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« on: March 16, 2009, 09:33:43 am »

maindeck is the following:

4 chalice of the void
4 serum powder

4 Golgari Grave-troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
1 Ancestor's Chosen
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
1 angel of despair
1 river kelpie

4 bridge from below
4 leyline of the void

1 darkblast

4 cabal therapy
3 dread return
3 unmask

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 windswept heath
1 bayou
1 dryad arbor

i know i wanna have 3 wooded foothills and a tropical island in my side, but wut is recommended for the other 11 cards?  chain of vapor, emerald charm, reverent silience, oxidize, contagion seem pretty standard, but how much of what?  also, wut do u side out?  if u can give me some pointers about easy siding techniques, that would b awesome.  thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 09:51:22 am »

just thinking a little more about it.  i wanna run 4 chains, since it's so versatile.  i guess my big q's r wut to take out.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 11:16:07 am »

3 foothills
1 trop island
4 chain of vapor
4 emerald charm
3 contagion

look good?

and i guess siding out, some of the singletons r obvious, but how do u possibly side in 4 land, 4 chains, and 4 charms against leyline?
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 09:21:57 pm »

maindeck is the following:

4 chalice of the void
4 serum powder

4 Golgari Grave-troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
1 Ancestor's Chosen
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
1 angel of despair
1 river kelpie

4 bridge from below
4 leyline of the void

1 darkblast

4 cabal therapy
3 dread return
3 unmask

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 windswept heath
1 bayou
1 dryad arbor

i know i wanna have 3 wooded foothills and a tropical island in my side, but wut is recommended for the other 11 cards?  chain of vapor, emerald charm, reverent silience, oxidize, contagion seem pretty standard, but how much of what?  also, wut do u side out?  if u can give me some pointers about easy siding techniques, that would b awesome.  thanks.

Look bub, you need some help first of all the serum powder in main is something I've seen like 2 people do because you have to remove kill conditions if you f it up. Reverent Silence main board would surprise the crap out of anyone, but it's wasted slots. I like Oxidize personally, that's all I have to say about that. Contagion and Emerald Charm big no's. Chain yes, all the way. And try sideboarding in City of Brass, to handle the color issues.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 03:03:35 am »

My old sideboard was something like....
4x Gemstone Mines
4x Chain of Vapor
4x Emerald Charm
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Imperial Seal

and I have 4x City of Brass in the main deck

to be honest I'm not sure how important leyline of the void in the main deck is anymore.  just not as strong as it used to be. 

I'm also not as sure on the Chains/Emeralds.  against leyline isn't as strong as it used to be.

SBing Ichorid really is about what sort of hate you expect to see and I'm not really 100% sure what I'd expect to see outside of Tormod's Crypt. Honestly, I almost lean towards Pithing Needle since it hits Wasteland, Tormod's Crypt, Time Vault, and fetch lands. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 03:24:14 pm »

maindeck is the following:

4 chalice of the void
4 serum powder

4 Golgari Grave-troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
1 Ancestor's Chosen
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
1 angel of despair
1 river kelpie

4 bridge from below
4 leyline of the void

1 darkblast

4 cabal therapy
3 dread return
3 unmask

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 windswept heath
1 bayou
1 dryad arbor

i know i wanna have 3 wooded foothills and a tropical island in my side, but wut is recommended for the other 11 cards?  chain of vapor, emerald charm, reverent silience, oxidize, contagion seem pretty standard, but how much of what?  also, wut do u side out?  if u can give me some pointers about easy siding techniques, that would b awesome.  thanks.

Look bub, you need some help first of all the serum powder in main is something I've seen like 2 people do because you have to remove kill conditions if you f it up. Reverent Silence main board would surprise the crap out of anyone, but it's wasted slots. I like Oxidize personally, that's all I have to say about that. Contagion and Emerald Charm big no's. Chain yes, all the way. And try sideboarding in City of Brass, to handle the color issues.

Serum powder main is pretty universal in this archytpe...
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 03:50:18 pm »

Look bub, you need some help first of all the serum powder in main is something I've seen like 2 people do because you have to remove kill conditions if you f it up. Reverent Silence main board would surprise the crap out of anyone, but it's wasted slots. I like Oxidize personally, that's all I have to say about that. Contagion and Emerald Charm big no's. Chain yes, all the way. And try sideboarding in City of Brass, to handle the color issues.

Serum Powder is better in the main than Careful Study.  Reliably having Bazaar is better than relying on Careful Study and Bazaar is immune to the likes of Duress, Thoughtseize and Force of Will which are all common in main decks.

Powder decks have outperformed decks running Careful Study and Breakthrough.


For the board, I prefer rainbow lands because I want access to Chain of Vapor, hardcast Therapy and Emerald Charm.  You can try a mix of fetches and duals, but you end up dredging the land you want too often.

I consider Darkblast to be better than Contagion because it functions as a dredger and you can reliably find it in time for a tutored up Yixlid Jailer.  Also, being able to reliably remove Welder is huge in many matchups since it is the second Crypt activation that beats you rather than the first.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 09:17:12 am »

thanks.  yeah, i might go to rainbow lands.  fetchlands/duals/dryad arbor is cute game 1, but i can definitely see where u could screwed post board.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 11:24:52 pm »

I like:
4 gemstone mines
4 ray of revelation
3 riftstone portal
2 pithing needle
2 ancient grudge
Thats just me though... I tried out:
-2 gemstone mine
-2 ray of revelation
+1 balance
+3 Swords to plowshares.

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