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Author Topic: Cunning Wish sideboard options  (Read 1142 times)
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« on: September 29, 2009, 07:22:25 am »

Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback in my last thread.

I'm building a deck similar to Shaymora that runs 4of Lorescale Coatl to help the aggro match without having dead cards (e.g. Old Man of the Sea) against control.  This means my colors are Ubg.

I think of the deck as control that can play aggro control.  This gives me flexibility to play the style that suits my opening hand and matchup best.  It also means I am unpredictable.

I don't know if this deck can be tier 1.  But it is incredibly fun to play and feels different from both drain decks and gro decks despite having common elements of each.

I started to consider using Cunning Wish so that I could wish for Berserk.  My idea was that resolving Coatl should be like resolving Oath.  My opponent either answers it or loses the game in 2-3 turns.  Losing to time vault when Coatl is 8/8 and my opponent is at 3 sucks.  Berserk often acts as a Time Walk to stop this nonsense.  It also often acts as win-more.  The reason for using it that finally convinced me was losing games without it when aggro.dec chump blocked my 30/30 Coatl for 5 turns.  If Coatl is supposed to help the aggro matchup, it needs to be able to actually do something there.  So I run Berserk.

I'm not sure whether Coatl is a better choice than Tarmogoyf.  The biggest advantage I see is that if my opponent has a Tarmogoyf, I'd much rather have a Coatl.  Coatl + Berserk can also win against Oath creatures, Inkwell Leviathan, etc. 

Anyway, here's an approximate list:

4 Remora
4 FoW
4 Meditate
1 MisD
3 Commandeer
4 Lorescale Coatl
1-3 Cunning Wish

Ancestral
Time Walk
Brainstorm
Mystical Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Library of Alexandria
Regrowth
Vampiric Tutor
Yawg Will
Timetwister
Tinker
Vault/Key

Mana (fetches + islands + dual islands + moxen + sol ring + lotus + crypt)

Debatable inclusions (some of Mana Drain, Inkwell Leviathan, Memory Jar, Rebuild, Gifts, Sylvan Library, Merchant Scroll, Fastbond, Gush)

Now, I need a sideboard.

I want 4xLeyline to board in against dredge.  I also probably want at least a couple basic lands to board in (I have 4 basic Islands MD).  Maybe Tarmogoyfs.

For the rest of the cards, I'm considering:
Extirpate
Darkblast
Hurkyl's Recall
MisD
Commandeer
Berserk
Repeal

Then we get kind of janky...
Gifts
Crop Rotation (gets LoA against drains)
Stifle
Trickbind
Gush (I can't decide where the hell I want Gush, if at all.  It's a beautiful combat trick with Coatl out and helps find pitch counters but sucks in an opening hand, sucks under Remora and loses the surprise factor if wished for.)
Naturalize (is there a better option?)
Pact of Negation
Mana Drain
Slaughter Pact
Brain Freeze
Demonic Consultation
Hatred (haha)

At this point I'm just brainstorming bad ideas.  The question is, have I missed any good ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 11:05:48 am »

Ravenous trap from Zendikar is probably a solid choice!

Krosan grip is maybe better than naturalize.

Twincast sounds fun but no good Smile
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 10:32:00 pm »

Another misdirection for the counter wars is probably better than pact of negation. It could also swing an ancestral your way without being just a misdirection all the time. So i think you can forget pact.
I think krosan grip would be a solid contender And ravenous trap is an auto include for any wish board once zendikar is legal.
 I'm also wondering if life from the loam is an instant, I can't seem to remember. It would be better than more basics in the board either way.
Mindbreak Trap could be fun, and Archive trap would screw over allot of top deck tutors, but that would probably fall into the janky list.

Also if you do run Crop Rotation, put a Strip Mine in your deck. -Or at least your board. That gives you 7 answers to dredge post board, which is the magic number.
Those would be; your four leylines, Extirpate/Ravenous trap, Strip mine, and crop for Strip mine. Strip also helps against allot of other decks. Oath, Shops... etc.
the only other think i can think of is possibly token hate (echoing truth) but that might be good as main deck bounce.
if you ran red there would be a lot more options.
another janky thing that just came to mind is Lim-Dul's Vault, but thats reaching.
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