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« Reply #1140 on: September 17, 2010, 05:35:03 pm » |
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Right, I edited and removed my post and reread the card because I thought about the 4 power, then, for some reason, I came to the conclusion that my first idea was correct and assumed that phyrexian would be in play, which ofcourse would be in the yard. Long story short, RTFC to me  .This thing is coming to a   legacy Survival deck near you. Here's a legacy list I threw together: 4 Birds of Paradise
3 Korlash
4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Lotus Cobra
2 Dark Confidant
1 Triskelion
2 Necrotic Ooze
1 Phyrexian Devourer
1 Spike Weaver
3 Fauna Shaman
1 Faerie Macabre
1 Shriek Maw
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Thoughtseize
1 Genesis
1 Bloodghast
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Bayou
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Swamp
4 Forest
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The Korlash is optional, I personally like it with Lotus Cobra because you can Survival out your entire combo and have the mana to cast Ooze. Bloodghast is recurring nightmare / cabal therapy fodder Perhaps add 2 Reanimates or some Sinkholes/Hymns like Pox instead of 4 Birds AND 4 Cobras. |
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« Reply #1141 on: September 17, 2010, 11:56:55 pm » |
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Some other notable cards to think about for GB survival:
fleshbag marauder, spore frog (you have genesis main), eternal witness, sakura-tribe elder, kitchen finks, volraths stronghold, wall of roots, tarm, bone shredder, scryb ranger, darkheart sliver, veteran explorer, and vexing shusher.
I usually play gw survival and of that list I have tried out spore frog, e witness, finks, tarm, and scryb ranger for my deck. The ranger is quite the badass out of the SB vs merfolk or a deck with vend clique.
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« Reply #1142 on: September 18, 2010, 01:12:08 am » |
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Yet another 3 creature combo for Ooze:
Ooze, Kiki-Jiki, Mogg Fanatic -> Copy Ooze repeatedly, and after tapping him, sacrifice him to ping.
Mogg Fanatic may be slightly more or less useful in a Survival deck since he's more easily cast than Triskelion, it doesn't matter if he's in the graveyard, and he offers Bridge from Below hate.
EDIT": don't read this. please. unless you add lightning greaves, it doesn't work until you pass the turn.
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« Reply #1143 on: September 18, 2010, 01:41:20 am » |
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Yet another 3 creature combo for Ooze:
Ooze, Kiki-Jiki, Mogg Fanatic -> Copy Ooze repeatedly, and after tapping him, sacrifice him to ping.
Mogg Fanatic may be slightly more or less useful in a Survival deck since he's more easily cast than Triskelion, it doesn't matter if he's in the graveyard, and he offers Bridge from Below hate.
EDIT": don't read this. please. unless you add lightning greaves, it doesn't work until you pass the turn.
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« Reply #1144 on: September 18, 2010, 03:10:56 am » |
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Nim Deathmantle  Artifact - Equipment Equipped creature has +2/+2, Intimidate and is a black Zombie. Whenever a nontoken creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, you may pay  . If you do, return that card to the battlefield under you control and attach ~this~ to it. Equip People have already posted that this creates an infinite mana combo (of any color) with Composite Golem but I am way more excited about the chance to finally break Thoughtpicker Witch. For  mana a turn, we can now exile every relevant card our opponent is about to draw.
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« Reply #1145 on: September 18, 2010, 05:40:21 pm » |
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« Reply #1146 on: September 18, 2010, 06:29:55 pm » |
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Too bad it is an irrelevant Elemental. Some sort of tribal synergy could have helped push the power level.
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« Reply #1147 on: September 18, 2010, 08:00:12 pm » |
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I'm pretty sure this is an anti-Scapeshift card.
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« Reply #1148 on: September 18, 2010, 08:40:37 pm » |
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I wonder if there will be any possibility of triggering it in Scars, or in Scars block...? I'm all for inter-block design, but it kinda sucks this is in a rare slot. I'd bet there will be plenty of unhappy drafters seeing a 2/1 for 2 as their rare in the first pack. I suppose on the other hand it might have been too limiting and unfun in Zendikar, since landfall was supposed to reward for doing something they want to do anyway.
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #1149 on: September 18, 2010, 09:09:02 pm » |
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I wonder if there will be any possibility of triggering it in Scars, or in Scars block...? I'm all for inter-block design, but it kinda sucks this is in a rare slot. I'd bet there will be plenty of unhappy drafters seeing a 2/1 for 2 as their rare in the first pack. I suppose on the other hand it might have been too limiting and unfun in Zendikar, since landfall was supposed to reward for doing something they want to do anyway.
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« Reply #1150 on: September 18, 2010, 09:23:37 pm » |
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To continue the war on fetches... Guess they're gonna unrestrict Gush |
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"After these years of arguing I've conceded that Merchant Scroll in particular can be an exception to this rule because it is a card that you NEVER want to see in multiples, under any circumstances. Merchant Scroll can be seen as restricted in a way because should you have 2 in a hand, only one is really useful (that is, only one can get Ancestral)."
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« Reply #1151 on: September 18, 2010, 10:42:31 pm » |
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Mana ramp is a deck in standard...
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« Reply #1152 on: September 19, 2010, 09:59:42 pm » |
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I'm pretty sure it's part of their plan to slow Standard down (I forget which article mentions it, I think it was the one with the spoiler for the new land) So Tunnel Ignus is nothing but part of that plan.
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I haev a first turn Llanowar Elf. He casts Ancestral, a slightly stronger card from the same set.
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« Reply #1153 on: September 19, 2010, 11:43:06 pm » |
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To continue the war on fetches... Guess they're gonna unrestrict Gush DAMN good call. (I called it too =) ) |
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« Reply #1154 on: September 21, 2010, 03:51:13 am » |
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Molten Psyche 1rr
Sorcery Rare
Each player shuffles the cards from his or her hand into his or her library, then draws that many cards.
Metalcraft - If you control three or more artifacts, Molten Psyche deals damage to each opponent equal to the number of cards that player has drawn this turn.
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« Reply #1155 on: September 21, 2010, 05:18:27 am » |
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Molten Psyche 1rr
Sorcery Rare
Each player shuffles the cards from his or her hand into his or her library, then draws that many cards.
Metalcraft - If you control three or more artifacts, Molten Psyche deals damage to each opponent equal to the number of cards that player has drawn this turn.
Sure, it's not Wheel of Fortune, but it's unbann....unrestricted. LOL Winds of Change
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« Reply #1156 on: September 21, 2010, 01:18:21 pm » |
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WOW
So does the damage portion count for cards drawn before Molten was casted??? Do multiple instances of Molten stack? If so, a Draw 7 deck sounds pretty vulgar right now, you can kill your opponent with just the draw 7s, much less the Tendrils. Lotus Cobra/Gush with Moltens as a kill.....
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"After these years of arguing I've conceded that Merchant Scroll in particular can be an exception to this rule because it is a card that you NEVER want to see in multiples, under any circumstances. Merchant Scroll can be seen as restricted in a way because should you have 2 in a hand, only one is really useful (that is, only one can get Ancestral)."
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« Reply #1157 on: September 21, 2010, 01:33:34 pm » |
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WOW
So does the damage portion count for cards drawn before Molten was casted??? Do multiple instances of Molten stack? If so, a Draw 7 deck sounds pretty vulgar right now, you can kill your opponent with just the draw 7s, much less the Tendrils. Lotus Cobra/Gush with Moltens as a kill.....
If you were going for such an idea, Cerebral Vortex would actually draw you cards normally, pitch to Force, and wouldn't require Metalcraft. It's also instant speed, so it can nail them during their turn after Jace activations...etc. (Actually, I think it's been pretty playable for a while.) Although, it would not deal 7 extra damage post draw 7. So Molten would deal 5 damage more than Vortex (pretty big) and not require giving them extra cards if it doesn't kill them immediately. |
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« Reply #1158 on: September 21, 2010, 01:35:41 pm » |
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Vortex is the sex against bargain or necro.
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« Reply #1159 on: September 21, 2010, 01:39:41 pm » |
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Vortex is the sex against bargain or necro.
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« Reply #1160 on: September 21, 2010, 01:40:36 pm » |
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Vortex is the sex against bargain or necro.
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« Reply #1161 on: September 21, 2010, 01:40:46 pm » |
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It is probably too cute an idea but it seems hilarious to basically Draw 7 someone to death.
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"After these years of arguing I've conceded that Merchant Scroll in particular can be an exception to this rule because it is a card that you NEVER want to see in multiples, under any circumstances. Merchant Scroll can be seen as restricted in a way because should you have 2 in a hand, only one is really useful (that is, only one can get Ancestral)."
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« Reply #1162 on: September 21, 2010, 01:52:07 pm » |
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More Anti-Oath tech to compete with Blasting Station, Claws of Gix, High Market, and Phyrexian Tower:  |
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« Reply #1163 on: September 21, 2010, 02:22:37 pm » |
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Vortex is the sex against bargain or necro.
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« Reply #1164 on: September 21, 2010, 06:16:45 pm » |
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More Anti-Oath tech to compete with Blasting Station, Claws of Gix, High Market, and Phyrexian Tower: Thats pretty good. I like Spawning pit though because if you aready have a token or two, this card will not be able to keep up with their orchard since it can only be used once per turn. It is nice though to be able to use it to draw cards off those tokens |
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« Reply #1166 on: September 22, 2010, 01:10:29 am » |
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Well, the blue spellbomb sucks but the Black is sweet, hurray.
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"After these years of arguing I've conceded that Merchant Scroll in particular can be an exception to this rule because it is a card that you NEVER want to see in multiples, under any circumstances. Merchant Scroll can be seen as restricted in a way because should you have 2 in a hand, only one is really useful (that is, only one can get Ancestral)."
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« Reply #1167 on: September 22, 2010, 04:33:13 am » |
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 A disenchant that exiles. Not bad. |
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« Reply #1168 on: September 22, 2010, 07:59:54 am » |
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I think non-Stax LD could actually become viable after this set.
Plus, all the terrible jank decks I have played in the past just got upgraded. What a great set.
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