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« on: July 01, 2008, 08:26:01 am »

I have a prize for a future tournament that I have no idea of the value of and so I wanted all of your honest opinions.

First, let me give you a preview:



Now the whole deck(an entire customizable Pimp Asian Ichorid Deck)

1 Japanese Lotus Petal
1 Japanese Lion’s Eye Diamond
4 T-Chinese Cabal Therapy
2 T-Chinese Ichorid
4 T-Chinese Breaktrhough
3 S-Chinese Dread Return
3 S-Chinese Golgari Thug
4 S-Chinese Golgari Grave Troll
4 S-Chinese Stinkweed Imp
4 S-Chinese Bridge from Below
4 S-Chinese Narcomeba
1 S-Chinese (proxy) Mox Sapphire
1 S-Chinese (proxy) Black Lotus
4 S-Chinese (proxy) Bazaar of Baghdad
3 T-Chinese City of Brass
4 S-Chinese Gemstone Mine
4 S-Chinese Cephalid Colisseum
2 S-Chinese Cephalid Sage
1 T-Chinese Brainstorm
1 S-Chinese Angel of Despait
1 S-Chinese Flame Kin Zealot
4 T-Chinese Careful Study

Sideboard
4 Japanese Leyline of the Void
4 T-Chinese Chain of Vapor
4 Korean Emerald Charm(Only asian language they print it in)
2 S-Chinese Ancient Grudge
1 S-Chinese Darkblast

As for the customizable part, I have a whole bunch of extra asian stuff that the winner can swap 1 for 1 with cards in the deck to make it to his liking(Manaless Ichorid for example)
3 T-Chinese Brainstorm
2 T-Chinese Wooded Foothills
4 S-Chinese Street Wraith
1 S-Chinese Darkblast
4 S-Chinese Reverent Silence
2 S-Chinese Ancient Grudge
4 T-Chinese Serum Powder
4 S-Chinese Dryad Arbor
1 Japanese Deep Analysis
2 T-Chinese Ichorid
1 S-Chinese Dread Return
1 S-Chinese Golgari Thug
3 S-Chinese Flame Kin Zealot
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 08:55:41 am »

Honestly, I value Asian non-foil Vintage cards at 2-3 bucks more then their english counterpart.
So if said card is $5 on SCG i would call it 7-8 for the asian version.  As for the proxies, I have no idea.
That's how I would value them.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 09:33:31 am »

I'd suspect about $200. $225 if you weren't using hideous blue sleeves Razz
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 10:59:19 am »

Needs more River Kelpies.

BTW I've seen this deck in person and it's impressive to fan out.  Ichorid was a good choice because you do basically get to display your entire deck every time you play.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 01:30:08 pm »

I have a prize for a future tournament that I have no idea of the value of and so I wanted all of your honest opinions.

1 Japanese Lotus Petal   6
1 Japanese Lion’s Eye Diamond   45
4 T-Chinese Cabal Therapy   24
2 T-Chinese Ichorid   6
4 T-Chinese Breaktrhough  6
3 S-Chinese Dread Return   3
3 S-Chinese Golgari Thug   3
4 S-Chinese Golgari Grave Troll   16
4 S-Chinese Stinkweed Imp   2
4 S-Chinese Bridge from Below   20
4 S-Chinese Narcomeba   4
1 S-Chinese (proxy) Mox Sapphire
1 S-Chinese (proxy) Black Lotus
4 S-Chinese (proxy) Bazaar of Baghdad
3 T-Chinese City of Brass   15
4 S-Chinese Gemstone Mine   24
4 S-Chinese Cephalid Colisseum   12
2 S-Chinese Cephalid Sage   3
1 T-Chinese Brainstorm   3
1 S-Chinese Angel of Despair   5
1 S-Chinese Flame Kin Zealot   1
4 T-Chinese Careful Study   4

maindeck total (excluding the proxes)   $202


4 Japanese Leyline of the Void   60
4 T-Chinese Chain of Vapor   8
4 Korean Emerald Charm(Only asian language they print it in)
2 S-Chinese Ancient Grudge   1
1 S-Chinese Darkblast   2

sideboard total (excluding emerald charm)   $71


3 T-Chinese Brainstorm   9
2 T-Chinese Wooded Foothills   40
4 S-Chinese Street Wraith   4
1 S-Chinese Darkblast   2
4 S-Chinese Reverent Silence   16
2 S-Chinese Ancient Grudge   1
4 T-Chinese Serum Powder   10
4 S-Chinese Dryad Arbor   2
1 Japanese Deep Analysis   1
2 T-Chinese Ichorid   6
1 S-Chinese Dread Return   1
1 S-Chinese Golgari Thug   1
3 S-Chinese Flame Kin Zealot   3

other stuff total   $96


Some notes:
-These prices are averages of completed auctions and BIN listings on ebay using a percentage modification of what to expect from average-priced stores when only higher priced stores have current listings.
-The pictures of chinese cards you have posted are actually simplified chinese, not traditional. Traditional chinese has more marks than simplified and is generally more "blocky" whereas simplified looks more italic. The level of 'blockyness' will vary from set to set which makes it a bit more difficult for the untrained eye to distinguish the two.
-Visions was printed in three asian languages: traditional chinese, japanese, and korean.
-The reverent silences are probably worth a lot less than $4 each, but due to limited availability on ebay right now, it's hard to gauge what their true value is worth. I would guess they are about 1-2 each. Similarly, I would expect the emerald charms to be 1 each.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 05:49:26 pm »

Ray let me battle with this deck on Day 2 of Travis's Tournament and let me tell you its a sight to behold. Sooooo awesome.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 01:05:43 pm »

Am i the only person on the planet who hates non-english cards? I just hate not being able to read the cards, even if i know what they do.
Since when did unreadable = pimp? *sigh*

Anyway i have no idea how to value non-english cards.

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ps. I know everyone uses the term "foreign cards" but since english is not my mothertongue i prefer "non-english".
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 02:40:36 pm »

Am i the only person on the planet who hates non-english cards? I just hate not being able to read the cards, even if i know what they do.
Since when did unreadable = pimp? *sigh*

Anyway i have no idea how to value non-english cards.

/Zeus

ps. I know everyone uses the term "foreign cards" but since english is not my mothertongue i prefer "non-english".

You are not alone, my friend.  It might be cool if you can read the foreign language, but it's definitely not cool if you can't read japanese but have your deck pimped out in japanese anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 06:03:30 pm »

Am i the only person on the planet who hates non-english cards? I just hate not being able to read the cards, even if i know what they do.

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ps. I know everyone uses the term "foreign cards" but since english is not my mothertongue i prefer "non-english".
So you prefer English language cards over cards in your native language?
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 05:52:43 am »

Am i the only person on the planet who hates non-english cards? I just hate not being able to read the cards, even if i know what they do.

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ps. I know everyone uses the term "foreign cards" but since english is not my mothertongue i prefer "non-english".
So you prefer English language cards over cards in your native language?

There are no danish cards...and i honestly can't see how they would be translated into anything understandable Wink The phrase "Target" would be difficult to translate as the danish equilant can't be used in a sentence the way the english word can.

So yes, i would prefer english cards to danish cards if there where a choice.
It could also get confusing for my opponent if i was playing a foreigner...Seriously, besides the 5.5 million danes, who speaks danish? Smile

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