Enlightend Oath

[Wise]

I started tinkering with Oath of Druids as soon as the B&R list was announced, personally I feel that enlightened tutor and crop rotation are definitely welcomed additions to this deck, this is my "current" build (I am testing daily)

Lands (17)

4 Gemstone mine
4 City of Brass
4 forbidden orchards
2 tropical islands
2 wasteland
1 strip mine

Artifacts (6)

6 lotus moxen

Spells (35)
1 ancestral recall
1 time walk
1 brainstorm
1 thirst for knowledge
1 deep analysis
1 ponder
3 impulse
4 force of will
4 spell snare
3 enlightened tutor
2 crop rotation
1 mystical tutor
1 vampiric tutor
1 demonic tutor
4 oath of druids
4 duress
1 gaea's blessing
1 rebuild

WIN (2)
1 Helkite Overlord
1 Progenitus (or akroma)




The mana base is currently experimental, I am not sure how stable it will be or if the damage off the cities will be relevant yet, but with the possibly of wasteland/strip combo/lock being more prevalent I think the stability of any color of mana will prove advantageous. Gemstone mine is also a great sac land to the crop rotation, the lack of fetch shuffle effects is made up for with the increase in tutor effects, it also allows a more wide range of sideboard tactics. The alternative Landbase would look similar to this

6 fetchland
2 tropical island
2 underground sea
2 tundra
4 forbidden orchard
1 strip mine
1 wasteland


Spell Choices

Spell snare - This card has proven much better in testing then negate has, especially allowing protection from drain & the ability to play oath 2nd or 3rd turn with back up

Enlightened tutor - this is Oath 5 - 7 at bare minimum, and of course can fetch lotus, if scroll rack or Sensi's top were maindeck it could fetch those as well. This also makes the sideboard more strategic against shop (Eflux fetching) and other tricks, so far with testing it has proven to be working well either allowing me to fetch up lotus for a solid 2nd turn oath with protection or finding the oath itself.

Crop Rotation - I always ran 1 crop rotation in all of my oath builds as it essentially acted as orchard 5, I upped the count to 2 now and its playing out well, this helps mana fix, can get wasteland, protects against land striping & gets forbidden orchard


Card Discussion

Divining top - Would the addition of 1 of these be advantageous? is 9 shuffle effects enough? Does Etutor make this advantageous?

Scroll Rack - I don’t think this has a place in this deck, there are already so many card disadvantage tutors to make this good I think, but the etutor would be able to fetch this out as well.

Vault/Key - Etutor would be able to get the missing piece of the combo easily if one was already drawn, this is something I have considered seriously adding into the deck, it would be a solid 2nd win condition.


Thoughts? Ideas?


Cheers

[TopSecret]

I think you should add some Null Rod,
since you already play some mana denial
and it can be fetched by Enlightened Tutor to stop the Vault-Key kill even if you play just one Rod.

[Wise]

actually I was toying with the idea of 1 - 2 rods, I definately forgot to add that when I wrote up the list, its definately a good idea with only 6 moxenlotus as my only artifacts! good call

[Sporkcore]

If you're playing rainbow lands with E. Tutor, why not run a Choke or 2 main?

[Wise]

i dont know if maindeck would have a place for it, but definately a sideboard card, what I like about the potential of the deck is it can have a toolbox as sideboard, I will be testin choke out

[Wise]

took the Deep Analysis out last night and replaced it with Sensi's Top

so far testing has proven well, the DeepAnalysis was to expensive to cast and I found myself either pitching it or holding onto it indefinately, also by the time I "oath" it into my GY the game has pretty much ended so for 3pts of dmg it seems weak.

[jaeppel]

You need seal of primordium.  just a single copy with the enlightened tutors gives a solid game one removal option, and more in the side depending the meta.  Also i think you could generally use more enlightened targets than just the oaths.  Having access to 4off tutors invites a silver-bullety approach.  While you are playtesting think to yourself every time you have an e-tutor in hand "what could i turn this into that would be absolutely perfect right now."  If you keep wanting the same answers, then make a spot for them.  3 e-tutor, 3 blacktutor, and 3 singleton answers should be a really solid approach.  maybe even go to 4 enlightened.

[honestabe]

Though I'm not a fan of Scroll Rack, the amount of Enlightened tutors MAY make it a good plan

[Wise]

I split for the finals of a 56 man double lotus tournament this past Saturday with this build


1 Thoughtseize
4 Force of Will
1 Mox Ruby
3 Impulse
3 City of Brass
1 Brainstorm
1 Black Lotus
1 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Oath of Druids
1 Strip Mine
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mystical Tutor
3 Enlightened Tutor
4 Duress
4 Gemstone Mine
1 Time Walk
2 Crop Rotation
1 Rebuild
4 Spell Snare
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Progenitus
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Wasteland
2 Tropical island
1 Mox Jet
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Pearl
1 Ponder
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Hellkite Overlord

Sideboard:
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Null Rod
2 Rule of Law
2 Energy Flux
2 Seal of Primordium
2 Planar Void
2 Propaganda



Seven rounds, my matches were as follows


Round 1: Remora Control 2-0
Round 2: Ichorid               0-2
Round 3: Bob Control       2-1
Round 4: Opponent did'nt show for match
Round 5: Confidant Tez     2-0
Round 6:  TPS           2-1
Round 7:  Draw

Quarter Finals - Confidant Tez   2-0
Semi Finals - Mono Black          2-0
Finals - Cash Split


The deck ran really smooth, I am still not sure the Progenitus is really the best 2nd creature but I only lost 1 game due to him, and its because I had Hellkite Time twistered into my hand :/

I am going to start testing Scroll rack over Sensei's top starting tonight, to see how that pans out I will post my results once I have them

[jaeppel]

I think an engine we should be looking at with 4enlightened is the classic tax/rack engine.  One of the great flaws with tax/rack is that it took up so many slots, as with enlightened restricted four of each was needed to go off reliably.  With a set of tutors, it should be possible to run only two of each, and have the engine run much more smoothly thanks to having lots of cheap tutors.  I havent really worked out the list yet, but i think that a GWB enlightened/oath/tax/rack deck could be out there. 

Also, Timekey is an autoinclude, with lots of tutors its a much more immediate win than say "oath up progenitus."  But i think both win cons can happily co-exist.  Timevault is good with progenitus, as you just end the game now, no passing go.  Leaving out blue (which i am inclined to do), leaves a gaping hole where walk used to be.

[Wise]

I think including the rack/tax combo starts to really bog things down a little, you would need to at least include


3 land tax
3 scroll rack

because your first E-tutor should be spent on finding oath of druids,

Eliminating blue from this deck is suicide IMO, blue is what allows this deck to compete, with a full arsonal of countersells (8 cards) and your draw (8 more cards) its what can let oath get on the board, GWB would be way to slow and defenceless, I really enjoy how the 5 color mana base is flowing, especially with the SB choices available,

The Time Vault/Key combo seems to be a "auto" include in most decks now aday's but I am not sure how it would fare in oath, while yea you could potentially "oops I win" or just Etutor for the combo it does take away from the actually direction of the deck, it deserves some testing, but I just cant find the space in my build,

this is the build that I split with in the top 8 of the double lotus event


4 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
4 Duress
1 Thoughtseize
1 Balance
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Time Walk
3 Lim Dul's Vault
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric TUtor
1 Imperial Seal
2 Enlightened Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Oath of Druids
1 Platinum Angel
2 Hellkite Overlord
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Time Vault
1 Voltaic Key
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Tinker
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Emerald
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
1 City of Brass
1 Island
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra

Sideboard:
2 Empyrial Archangel
1 Inkwell Leviathan
2 Oxidize
2 Energy Flux
2 Yixlid Jailer
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
2 Extract
1 Relic of Progenitus



This deck took a more 3 color approach, with the fetch land/dual land mana base


let me know how your deck does in testing