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[Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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Rome
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[Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 18, 2010, 05:25:24 pm »
Well i finalized my deck for the up and commin event. I will share now that I have tested with some of the cards that have been in question. I know some people on here have been waiting to see this but here goes fire away with some questions.
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1 Barbarian Ring
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
1 Bazaar of Baghdad
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Workshop
4 City of Brass
Creature
1 Gorilla Shaman
1 Sundering Titan
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Goblin Welder
Instant
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Dark Blast
2 Crop Rotation
Sorcery
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Tinker
1 Balance
Artifact
1 Jester's Cap
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Trinisphere
1 Sol Ring
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
2 Crucible of Worlds
3 Tangle Wire
3 Smokestack
4 Sphere of Resistance
Side
4 leyline of the Void
2 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Powder Keg
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Jester's Cap
2 Ray of Revelation
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Helm of Obedience
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madmanmike25
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Re: [Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 18, 2010, 08:47:26 pm »
No room for Mana Crypt?
Why aren't you running Thirst?
Do you need 2 Crop Rotations?
Seems like you are relying on your tutors too much since you have so many 1-ofs, perhaps more consistency maindeck?
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Re: [Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 18, 2010, 09:07:58 pm »
I think the most surprising thing about your deck is that you compliment the 7 strip/waste/rotation with only a single gorilla shaman. Especially with the golem and no chalice of the void, I would expect that you'd want a second shaman, or, if you weren't too afraid of null rod, a copy of karn. Your list looks like you were already running out of room in the deck, but I'd consider swapping the maindeck bridge for another shaman effect.
Otherwise, good luck at the event.
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Rome
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Re: [Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 19, 2010, 11:37:19 am »
@madman
Mana crypt after alot of testing i ended up cutting it due to it being more of a liability durring building my hard lock. Yes its an amazing card and if it were in id sway more towards an aggro shop build.
Thirst is just to costly with 9 sphere effects I tryed to keep my cap on non art spells at 2 (with the exception of tinker of course) and there is only a handfull of non art spells
Crop is just amazing it fetches up those 1 of lands that let me make more diverse plays. it also helps with a bit of fixing if i run into a spot where i have to hardcast something now or a 2 for 1 if they go for a waste or a stirp to crop that land in response.
Relying on tutors is what alot of vintage is about tez the deck oath all use and abuse tutors. this build is alot more consistant on the drawl than you would think.
@ Jovialevil
more times than not the single sham works quite well the only time the moxen and other arts make a big play is on turn 1 after that i tend to have some kind of soft lock hitting making them less of a threat. I am leaning the way of possibly getting Karn or a 2nd monkey in because yea that is huge. The bridge however is something I dont think should be moved from the main board its an answer to pretty much the meta weather it be tinker or oath or even an annoying goyf. I think it would be more likely id move out the solo STP for it if i made that swap.
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Re: [Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 19, 2010, 11:21:47 pm »
This is basically a standard 5-color list (not NYSE, but looks like every other Chang 2005 build), except that you run Golem. A single Jester's Cap is an older trick that I have dropped (slow-but fantastically good, I have friends that will not take it out because it auto-wins versus the aggro-Oath builds).
Ensnaring Bridge does not seem good since you are running beaters.
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Rome
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Re: [Deck] 5c Empire Stax
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February 20, 2010, 12:50:28 pm »
Oh i agree with the cap it was more of a meta call like i said too.
the bridge is a 1 of and is amazing i really sugest you try it. when a tinker or a dredge deck is going off u have another option to get to hold back until you can lock out or regain control.
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