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« on: March 14, 2009, 11:43:48 am » |
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I know flash is restricted and may not be useful in deck in any other way and rector can't be summoner's pacted but Flash+Rector Academy gives us for 1U instant access to yawgmoth's bargain or any other expensive enchantment in our deck (dream halls, future sight, mind over matter or wathever...) most of them should be instat win.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2009, 11:58:01 am » |
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The large problem with this is that you can only play one flash, and you have no way to search out a rector to get it into your hand. Flash worked well with hulk because you could pact for the hulk should that be needed. You have no way to search out the rector in this deck to put your enchantments into play. If you want a deck that puts enchantments into play you would almost be better suited to just play a replenish deck. You can use bazaars and thirsts or the likes to ditch them into your yard, then replenish them when the time was right. However that is a completely graveyard reliant strategy, which can be very weak in many matches, as most people run some answer to graveyard strategies.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 12:21:20 pm » |
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Rector-Trix/Rector-Tendrils worked fine without flash....My only question is:
Why play this over Ad nauseam, belcher, long, dragon, TPS?
A rector deck would by definition have to be a Combo-Control deck (it's not fast enough to go for "pure combo")...So that means that it would have to compete with Dragon and TPS....Both of which i consider superior.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2009, 02:02:41 pm » |
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Thanks for your explanations, I just came out with the idea and guessed if there was any way to abuse it.
never really understood how academy rector with his awful cost could came fairly into play (and the need for something to kill it: cabal therapy/diabolic edit/innocent blood) and be succeful.
They were control decks, ok...
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2009, 11:37:02 am » |
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rector tendrils was pretty clearly pure combo. without brainstorm it doesn't work though, unfortunately, because the only thing really worth rectoring out is bargain. Futuresight can get you there, but bargain is really where it's at.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 09:10:32 pm » |
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I had the same thought for this deck check it out:
4 Academy Rector
1 Flash
4 Dream Halls
4 Conflux
4 Violent Ultimatum
4 Cruel Ultimatum
5 moxen
1 Black Lotus
Sol Ring
Mana vault
Mana crypt
Brainstorm
Mystical Tutor
Enlightened Tutor
Wheel of Fortune
Demonic Tutor
Vamp Tutor
Imperial Seal
Merchant Scroll
4 Force of Will
Gush
4 Tropical Island
4 Underground Sea
4 Tundra
4 Volcanic Island
1 Polluted Delta
Guess how it works, Flash in Rector Search out Dream Halls Pitch anything to anything, and opponent goes ouch
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 01:31:45 am » |
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rector tendrils was pretty clearly pure combo. without brainstorm it doesn't work though, unfortunately, because the only thing really worth rectoring out is bargain. Futuresight can get you there, but bargain is really where it's at.
well, bargain and form of the dragon depending on the gamestate |
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 07:18:34 am » |
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The reason to play Rector over Ad Nauseam is that you can play FoW which at least I believe is necessary in Stax-filled metagames. rector tendrils was pretty clearly pure combo. without brainstorm it doesn't work though, unfortunately, because the only thing really worth rectoring out is bargain. Futuresight can get you there, but bargain is really where it's at.
I agree that Rector died completely with the restriction of Brainstorm. The deck must be able to keep Yawgmoth's Bargain in the library. (Necropotence is much less effective.) I have experimented with one or two copies of Lat-Nam's Legacy, but they are dead when you try to go off. Scroll Rack is also an option but can be too expensive to play and activate when you try to go off and it increases your vulnerability to Null Rod. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 08:16:43 am » |
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I had the same thought for this deck check it out:
4 Academy Rector
1 Flash
4 Dream Halls
4 Conflux
4 Violent Ultimatum
4 Cruel Ultimatum
5 moxen
3 Black Lotus
Sol Ring
Mana vault
Mana crypt
Brainstorm
Mystical Tutor
Enlightened Tutor
Wheel of Fortune
Demonic Tutor
Vamp Tutor
4 Force of Will
Gush
4 Tropical Island
4 Underground Sea
4 Tundra
4 Volcanic Island
1 Polluted Delta
Guess how it works, Flash in Rector Search out Dream Halls Pitch anything to anything, and opponent goes ouch
I hear this makes most decks better....but honestly, if you're gonna do that isn't playing dream halls kinda a waste? |
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 12:36:11 pm » |
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I had the same thought for this deck check it out:
I hear this makes most decks better....but honestly, if you're gonna do that isn't playing dream halls kinda a waste?
Fixed that 3 black lotus thing, guess I missed that. I think Dream Halls is good as multiple copies, just to ensure you can pitch something to Force or when Dream Halls is out, to Cruel or Conflux |
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 04:09:03 pm » |
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to make that deck work you probably want Therapy and Dark Rits. Your mana base will also be stronger with more fetches and less duals.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 06:46:10 pm » |
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Touchet, I never saw it. I'm not a member |
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 09:00:05 pm » |
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to make that deck work you probably want Therapy and Dark Rits. Your mana base will also be stronger with more fetches and less duals.
Not to commandeer the thread, I have a proxied version of this deck, it almost mana gins too much for use, other than to hardcast a force that is, but besides that I find getting Dream Halls out easy, and the searching to be the hardest part with a mostly colorless hand, or lack of a hand after dropping so many cards. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 09:10:06 pm » |
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I see why we sat beside each other in Richmond, you come up with good ideas, but your list and my list are very different my brother. Your's is molded to the formats needs, mine just wants to kill you with as little disruption as possible. How about this for a sideboard: 3 Hurkyl's Recall 4 Leyline of the Void 3 Shattering Spree Yawgmoth's Will Yawgmoth's Bargain 1 Rebuild 2 In the Eye of Chaos |
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