1st place - MOX JET - Boulder, Colorado

[DoubleDrain]

Hello

32 players came to battle it out for a mox jet, grim tutor, underground sea, and savannah here in beautiful Boulder, CO. Ed from Time Warp Comics hosted this smoothly-run event, and even procured artists Dan Frazier and Douglas Schuler as a bonus.

I played a version of Ad Nauseam inspired by Steve's list and tuned with the help of Jim and Lou from Team Meandeck. I took the basic core of the deck and 'trimmed the fat' just enough to play 4 Dark Confidant. I have loved this guy for a long time now, having had a bit of success with various iterations of "Bob Long," and so I wanted to try to fit him in here.

Bob Nauseam

4 Ad Nauseam
4 Dark Confidant
4 Dark ritual
4 thoughtsieze
3 chain of vapor
3 tendrils of agony
3 cabal ritual
2 duress
1 hurkyls recall
1 ancestral recall
1 brainstorm
1 ponder
1 mystical tutor
1 demonic tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 demonic consultation
1 imperial seal
1 yawgmoth's will

4 chrome mox
1 black lotus
1 lotus petal
1 sol ring
1 mana vault
1 mana crypt
1 mox jet
1 mox sapphire

3 swamp
2 island
4 polluted delta
3 underground sea

Sideboard:

4 smother
1 sundering titan
1 tinker
3 yxlid jailer
2 cabal therapy
2 tormod's crypt
1 echoing truth
1 hurkyl's recall


A lot of people have given 'Bob' a hard time, saying he doesn't effect the board for a while (kind of like somkestack), however most people who've had him stick around for a while can't deny the boot he provides (again, a bit like smokey). His effect is like a one-shot-per-turn ad nauseam, which also swings, gum's up combat, and occasionally flashes back cabal therapy. While basically horrible in the mirror, or against any other super fast deck, Bob is great in those matchups where the games are expected to go for a few turns (fish, stax, bomerman, drain decks, etc.).

I think everything else in the list I played worked great, so even without the 4 Bobs the core of the list is very robust. Those 4 slots could become almost anything, though if the field were full of combo, i would cut at least 2 bobs or 1 hurkyls + 1 chain for 2 more duress, since i feel that other than winning the die roll, hand disruption is the second biggest influence in who wins the mirror.

Round 1 vs. Jordan (bye)

He was a nice guy and newer player who came to Time Warp looking for a tournie, but not knowing anything about type 1. Needless to say, his 80ish card sealed deck was no match for me, as I won the die roll and killed him on turn 2. Game 2 he cast a 1/1 on turn 1 and an odeous troll on turn 2 before I killed him.

Round 2 vs. Kylie

Another new face and nice guy. G1: I duress him turn 1 after I loose the roll and see time walk, force of will, time vault, abayance, wasteland, and something else. I take timevault and get abayenced on my turn 2 upkeep, but I just drop island and Bob. Bob draws me 1 or 2 cards before he goes farming, and I eventually resolve Ad Naus for the win around turn 4-5. He played a null rod the turn after the abayence, preventing me from winning until I could find a ritual.

G2: This one was not really close, as he forces my EOT mystical and then I resolve tinker for titan, killing his only colored mana and eventually munching down 2 cannonists before getting me there.

Round 3 vs. Corey with TPS

He is a local Team Warp guy and one of the better players all around (he made day 2 at GP Denver), and is always at the top of the limited tables. He hasn't been playing vintage for very long, but is learning fast. I predict him to be one of the better t1 players around CO given just a bit of time.

My notes are a bit poor here, but I know he wins game 1 off turn 1 & 2 duress effects, then a lethal Desire into a Tendrils. Game 2 sees me getting a turn 1 thoughtsieze after he mulled to 5, at which point he couldn't stop the turn 3 Ad Naus FTW. Game 3 he goes all in on a turn 1 memory jar, emptying his hand of all but 1 card, but floating 5 black mana (!). Lucky for me, he rips 3 moxen, then burns for 5. Jar loads my yard with rituals and demonic, and I win on turn 2 after tutoring up will with imp seal. Bad beats  on that Jar Corey - you totally should have won that one...

R4 & R5: I do the old double draw with Brennen and Matt.

Top 8: Matt with Gobbos.

G1: He plays first and drops lackey, who then trades with my t1 bob (i was afraid of earwig squad, but I shouldn't have blocked). He then drops null rod turn 2, preventing me from ever getting to 5 mana in time to cast Ad Naus. I die to some little red beats.
G2: I thoughtsieze him t1 seeing ruby, fanatic, piledriver, matron, ringleader, mtx x2. I take the ruby, and he rips jet and drops pile. i take a few beats and go to 14 before I manage to resolve a pretty stacked will, but I was worried that he might have drawn an extirpate or faerie macabe. Turns out he had nothing and I get there.

G3 was the most exciting and memorable game of the day for me. He agonizes over his keep while i think about my various lines of play. My hand is dark rit x3, petal, tendrils, cabal rit, and mox jet. I figure I loose to null rod, but I win if he doesn't have it. He starts with mtn, lotus, pyrostatic pillar, pyrostatic pillar! He drops to 18, and suddenly I can't cast much without dying as each card I play fireblasts me. As luck would have it, I rip Timker! I then cast jet and dark ritual x3 into tendrils for 10 life, leaving the totals at 14 to 8 in my favor. I still have 3 black floating, so I drop petal and tinker for titan, nuking his land and sending me down to 5 after manaburning for 1. Luckly, his two pillars prevent him from dropping enough chumps before titan ended it. Whew!!

Top 4: Carl with Ad Naus

Carl is a real nice guy who runs the other Denver area type 1 events down at his store Black Gold. He posted a report as well, where he pretty much covers the details. I get rolled turn 1 or 2 in game 1, then get a bit lucky as Carl fizzles by 1 mana in game 2, buying me the time to thoughtsieze my way back into the game. I remember keeping very suspect hands in the first two games, but keep a pretty good one in game 3 which gets me there after drawing around 14 cards with Ad Naus. These games could have gone either way...

Finals: Adam with Bomerman.

Adam is one of the top players at Black Gold, and almost always finishes in the money at these events. G1: I win the roll and get turn 1 bob, who provides plenty of cards for my tendrils win. G2: he cracks a turn 1 lotus for an augery adept instead of leaving mana up for his double drains. This turns out to be his undoing, as he can't stop my turn 1 chain on the adept + bob. bob draws lots of cards while he misses his 3rd & 4th land drops, and I win on my turn 4 with an uncontested Ad Naus.

I win a signed unlimited mox jet!

Props:

All the colorado crew who showed up, except bob and scott who were MIA
My opponents for being nice guys and great fun to battle
Ad Nauseam for being redic
Dark Confidant for being great at any cost
Jim and Lou for the testing and list tweaking
Ed and Timewarp for hosting a great event
Dan Frazier and Douglas Schular for signing my cards

[aosquirrels]

Travis: This morning I tested Dark Confidants and found them fairly awesome.  I will try them again this coming Thursday night when I play at my store.  My Chromatic Sphere tech is not right.

Great job finishing first!

[JewLightning]

Congratulations Trav! Way to take it down proving that the Crew are still the top dogs of CO. I am going to barn your post a little bit for my props and slops. Since I will not be writing a tournament report due to my greed.

Props:

First off Misty deserves the first props for making top 8 at her first Vintage tournament. She will be the the first female Vintage champion.
Trav for taking it down even though I am not sold on Bobs in this deck quite yet.
Ad Nauseam for being the most ridiculous unrestricted card.
Lou for getting his first punch in the game of Sandwich Punch
Conley Woods for building the deck Misty used to top eight.
The Colorado Crew for being the best testing partners one could ask for.
Dobby for calming down after he was going to hit that guy in the head with a chair.
Adam for taking second at the event. I wish I would have had the opportunity to play you.
Carl for realizing that Tendrils really is the best win condition.
Shaun Piazza for giving me some great games.
Ed for hosting one of the best tournaments ever.
The artists who all showed up to sign cards and doodle on play mats.
Doug Shuler for drawing the most badass Demonic Tutor on my play mat.

Slops:

Bob Yu and Scott Limoges. Where were you at bitches? Bob was supposed to astound us with his mediocrity.
Lou for punching my sandwich which was sitting on a giant rock which nearly broke his hand.
Albert for stinking up the store all day. It was so disgusting. Have some damn manners.
My greed for not allowing me to know when to mulligan a hand.
Dobby for threatening to hit that dude with the chair. Not cool bro.
Jim for not offering me a mustache ride all weekend.

This was a great event and I can't wait until Ed has the next one. Next time I won't be blinded by greed and will mulligan when necessary especially in a top 8 match.

Brennen

[Syvanis]

Dobby needs to control his anger issues and learn how to play magic in a tournament setting. He should have been banned from the tourny.

From the Penalty Guide:

145.   Unsporting Conduct — Aggressive Behavior
Definition
A player acts in a threatening way towards others or their property.
Examples
A.   A player threatens to hit another player who won’t concede to them.
B.   A player pulls a chair out from under another player, causing her to fall to the ground.
C.   A player makes threats against a judge after receiving a ruling.
D.   A player tears up a card belonging to another player.
E.   A player intentionally turns over a table.

Philosophy
The safety of all people at a tournament is of paramount importance. There will be no tolerance of physical abuse or intimidation.
Penalty
All Levels
Disqualification

The offender should be asked to leave the venue by the organizer.


The dude was being an ass and was pissed off at his own short comings. We don't need that type of player at tournaments.

[TheAlmightyGnat]

Makes me happy to see a good player take away the Jet. Makes me wish I was still in Boulder, but I'm busy in cali. Shit, maybe when you guys are getting ready for the Lotus or Ancestral tourny, I'll road trip out there with some dank cali buds. Show you guys the power of Dragon fueled by OG.
But again, congrats Travis. Playing broken decks leads to wins.

[aosquirrels]

Can we get Ed to post the T8 decklists and also a metagame breakdown? 

[JACO]

Travis, congratulations on a nice tournament win!

I've got a few questions for you about your list, and how some cards and matchups played out.
1) How was the 4 Thoughtseize/2 Duress split for you, in combination with Dark Confidant? Based on the life loss to Confidant and Ad Nauseam I would be leaning more towards 4 Duress/2 Thoughtseize, in order to see more cards.
2) Were the 4 Smother's in the sideboard primarily a plan against Fish decks, or specific creatures you were worried about?
3) In regards to Dark Confidant, weren't there games where you just wanted to Ad Nauseam out before Confidant made a difference? I love Confidant, as everyone here can attest to, so I'm curious to how your opening hands and lines of play were with him, as well as the loss of life from cards he revealed. You never mentioning taking 5 or 4 off him (revealing say, Ad Nauseam or Tendrils).
4) You mentioned in 2 games that Null Rod was (relatively) effective. Was this a real concern only against Goblins because of the imminent clock? How good was Null Rod at limiting your lines of play?

[Godot]

Congrats again Trav.  Bob is still ass though.

[DoubleDrain]

Travis, congratulations on a nice tournament win!

I've got a few questions for you about your list, and how some cards and matchups played out.
1) How was the 4 Thoughtseize/2 Duress split for you, in combination with Dark Confidant? Based on the life loss to Confidant and Ad Nauseam I would be leaning more towards 4 Duress/2 Thoughtseize, in order to see more cards.
2) Were the 4 Smother's in the sideboard primarily a plan against Fish decks, or specific creatures you were worried about?
3) In regards to Dark Confidant, weren't there games where you just wanted to Ad Nauseam out before Confidant made a difference? I love Confidant, as everyone here can attest to, so I'm curious to how your opening hands and lines of play were with him, as well as the loss of life from cards he revealed. You never mentioning taking 5 or 4 off him (revealing say, Ad Nauseam or Tendrils).
4) You mentioned in 2 games that Null Rod was (relatively) effective. Was this a real concern only against Goblins because of the imminent clock? How good was Null Rod at limiting your lines of play?

JACO thanks for the post.

1) 4 thoughtsieze/2 duress split was because I was worried about a bunch of fish (which I pretty much dodged). I had to cut 2 duress to fit in the Dark Confidants, but in a more combo heavy field I would make room for the extra 2. The life loss never mattered, as I always pretty much won with a healthy life total (I think the lowest life I ever cast Ad Naus was 14, and I still drew like 9 cards before hitting the Ad Naus to put me to 1).

2) Again, I was worried about fish decks, and also gobbos, goyf, etc, but mostly Gaddock Teeg, cannonist, and meddling mage. I would have run some sort of mass removal if i could find anything better than infest, massacre, or engineered explosives, but between the smothers and chains I figured that any 'silver bullet' dorks would leave play at EOT and I could combo out unopposed. I have no testing to back this idea up, but it seemed unexpected, so I thought why not...

3) I would always prefer to cast Ad Naus first turn, or anytime for that matter, but even when it is in the opening 7 it isn't always castable till turn 2 or 3, especially if you plan to disrupt the opponent or spend mana tutoring, etc. A favorite play of mine is to simply dark ritual into thoughtsieze/duress + dark confidant. I think of Dark Confidant as a 'once per turn' Ad Naus, but would always prefer to just cast Naus. At no time was I worried about the damage from Bob adding up to lethal, since the games didn't go very long, for one reason or another, after he was in play. I think once I flipped an Ad Naus off a Bob (and probably also a tendrils), but really, playing dark confidant carries the EXACT risks of dying as does Ad Naus.

4) Null rod was annoying as it slowed me down by at least 2 turns in the games it was relevant. Against my round 2 opponent, he wasn't putting much pressure on me, so I had time to draw into a ritual for the Ad Naus (for the chain-into-tendrils play I think). However, in my top 8 match against Gobbos, the null rod def. won him the game, as I was manascrewed just enough to where I was unable to cast anything in the 3 or so turns it took for him to swarm me with dooods. Conclusion: Null rod + clock = bad news, but hey we all knew that already so it kinda goes without saying.


@ Godot: I know you and most of the community think Bob's are ass. You could replace those 4 slots with just about anything and the deck will still perform, simply because Ad Naus is sick (he he). Someday before they restrict Ad Naus someone will find the perfect cards to fill that slot, but in the meantime play what feels right. I wanted another angle to attack from, and so I played Bobs, but go with whatever tilts your whirl...

[NicolaeAlmighty]

Bob is still ass though.

Yeah... All those times he secured a win or just developed the board position enough to do so. I love how people continue to diss Confi and then proceed to watch it win... again and again and again.

Great job! Quite an innovative way to take the AN idea.

[JewLightning]

Dobby needs to control his anger issues and learn how to play magic in a tournament setting. He should have been banned from the tourny.

From the Penalty Guide:

145.   Unsporting Conduct — Aggressive Behavior
Definition
A player acts in a threatening way towards others or their property.
Examples
A.   A player threatens to hit another player who won’t concede to them.
B.   A player pulls a chair out from under another player, causing her to fall to the ground.
C.   A player makes threats against a judge after receiving a ruling.
D.   A player tears up a card belonging to another player.
E.   A player intentionally turns over a table.

Philosophy
The safety of all people at a tournament is of paramount importance. There will be no tolerance of physical abuse or intimidation.
Penalty
All Levels
Disqualification

The offender should be asked to leave the venue by the organizer.


The dude was being an ass and was pissed off at his own short comings. We don't need that type of player at tournaments.

I was sitting right there and the whole time the guy sitting next to Dobby was antagonizing him which is no excuse for acting the way he did. The guy he was playing was also super shady he took at least five minutes just to go land pass. It was bullshit just to get the draw because he couldn't win. Dobby didn't get banned so expect him at the next one.

Brennen

[Mr. Type 4]

So you never got into any dicey situations where you have Bob out, cast Ad Naus, take a couple hits, have to quit on like 3 life but arent able to win right away so Bob might kill you next turn?

I feel like in such an agressive deck that I'd rather have Night's Whisper, or is the mere presence of Bob being there just plain disruptive?  I know that I get on the defensive really fast when my opponent plays Bob. 

[Syvanis]

@ Brennen

Hey, I am the guy that Dobby wanted to hit. Up until the very end of the match the only people that were there was me, dobby, his opponent and Bill the unofficial judge that was watching the match. I never antagonized him until after the match was finished. I said two things during the match.

One: Gush needs two islands, not two lands.

Two: You cannot reorganize the order of your graveyard because of cards like corpse dance. (after Bill had told him that)

If you call telling a guy an answer to his question and supporting a judge call "antagonizing" a player I have to disagree with you.

Second his opponent was not at all "shady" I watched the last 10 minutes of the game. His opponent was mana screwed with one Island. He needed a white source so he could cast a canonist as a blocker. He drew looked at his card and passed the turn each time. It was Dobby that reorganized his graveyard, tried to return a wasteland for gush, claimed that Sundering Titan didn't hit his lands, cast something during his upkeep and then tried to untap again, was rude and angry.

I fully admit, that after the game was finished and Dobby jumped up and aggressive berated his opponent, I said something. I called him an asshole. I told him what he was doing wrong. He apparently can't handle the truth of his own short comings. I admit that I could have been more cordial and explained it to him rather then accusing him, but he was the one that jumped up and started being a dick. I just called it like I saw it.

After Ed gave him a us warning and threatened anyone that caused trouble with a DQ Dobby proudly claimed "Wouldn't be the first time!"

My point is that we don't need that type of player at tournaments. First of all he needs to control his anger. He made enough misplays to get a game loss, but then tried to throw all the blame for the tie on his opponent. It is possible that his opponent took longer in the earlier games I didn't see that, but the game I saw Dobby certainly took 80% of the game time. From my observation both players were playing a deck that was new to them. I know his opponent was because he told me. I assume Dobby was because he had asked to borrow cards from me before the tournament. Which I said I would.

Second of All he needs to learn how to play in a tournament. He needs to know all the rules of correct play. I understand what it is like playing a new deck. I can also understand making play mistakes especially when you are frustrated. But you need to own up to your mistakes not take it out on others.

Finally, I was told, I don't know this for a fact, that he has been kicked out of more than one tournament for Aggressive Behavior before. If that is the case then he obviously has a huge problem. He can't handle losing and needs to find a different hobby that allows fighting.

Brennen I have no issues with you. If you are his friend than I encourage you to help him learn how to lose graciously and help him to learn all the rules you need to know for a tournament. I hope in the future all of us can have a fun tourny. I won't hold a grudge against him.

Jerry

[JewLightning]

Yeah I am his friend that's why I grabbed him and dragged him outside before he could say anymore stupid shit. I have no grudge against you either, I do not even know you so I am completely cool with you. It was the earlier games when his opponent was taking forever just to pass the turn. He needed an out to Sundering Titan and didn't draw one, but continued to just stare at his hand and after a few minutes he would pass after making no play at all. He was not in fact disqualified in the incident he was referring too. He received a game loss in the top 8 of a PTQ because he dropped the bottom card off his deck when he presented and his opponent called judge and the judge ruled that it was an illegal deck. His opponent then proceeded to harass him and tell him that he didn't have a chance anyway and that was when Dobby flipped at which time I calmed him down again. He does need to control his anger and I will try to help him towards doing this. This is supposed to be a game after all and not some life or death situation. I believe part of the fault was mine also. We built a deck that had 4 Goyfs, but one Tropical Island moments before the tournament started so his deck was in fact a pile, and also I should have found English copies of the cards that he was using he had a bunch of foreign stuff in his deck because that's usually all I have, and he doesn't know his type 1 cards as well as his standard cards so this could lead to some misunderstandings. I hope he learns to calm down because Time Warp is one of the most fun environments to play cards and it would be a shame if he got kicked out. He is a great testing partner and great player. It would suck to have the competition level go down and we lose a person due to stupid incidents such as this.

Brennen

P.S. I think I have spent more time writing this post than on my homework all week 
 

[Syvanis]

Peace!

I am glad to hear it. I hope next time goes a lot better.

Sorry to all the others that had to deal with it.

Jerry

[DoubleDrain]

So you never got into any dicey situations where you have Bob out, cast Ad Naus, take a couple hits, have to quit on like 3 life but arent able to win right away so Bob might kill you next turn?

I feel like in such an agressive deck that I'd rather have Night's Whisper, or is the mere presence of Bob being there just plain disruptive?  I know that I get on the defensive really fast when my opponent plays Bob. 

Paul

I never got into any situations where I didn't just win after casting Ad Naus. I think once I was close to dying off the Ad Naus, but flipped demonic tutor or something. I never once passed the turn after casting Ad Naus.

If I can get a Bob to stick, there is my win condition right there... not only must the opponent worry about the possibility of Ad Naus, but in the meantime they need to deal with Bob as soon as they can, for otherwise Bob will win the game by himself.

[Smmenen]

Nice work Travis.   

Bob is counterintuitively good in here.   Any deck that runs 3-4 Tendrils is probably gonna be decent with Bob.   I admit I dismissed Bob without thinking it all the way through.   Congrats on the finish. 

[DoubleDrain]

From Adam's report in Carl's thread:

"Finals:  Travis --  Bob Nauseam
We discuss a split, but can't figure out a good way to split it.  We decide to play.  I feel pretty good about it, knowing he's playing Ad Nauseam combo.
Game 1:  He drops an early bob.  Bob beats me for a bit, while revealing Mox, Dark Rit, and Tendrils.  Tendrils finishes me off.
Game 2:  I certanly make a couple play mistakes here.  It's 8:30, and I'm just ready to be done.  I keep a very suspect hand, and proceed to play it badly.  I go turn 1 Lotus, Augury Adept, land, pass.  I look down at my hand as he's drawing, and realize that I forgot to play my Mystic Remora.  I'm now holding nothing as he bounces my adept, and drops a turn 1 bob.  Failure to draw a third mana does me in as Bob beats me down.
I haven't playtested against this deck with Bobs, so maybe it was just bad luck, but usually when playing against Ad Nauseam, I feel like I'm playing the entire game on the edge, but I always feel like I'm on top.  Here, the Bobs quickly had me off balance, and I was playing the whole game from behind.  Good job, Travis."


I just wanted to reiterate how much I like Dark Confidant, and how both games I got an overwhelming advantage from his presence.

Would you play a card that was 1B and drew you 3 cards, while dealing 6 damage to your opponent (and, say 6 damage to you)? That was the effect of Bob in game 1 here. Such a situation is quite common with the card.

When one interprets/translates the effect of dark confidant in terms of cards drawn and damage done to self/opponent, the results are quite interesting. While I have little documented evidence such as what Adam wrote about our game 1, I have enough testing and intuition to know that the 1B I spend to summon Bob will on average translate into at least a Night's wisper + fireblast.

Seems like a great use of 2 mana in a deck trying to tendrils the opponent out.

[aosquirrels]

I usually don't post my opinions on cards but this deck has really got me excited about Magic again. 

I was intrigued with your list Travis so I used Dark Confidants (in place of X Swarms) in my sideboard this past Thursday night and went 4-0!.  Bob was key in my game three win in the last round against B/W Control.  I even took 5 from revealing AN in that game.  My point here is that I believe Dark Confidant belongs in this deck.  Although I prefer them in the board.  I guess it boils down to simple economics - cost vs. reward.  The cc of Bob is outweighed by the reward given - more wins!

[mtg247]

Good job brother. I still wish I had you for a test partner. Always good games.

[Fall-Titan]

Brennen, I'm curious as to what deck Misty used of mine to top8 with.

Also congrats to Trav for winning some power, For an update of K.C. I took home some money as I have in every GP I have attended but had a horible day 2.. so oh well

Sounds like a fun tourney though, sucks to have missed it.

Conley

[JewLightning]

Brennen, I'm curious as to what deck Misty used of mine to top8 with.

Also congrats to Trav for winning some power, For an update of K.C. I took home some money as I have in every GP I have attended but had a horible day 2.. so oh well

Sounds like a fun tourney though, sucks to have missed it.

Conley

She top 8ed with the GWB deck you played at Carl's last non-proxy tournament. There were just a few minor changes.

Brennen

[Smmenen]

Travis:  Was the entire top 8 posted anywhere?   I don't think this top 8 was ever put up on morphling.de. 

[DoubleDrain]

Steve,

I don't think any of the top 8's for these events have been posted... I know Ed has been really busy with trying to leave for his Florida Trail trip, and furthermore we have not had more than 32 players for these events since the first one, so I don't think he was intending to post them.

I just won the Time Vault on the event on the 4th, using a similar list from the first event (+/- a few cards). I would post my list, but due to the request of teammates I must respectfully refuse.

Thanks!


Travis

[Smmenen]

Travis,

A couple of things:

First of all, the Mana Drain has begun using a Player Rankings system.  So long as you have over 17 players, each person who makes top 8 will accumulate points over the course of the year, and prizes will be awarded at the end of the year, not to mention bragging rights.  I STRONGLY suggest that you post the top 8.  You'll be the first person with TMD points!

Secondly, if the owner doesn't want to post the top 8s or doesn't have the time (which I call BS - it takes me about 15 minutes to type up top 8 decklists, it's just laziness not to), I would ask him to give the lists to someone who will.   

 

[M.Solymossy]

I agree with Steve.   At every tournament  I go to, I always offer to take top 8 lists to post myself, and sometimes the organizers refuse, so they can post them, but more often than not, they're willing to give it to you.

[pierce]

jewlighting has the time vault tournament t8 lists. If he doesnt get that up (he claims to be writing a TO report) I can post the second place fish list, and my fourth place TPS list. The rest of the t8 was bomberman, mennendian's R/G beatz deck, two dredge, meandeck tezz, and Travis won the thing with Ad Nasaum w/ bobs and w/ green for goyfs.

as for the october event, it was 4 ad nas, 1 mono red goblins, 2 ichorid, and a bomberman.

Thats the best I can do from the top of my head. I did not collect the lists from ed. HOwever, since it is jewlighting and I planning these things now, I will do my best to post t8 lists from here on out.

[Duncan]

Travis,

A couple of things:

First of all, the Mana Drain has begun using a Player Rankings system.  So long as you have over 17 players, each person who makes top 8 will accumulate points over the course of the year, and prizes will be awarded at the end of the year, not to mention bragging rights.  I STRONGLY suggest that you post the top 8.  You'll be the first person with TMD points!

Secondly, if the owner doesn't want to post the top 8s or doesn't have the time (which I call BS - it takes me about 15 minutes to type up top 8 decklists, it's just laziness not to), I would ask him to give the lists to someone who will.   

 

What is this Player Ranking System and where can i find more about this?

[Smmenen]

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=37059.0

[JewLightning]

I'm not going to lie I am pretty lazy, but I will try my hardest to get these posted up one of these days I have been busy with work and trying to prepare to go back to school along with my girlfriend's Grandmother battling cancer, but I will try my hardest to post these today if I have a spare few moments.

Brennen