Ghast Deck

[Portalis]

made this bloodghast deck and the draw ability with clamp is amazing. that the creatures come right back to play and swing again. that ob with fastbond is nuts too if i can't kill them slowly. my question is should i replace the naturalize with krosan grips or are there better artifact/enchantment removal i'm missing? well here is the deck btw

Land:
1 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Bloodstained Mire
6 Swamp
2 Forest
3 Bayou
3 Wasteland
1 Stripmine

Creatures:
4 Bloodghast
4 Dark Confidant
2 Gatekeeper of Malakair
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen

Artifact:
3 Skull Clamp


Spells:
2 Crop Rotation
1 Fastbond
2 Life from the Loam
4 Duress
4 Sadistic Sacrament
2 Unmask
4 Dark Ritual
1 Vampiric tutor
1 Demonic tutor
1 Guttural Response
2 Naturalize

Possible SB (maybe change)
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Helm of Obedience
2 Guttural Response
3 Innocent Blood
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Relic of Progenitus

I also thought about taking out the Guttural Response and the 2 life from loam and 1 Sadistic Sacrament for
x4 Chalice of the Void

[zeus-online]

Why crop rotation?

Also, i think you should up the clamp to 4, and play demonic consultation.

A 4th wasteland could be good aswell.

[shroomy2dope]

i would definately change the unmask you can support thoughtsieze or hymn and they both would work better.  in my opinion you're 100% right about chalice

and too answer your initial questions, k grip is better but if you run enough duress effects naturalize id fine. they would have to save their options for your win-cons. not your hate.

and other options you could check out would be oxidize, rust, emerald charm,seal of primordium and reverant silence. for green

xenic poltergeist/innocentblood or diabolic edict for black or maybe pernicious deed, but all of that is pretty slow and not recomended for a powered meta. however they are still options.

[TopSecret]

In addition to those mentioned, another replacement for Naturalize is Deglamer.
It can hit Colossus and ignore graveyard recursion like Welder.

Engineered Explosives can hit Oath, dudes, Warren tokens, moxes, and Time Vault among other things.

Seeds of Innocence can hit Sphinx and Inkwell, but not Colossus and does not effect enchantments.

I guess it depends on what you are looking to target with that slot.

[Portalis]

nice thanks, so i did a revamp of the deck here, i don't own any thoughtsieze so i put in hymns instead. crop rotation is put in for more land search to synergize with bloodghast landfall ability.  I thought aboul Demonic Consultation or Spoils of the Vault but i'm wary of loosing so many cards with my luck, either half my deck will be gone or i loose to much life.  i can probably take out the crop rotations and add in Engineered Explosives might have to do some play testing to make sure. 

Land:
1 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Bloodstained Mire
6 Swamp
2 Forest
3 Bayou
3 Wasteland
1 Stripmine

Creatures:
4 Bloodghast
4 Dark Confidant
2 Gatekeeper of Malakair
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen

Artifact:
3 Skull Clamp

Spells:
2 Crop Rotation
1 Fastbond
4 Duress
3 Sadistic Sacrament
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Hymn of Tourach
4 Dark Ritual
1 Vampiric tutor
1 Demonic tutor
2 Naturalize

[RecklessEmbermage]

I would definately play cabal therapy here, to give the deck more redundancy (get more value from ghast, LftL, sacrament etc.). It trumps hymn easily, but may be worth 3 or 4 slots.

Demonic consultation does have slight dissynergy with the deck, but it is your best option for finding what you need and playing it ASAP.

How has Ob Nixilis been working out for you? He seems a bit win-more.

Maelstrom pulse should be considered as an alternative to naturalize. 1 or 2 would give you more space in the board for cards other than removal.

[lordmayhem]

Have you considered using a singleton Dryad Arbor in here?

Reason being that it's a fetch-able forest which is clampable.
Fetch - Return Ghast
Clamp Ghast
Crack Fetch for Dryad - Return Ghast
Clamp Ghast, Clamp  Dryad

That's a 6 card draw for  .

[Portalis]

Ob Nix is great when he is out. with the fletch lands and fastbond out pretty much game over.  i thought about adding in 2 but i think 1 is ok.  that i thought about adding in a single dryad arbor was looking at it after i read the replies and seemed that could not hurt the deck.

I will probably take out the crop rotations since i can get many searches with the fletch lands and the fast bond going. seems crop rotation can be dead in my hand.  what you think about this
 take out
-2 crop rotation
-2 hymn to tourach
-1 swamp

in
+3 Cabal Therapy
+1 Diabolic Intent
+1 Dryad Arbor

[lordmayhem]

My question is how does this deck win? Ob Nixilis with fetches and Fastbond?

Have you thought about going the beatdown route instead?
Tarmogoyfs or perhaps the Dark Depths combo? Tombstalkers might be good if you run some Sensei's Divining Top for Confidant.

[shroomy2dope]

consultation is good, but never play spoils. it's not worth it.

[Portalis]

My question is how does this deck win? Ob Nixilis with fetches and Fastbond?

Have you thought about going the beatdown route instead?
Tarmogoyfs or perhaps the Dark Depths combo? Tombstalkers might be good if you run some Sensei's Divining Top for Confidant.

one of the win cons is Ob Nix and fastbond the other hopefully is to control your opponents hand with duress,therapy ect to remove threats and to slowly beat down with bloodghasts too.

[Greeg]

My question is how does this deck win? Ob Nixilis with fetches and Fastbond?

Have you thought about going the beatdown route instead?
Tarmogoyfs or perhaps the Dark Depths combo? Tombstalkers might be good if you run some Sensei's Divining Top for Confidant.

I tried DD combo within this type of Ghast deck and it usually failed. You can win with straight Ghast beats and Ob Nix is pretty amazing. Couple those with a bunch of discard and the deck runs pretty well.

[ReAnimator]

Land:
1 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Bloodstained Mire
6 Swamp
2 Forest
3 Bayou

Seriously? Seriously?
Give me one good reason that 4 of these are not Verdant Catacombs.

[shroomy2dope]

this just doesn't seem very competative. what turn do you usually win by?  if someone brings in hate on your clamp, what do you do? you should have atleast 1 fecundity in the board, and 1 undiscovered paradise maindeck to rotate for.
also you run tutors. why not play atleast 1 crucible.
with the large mana cost on ob nixis you could benifit from cards like lake of the dead, cabal coffers, or some such accelerant lands.
really to be competative it seems like you have to have something other than clamp to fill your hand with lands, because clamp is slow without fastbond to push it along, and with only 2 tutors you need clamp to help find fastbond. you should consider other ways to drop more lands. if you ran blue i would say sea drake and gush or for a land i'd say lotus vale, or other lands that let you return lands.
what is your normal method of fetching fastbond, what turn do you usually see it by?

[OmniStrife_101]

Nice to see that others are exploring this deck archetype as well.  I also constructed around the proposed combo of Fastbond - Blood Ghast and Skull Clamp.  Here is the link below:

http://www.thesphere.freeforums.org/ghast-bond-tendrils-deck-development-t1215.html

Basically here is the my initial post:

Hey guys, it has been some weeks now when I started to build this deck.

Immediately after Zendikar was out, I went to Mike's place in search for a set of BloodGhasts for sale. I was very much eager to try out the new deck idea I had when Zendikar was spoiled. The main idea is to use the insane draw engine using these three cards:

Bloodghast - Skull Clamp - Fastbond

then kill via Tendrils of Agony or via Aggro beat down. I played some games with it already, and made adjustments based on the test play and the inputs of Mondu. Bloodghasts were intially used in Ichorid archetypes and also black based decks. I'd like to hear what the community thinks of the deck, if it has possibilities of improving into a viable deck in Vintage or if other wise.

GhastBond ver1

Engine:(15)
1 Fastbond
3 Bloodghast
3 Skullclamp
3 Dark Confidant
3 Intuition
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Brainstorm

Disruption/Protection: (10)
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Duress
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Chain of Vapor

Broken Stuff: (5)
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will

Kill condition: (3)
1 Tinker
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Tendrils of Agony

Resources: (27)
4 Dark Ritual
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Underground Sea
1 Breeding Pool - Tropical Island
1 Island
2 Swamp
3 Polluted Delta
2 Misty Rain Forest
1 Mox Peal
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald

Basically, the shell of the deck is based on Intuition Tendrils.dec. Explanation on some of the card choices:

3 Intuition: Normally would get 3 Blooghasts, 3 Cabal Therapies if Bloodghasts are already online, 2 Bloodghasts and 1 Cabal Therapy. Or if the situation may call it, the usuall Intuition Tendrils pile of cards. The combinations may vary depending on the situation.
3 Bloodghasts: As Mondu pointed out, you would only Intuition for three.
3 Dark Confidants: Helps to stablize the draw and board position up until such time that you can win with or without the Bloodghasts going online.
1 Thrist for Knowledge:: Helps to discard those nasty Bloodghasts stuck in your hand if you have no mana to hard cast them.

I was actually thinking of putting in Careful Study in place of Dark Confidants and Brainstorm but initial testing proved it to be sub par.

What do you guys think? junk or not?