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Thank you to everyone who made this event a success. 5 Rounds of swiss left 8 men left fighting for their share of these exciting prizes:  I give out a door prize at each of my events to one lucky person who carpooled. Carpooling is what makes the Vintage community growing and sustainable. This is my way of thanking those who keep the community alive and well. Congratulations to Rich Shay, who won a Nicol Bolas Playmat for the Carpool Door Prize:  Rich Shay shown with his new Nicol Bolas Playmat - Proof that Shay was visibly more excited about winning a Playmat featuring Tezzeret, than about winning another Mox Sapphire. I also give out a door prize to one lucky person who Pre-Registers. Pre-registering helps me in the task of planning for the event, and setting up the venue. Congratulations to Chris Roberts, who won a Nicol Bolas Playmat for the pre-registration Door Prize: Standings after 5 Rounds of Swiss - 1 Blaine Christiansen 11 UbaStax 2 Oliver Beaumont 11 Tezzeret 3 Rich Shay 11 Tezzeret 4 John Longo 10 Tezzeret 5 Arik Pogrebinsky 10 BUG Fish 6 Craig Dupre 9 Tezzeret 7 Jesse Martin 9 TPS 8 Andy Farias 9 Bomberman 9 Dan Cunningham 9 ANT 10 Brandon Jones 9 Tezzeret 11 Bill Copes 6 Transmuter Stax 12 Demonic Attorney 6 Tezzeret 13 Chris Freitas 6 RG Beats 14 David Charubini 6 Painter 15 Bill Rosa 6 Tezzeret 16 Eli Hamblet 3 Shaymora 17 Chris Roberts 3 TPS 18 Josh Cutler 3 Oath 19 Matt Macauley 0 Shaymora 20 Derrick Correia 0 BGRW Aggro Top 8 -------------------------------- 1 ( 5) Blaine Christiansen 8 ( 11) Andy Farias W -------------------------------- 5 ( 10) Arik Pogrebinsky 4 ( 7) John Longo W -------------------------------- 3 ( 16) Rich Shay W 6 ( 15) Craig Dupre -------------------------------- 7 ( 18) Jesse Martin W 2 ( 14) Oliver Beaumont -------------------------------- Top 4 -------------------------------- 8 ( 11) Andy Farias 4 ( 7) John Longo W -------------------------------- 3 ( 16) Rich Shay W 7 ( 18) Jesse Martin -------------------------------- Finals -------------------------------- 4 ( 7) John Longo 3 ( 16) Rich Shay W --------------------------------  Rich Shay and John Longo (When you're Rich Shay, it's just another day, another Mox, no need to get too worked up  ) 1st Rich Shay3 Flooded Strand 2 Polluted Delta 4 Seat of Synod 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Underground Sea 3 Volcanic Island 2 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Black Lotus 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Pearl 2 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Sol Ring 1 Time Vault 2 Voltaic Key 1 Demonic Tutor 4 Thoughtcast 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Fact or Fiction 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 1 Misdirection 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Red Elemental Blast 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Hurkyl's Recall 2 Pyroblast 4 Ingot Chewer 2 Yixlid Jailer 2 Pithing Needle 2 Relic of Progenitus 2 Rack and Ruin 1 Tormod's Crypt 2nd John Longo3 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 3 Underground Sea 3 Island 2 Tropical Island 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Black Lotus 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Tinker 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 1 Darksteel Colossus 1 Tarmogoyf 2 Street Wraith 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Time Walk 1 Regrowth 1 Gifts Ungiven 4 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Night's Whisper 1 Impulse 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 1 Misdirection 2 Negate 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Merchant Scroll 3 Yixlid Jailer 2 Pithing Needle 1 Tormod's Crypt 2 Tarmogoyf 2 Thoughtseize 1 Snuff Out 3 Energy Flux 1 Hurkyl's Recall  Andy Farias and Jesse Martin - Two Monday Night Vintage regulars 3rd Jesse Martin 4 Force of Will 4 Dark Ritual 4 Duress 2 Cabal Ritual 1 Misdirection 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Imperial Seal 1 Grim Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Necropotence 1 Yawgmoth's Bargain 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Time Walk 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Rebuild 1 Tendrils of Agony 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Mind's Desire 1 Memory Jar 1 Lotus Petal 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Timetwister 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Tinker 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Vault 3 Polluted Delta 2 Underground Sea 2 Swamp 2 Island 2 Flooded Strand 1 Tolarian Academy 2 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Massacre 1 Pithing Needle 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Wipe Away 3 Xantic Swarm 1 Bayou 1 Yixlid Jailer 4 Leyline of the Void 4th Andrew Farias4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 2 Thoughtseize 1 Duress 2 Thirst for Knowledge 2 Auriok Salvagers 3 Trinket Mage 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Brainstorm 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Ponder 1 Tinker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Echoing Truth 1 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Argivian Find 1 Voltaic Key 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Time Vault 1 Pithing Needle 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Black Lotus 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Ruby 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Strip Mine 3 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 2 Island 1 Snow-Covered Island 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 3 Ethersworn Cannonist 2 Sower of Temptation 3 Seal of Cleansing 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 Leyline of the Void 2 Yixlid Jailer 1 Duress 1 Glen-Elandra Archmage  5th Blaine Christiansen4 Bazaar of Baghdad 4 Mishra's Workshop 4 Barbarian Ring 3 Mountain 4 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Pearl 1 Sol Ring 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 4 Goblin Welder 4 Smokestack 4 Tangle Wire 4 Uba Mask 4 Null Rod 3 Crucible of Worlds 2 Ensnaring Bridge 1 Trinisphere 4 Chalice of the Void 4 Mogg Fanatic 3 Viashino Heretic 3 Pyrostatic Pillar 3 Tormod's Crypt 2 Ensnaring Bridge  6th Oliver Beaumont 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Duress 4 Accumulated Knowledge 2 Intuition 1 Regrowth 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 1 Echoing Truth 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 5 Island 4 Flooded Strand 3 Underground Sea 1 Tropical Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Vault 1 Sol Ring 3 Sower of Temptation 3 Relic of Progenitus 3 Yixlid Jailer 2 Hurkyl's Recall 2 Smother 1 Rebuild 1 Tendrils of Agony Doesn't want any pictures floating around of him not winning a piece of power. 7th Arik Pogrebinsky 4 Dark Confidant 4 Tarmogoyf 1 Trygon Predator 1 Vendilion Clique 4 Duress 4 Force of Will 3 Sleight of Hand 3 Negate 2 Disrupt 2 Thoughtseize 1 Time Walk 1 Brainstorm 1 Ponder 1 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 3 Null Rod 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Emerald 4 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 3 Tropical Island 3 Underground Sea 1 Island 4 Wasteland 1 Strip Mine 3 Umezawa's Jitte 3 Yixlid Jailer 3 Seal of Primordium 2 Trygon Predator 1 Hurkyl's Recall 1 Null Rod 1 Darkblast 1 Island  8th Craig Dupre 4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 4 Duress 4 Accumulated Knowledge 2 Intuition 1 Regrowth 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Tezzeret, the Seeker 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 1 Echoing Truth 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Time Walk 1 Tinker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Mystical Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Brainstorm 1 Relic of Progenitus 4 Island 3 Polluted Delta 2 Flooded Strand 4 Underground Sea 1 Tropical Island 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Black Lotus 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Emerald 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Hurkyl's Recall 3 Extirpate 1 Yixlid Jailer 3 Leyline of the Void 1 Rebuild 2 Engineered Plague 2 Smother 2 Sower of Temptation |
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 12:03:14 am » |
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I'll try to write something detailed soon.
Here's what I won with:
3 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
4 Seat of the Synod
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Underground Sea
3 Volcanic Island
2 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Time Vault
2 Voltaic Key
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Thoughtcast
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Fact or Fiction
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
1 Misdirection
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Hurkyl's Recall
// Sideboard:
SB: 2 Pyroblast
SB: 4 Ingot Chewer
SB: 2 Yixlid Jailer
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 2 Rack and Ruin
SB: 1 Tormod's Crypt
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The Academy: If I'm not dead, I have a Dragonlord Dromoka coming in 4 turns
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 01:45:00 am » |
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A win from the man who once said "Tezzeret was never missed." How things have changed |
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 01:51:08 am » |
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a lot of blue card advantage + 2 card instant win combo = hard deck to lose with...
Tezz is quickly becoming the new gifts.
I dont see a single deck in that list of 20 that would be running null rod, did you get some lucky pairings or what?
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Rand Paul is a stupid fuck, just like his daddy. Let's go buy some gold!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 02:16:15 am » |
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a lot of blue card advantage + 2 card instant win combo = hard deck to lose with...
Tezz is quickly becoming the new gifts.
I dont see a single deck in that list of 20 that would be running null rod, did you get some lucky pairings or what?
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Team Meandeck Team Serious LordHomerCat is just mean, and isnt really justifying his statements very well, is he?
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 05:15:43 am » |
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a lot of blue card advantage + 2 card instant win combo = hard deck to lose with...
Tezz is quickly becoming the new gifts.
I dont see a single deck in that list of 20 that would be running null rod, did you get some lucky pairings or what?
BUG Fish and RG Beats does run Null Rod... or do they? |
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 08:25:05 am » |
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BUG Fish and RG Beats does run Null Rod... or do they?
Arik (BUG Fish) was NOT running Null Rod for some reason. I had 4 Rods (UbaStax) and RG Beats had Rods, but that might have been it. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 10:11:26 am » |
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The RG beats list was more Sligh than RG beats, and was running Null Rod (and was almost mono-red).
Thanks for another good event ELD.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 10:12:06 am » |
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Null Rod and Workshop are banned in New England, aren't they?
Yes. They have been for a few years. Workshop was banned in 2005 when Travis LaPlante won a TMD Open with March of the Machines. The banning was handed down to prevent Travis LaPlante from ever winning another New England tournament with March of the Machines. March of the Machines wasn't banned because it was the engine, Workshop, that was the problem. If Travis LaPlante somehow wins another TMD Open, War Mammoth will probably be banned, too. Null Rod was banned in 2006 when Rich Meyst won a TMD Open with Worse than Grow. Given, the Null Rods were only in Rich Meyst's sideboard, but it was decided that erring on the side of caution would be best in the off chance that the metagame became dominated by Null Rod until the next B/R announcement, which we all know would have destroyed the very essence of the New England Vintage player base. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 11:27:42 am » |
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seems like a good time to start playing null rod.dec + 56 other cards. At least uba can still party like a rock star, so thats promising news.
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Rand Paul is a stupid fuck, just like his daddy. Let's go buy some gold!!!
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 04:17:50 pm » |
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I ran 3 null rod main and 1 board.
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I don't remember anyone ever scooping to a Null Rod...
The same cannot be said of Yawgmoth's Will.
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Nefarias
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 02:24:17 am » |
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The RG beats list was more Sligh than RG beats, and was running Null Rod (and was mono-red).
It splashed green solely for Tarmogoyf. Other than that, yeah, it was mostly Sligh. Top 8 broken down like this: Andy (Bomberman) over Blaine (Uba) John (Tez) over Arik (BUG) Rich (Tez) over Craig (Tez) Jesse (TPS) over Oliver (Tez) John over Andy Rich over Jesse Rich and John did some sort of complicated split which involved playing it out, and Rich won. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 03:27:37 pm » |
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Oh my god...can't anyone beat Rich Shay?
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RIP Mogg Fanatic...at least you are still better than Fire Bowman!!!
I was once asked on MWS, what the highest I ever finished at a TMD Open was. I replied, "I've never played in a Waterbury. I was then called "A TOTAL NOOB!"
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2009, 04:02:24 pm » |
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i tried, we went to game 3 in the semis, but he blew me out a turn faster =(
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2009, 04:30:21 pm » |
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Oh my god...can't anyone beat Rich Shay?
The problem is that nobody's been packing Suicide Black with maindeck Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni. |
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How many more Unicorns must die???
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2009, 07:02:56 pm » |
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Does anyone have the decklist for that bomberman deck?
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2009, 07:12:30 pm » |
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Anyone has the decklists of the TOP 8?
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Workshops SUCKS huh??? So why do you bother so much with them??? Why do you change so much your decks to beat them???
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Nefarias
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2009, 05:44:20 pm » |
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Does anyone have the decklist for that bomberman deck?
I'm running a bit late at the moment and don't have time to post my list, but if Eric doesn't beat me to it I'll edit this post hopefully sometime later tonight and include it. For reference, it's only a few cards off what I top 16'ed with at the TMD Open. EDIT: From memory: 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 2 Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Strip Mine 1 Snow-Covered Island 1 Tolarian Academy 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Trinket Mage 2 Auriok Salvagers 2 Thoughtsieze 1 Duress 1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 2 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Echoing Truth 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Tinker 1 Brainstorm 1 Argivian Find 1 Pithing Needle 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Ponder 1 Time Walk 1 Demonic Tutor Sideboard: 1 Leyline of the Void 3 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Yixlid Jailer 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Seal of Cleansing 1 Duress 1 Glen-Elendra Archmage 2 Sower of Temptation I encountered a lot of problems with it this time out, particularly with control mirrors. Subsequent changes would primarily address that issue. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2009, 09:43:49 pm » |
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I plan to have the lists up early next week.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2009, 07:36:18 am » |
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I plan to have the lists up early next week.
Where do the pics you took end up? |
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2009, 08:52:28 am » |
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I plan to have the lists up early next week.
Where do the pics you took end up? Federal Agencies. |
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How many more Unicorns must die???
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2009, 06:50:58 pm » |
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Does anyone have the decklist for that bomberman deck?
I'm running a bit late at the moment and don't have time to post my list, but if Eric doesn't beat me to it I'll edit this post hopefully sometime later tonight and include it. For reference, it's only a few cards off what I top 16'ed with at the TMD Open. EDIT: From memory: 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 2 Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Strip Mine 1 Snow-Covered Island 1 Tolarian Academy 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Trinket Mage 2 Auriok Salvagers 2 Thoughtsieze 1 Duress 1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 2 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Echoing Truth 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Tinker 1 Brainstorm 1 Argivian Find 1 Pithing Needle 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Ponder 1 Time Walk 1 Demonic Tutor Sideboard: 1 Leyline of the Void 3 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Yixlid Jailer 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Seal of Cleansing 1 Duress 1 Glen-Elendra Archmage 2 Sower of Temptation I encountered a lot of problems with it this time out, particularly with control mirrors. Subsequent changes would primarily address that issue. How did you play it? I assume you just grabbed one piece of a win condition opening hand and then tutored/Tezzeret for the other? Or was there a specific game plan? |
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2009, 10:55:36 pm » |
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Does anyone have the decklist for that bomberman deck?
I'm running a bit late at the moment and don't have time to post my list, but if Eric doesn't beat me to it I'll edit this post hopefully sometime later tonight and include it. For reference, it's only a few cards off what I top 16'ed with at the TMD Open. EDIT: From memory: 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 2 Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Strip Mine 1 Snow-Covered Island 1 Tolarian Academy 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Trinket Mage 2 Auriok Salvagers 2 Thoughtsieze 1 Duress 1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 2 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Echoing Truth 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Tinker 1 Brainstorm 1 Argivian Find 1 Pithing Needle 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Ponder 1 Time Walk 1 Demonic Tutor Sideboard: 1 Leyline of the Void 3 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Yixlid Jailer 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Seal of Cleansing 1 Duress 1 Glen-Elendra Archmage 2 Sower of Temptation I encountered a lot of problems with it this time out, particularly with control mirrors. Subsequent changes would primarily address that issue. How did you play it? I assume you just grabbed one piece of a win condition opening hand and then tutored/Tezzeret for the other? Or was there a specific game plan? This is how 99% of Vintage blue players play: 1. look at your hand and decide if it has enough mana to feul the spells. 2. Separate your draw spells/game winners, and you counters. 3. Use your draw spells to get more counters, more draw spells, more mana, and game winners. 4. Use your counters to stop: Opponents game winners, Ancestral Recall, and opponents counterspells targetting your spells. 5. Play Yawgmoth's Will, Tinker, or assemble Time Vault and Tezzeret/Voltaic Key. |
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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2009, 12:08:02 am » |
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This is how 99% of Vintage blue players play:
1. look at your hand and decide if it has enough mana to feul the spells.
2. Separate your draw spells/game winners, and you counters.
3. Use your draw spells to get more counters, more draw spells, more mana, and game winners.
4. Use your counters to stop: Opponents game winners, Ancestral Recall, and opponents counterspells targetting your spells.
5. Play Yawgmoth's Will, Tinker, or assemble Time Vault and Tezzeret/Voltaic Key.
In fact, I'm sure that extensive articles could be written on the various stages of the modern Vintage control mirror: Stage 1: Ancestral Recall Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over the resolution of Ancestral Recall Stage 2: Thirst Leveraging Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over draw spells that aren't as good as Ancestral Recall Stage 3: Time Vault Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over the exact same win condition, which both decks use in spite of ostensibly being 'different archetypes'. |
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 12:57:40 pm » |
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Lists are up. Pictures soon to follow.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 01:49:46 pm » |
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This is how 99% of Vintage blue players play:
1. look at your hand and decide if it has enough mana to feul the spells.
2. Separate your draw spells/game winners, and you counters.
3. Use your draw spells to get more counters, more draw spells, more mana, and game winners.
4. Use your counters to stop: Opponents game winners, Ancestral Recall, and opponents counterspells targetting your spells.
5. Play Yawgmoth's Will, Tinker, or assemble Time Vault and Tezzeret/Voltaic Key.
In fact, I'm sure that extensive articles could be written on the various stages of the modern Vintage control mirror: Stage 1: Ancestral Recall Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over the resolution of Ancestral Recall Stage 2: Thirst Leveraging Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over draw spells that aren't as good as Ancestral Recall Stage 3: Time Vault Here players will play mana to cast, search for, and fight over the exact same win condition, which both decks use in spite of ostensibly being 'different archetypes'. Does anyone have the decklist for that bomberman deck?
I'm running a bit late at the moment and don't have time to post my list, but if Eric doesn't beat me to it I'll edit this post hopefully sometime later tonight and include it. For reference, it's only a few cards off what I top 16'ed with at the TMD Open. EDIT: From memory: 2 Flooded Strand 3 Polluted Delta 2 Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Tundra 1 Library of Alexandria 1 Strip Mine 1 Snow-Covered Island 1 Tolarian Academy 5 Moxen 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 4 Force of Will 3 Mana Drain 3 Trinket Mage 2 Auriok Salvagers 2 Thoughtsieze 1 Duress 1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key 2 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Echoing Truth 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Tormod’s Crypt 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Tinker 1 Brainstorm 1 Argivian Find 1 Pithing Needle 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Yawgmoth’s Will 1 Ponder 1 Time Walk 1 Demonic Tutor Sideboard: 1 Leyline of the Void 3 Ethersworn Canonist 2 Yixlid Jailer 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Tormod’s Crypt 3 Seal of Cleansing 1 Duress 1 Glen-Elendra Archmage 2 Sower of Temptation I encountered a lot of problems with it this time out, particularly with control mirrors. Subsequent changes would primarily address that issue. How did you play it? I assume you just grabbed one piece of a win condition opening hand and then tutored/Tezzeret for the other? Or was there a specific game plan? This is how 99% of Vintage blue players play: 1. look at your hand and decide if it has enough mana to feul the spells. 2. Separate your draw spells/game winners, and you counters. 3. Use your draw spells to get more counters, more draw spells, more mana, and game winners. 4. Use your counters to stop: Opponents game winners, Ancestral Recall, and opponents counterspells targetting your spells. 5. Play Yawgmoth's Will, Tinker, or assemble Time Vault and Tezzeret/Voltaic Key. That's what I figured, but I am working on a bomberman deck myself, and am trying to figure out how to play it effeciantly |
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Pics added of Top 8, and below, of the field:  John Longo vs Blaine Christiansen  Andy Farias vs Brandon Jones  Oliver Beaumont vs Eli Hamblet  Not a bad mull to 4. Black Lotus, Meditate, on your turn. Your opponent runs out a first turn Tezzeret, and you Commandeer it!  Arik Pogrebinsky vs Dr. Zygon  Bill Copes vs Craig Dupre  Jesse Martin vs Chris Roberts  Bill Rosa vs Dan Cunningham (Matt Macauley and Chris Freitasat the next table)  Chris Freitas with RG Beats - only one game away from the Top 8!  TAL vs DA - the battle of the Time Vaults  Freitas' team making the Red Zone even redder!  Good start for Shops, better start for Bomberman.  Now you're playing with Power! |
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2009, 09:42:44 pm » |
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Thank you for adding pictures. It is always nice to see some pics in these forums.
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2009, 09:14:44 am » |
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Adding the pictures you took at this event certainly adds a nice touch to the report, though I may just be biased since I am in three of them. I am hoping that I will actually be playing in your next mox event coming up, but it will depend heavily on how I play next monday night. If I do participate, I absolutely would love for you to continue taking/posting pictures. Having visuals is always a plus.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 10:10:04 am » |
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I definitely plan to take pictures at ELD's Mox 23, which is coming up fast. Everyone have fun at the pre-releases, and Friday Release events, but on Saturday May 2nd, it's time to see if Alara Reborn can win someone a Mox.
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