ping you to death with barbarian
<policehq> you don't have strip yet
<Li Ka-Shing> ?
<Li Ka-Shing> gg
<Li Ka-Shing> 1-0
<System> Player Lost

[toor]

gg

advertises for serious  game. Complains when I drain his sol ring and then blow him out with daze. Leaver.

Mana Drain _AND_ Daze. I've got my eye on you now!

If I ever make it for a real life tournament i guess you will have my number.

If anyone wants to test vintage, I am usually on MWS testing (mostly PT formats but Vintage also) most afternoons (12-4 PST). You can AIM me (toor271). I am down to play pretty much any matchup.

[Implacable]

This is my ALL-TIME FAVORITE THING that Sephiroth has ever said:

"<Sephiroth> No, I am amazed how much ignorant you are."

This just happened.

[AmbivalentDuck]

We should put a ban on posting Sephiroth interactions.  Just a quick disclaimer at the top: Sephiroph lives to goad vintage players.  Maybe a list of his aliases.  Maybe.

He may outright get off on the notoriety we give him.  So what it boils down to is: who here would be caught dead jerking off Sephiroph?  'Cuz that's what posting his shit is...jerking him off.

[Lurker101]

Wombat_Patrol reads TMD and is quite a douche. I fucked up the phases on my turn 1 time and he told me to learn the rules very condescendingly and when I replied "I know the rules. I've been playing since Masques block." he told me to "stick to barbie dolls" and then he quit. Also EloB blames luck when he loses and then he rage quits.

[Cyberpunker]

This isn't about a player being a douche in the way Sephiroth is but I was playing against this guy named Vintage and I won. Then we talked about the upcoming tournament in France (Bazaar of Moxen) and he pretended to be chill and asked for my name. I gave him it and he quit when I asked him his.

Just a heads up that some people are selfish enough that they will take advantage of your general friendliness alongside your play mistakes. Now I gotta hope this won't come back and bite me in the ass.

I swear the douchebags you meet in MWS amaze me. I remember Apprentice having nicer people.

[Yare]

I swear the douchebags you meet in MWS amaze me. I remember Apprentice having nicer people.

I don't ever remember this time.

Also, I'm not really sure how giving your name out on MWS could be all that harmful. Perhaps he just got dropped?

[brianpk80]

Me as Neo.
Him/her as Nilsson, a self-described Danish T1 "tech" designer.

<Neo> Ok
<Nilsson> null rod doesnt affect mana abilities right?
Nilsson puts Mana Drain to Graveyard from Play
<Neo> It affects everything
<Neo> From an artifact
Tezzeret the Seeker now has 4 (+4) counters.
<Nilsson> no
<Neo> Yes
<Nilsson> not mana abilities
<Neo> Incorrect
<Nilsson> 2 sec
<Neo> Null Rod prevents all abilities from artifacts.
<Nilsson> im pretty sure it cant affect mana abilities
<Neo> I'm positive it does.
<Neo> Those that don't say "nonmana"
<Neo> That word is absent from Null Rod.
<Nilsson> you can say peething needle on a land
<Neo> It is part of mana denial strategies.
<Nilsson> lol
<Neo> This is very basic.
<Neo> I don't know any serious T1 players who don't know how Null Rod works.
<Nilsson> pfff, mana denial. then why would ppl play ful set of mox and mana v + c with 4 nullrods
<Neo> They don't.
<Nilsson> LOl
<Nilsson> okay
<Neo> Null Rod is the counter strategy to full power.
<Nilsson> bye
<Neo> LOL
<Nilsson> faggot
<Neo> For real
<Neo> This
<System> Player Lost

[The Atog Lord]

I was playing ALA Block on MWS. Block, not Vintage. And my opponent, Icatian Moneychanger, lectured me on wasting money on such an expensive Block deck. I didn't even know what to say.

[Marske]

@The_atog_lord,
I actually lol'd... MWS has the worst random people on it...

[AmbivalentDuck]

I'm playing Selkie Strike and have an opener of Strand, FoW, Sapphire, Null Rod, Lotus, Strip, Goyf

My opponent wins the die roll, goes Island, Crypt, Lotus, Tezzeret->Vault and passes the turn

I draw Hierarch (and thus do not have FoW online)...and he starts whining:


<t33h> g2?
AD plays Strip Mine from Hand
<AD> Not yet
AD taps Strip Mine
t33h sacrifices Island
AD puts Strip Mine to Graveyard from Play
AD plays Mox Sapphire from Hand
<t33h> g2 or not
AD plays Black Lotus from Hand
AD taps Black Lotus
AD puts Black Lotus to Graveyard from Play
AD plays Null Rod from Hand
<AD> Ok?
AD taps Mox Sapphire
<t33h> more luck and you dont live
<t33h> go on
AD plays Tarmogoyf from Hand
<AD> End my turn
<t33h> brf
<t33h> fucking LUCK
<System> Player Lost
Tarmogoyf is now 2/3

I'm the lucky one...just having disruption.  Not the one who lays a possible kill on the table turn 1.  Ironic no?