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« on: May 18, 2010, 09:22:24 am »

It had been a while since I last played in a Magic tournament but on Sunday 16th of May I played non-sanctioned Vintage in Breda, the Netherlands. I always enjoy playing in Breda. It’s a very nice venue with food and drinks for reasonable prices, a great atmosphere and competitive players. Some of the best (Vintage) players from the Netherlands and Belgium usually make the trip to Breda. Today we missed some because they chose to go to one of the largest tournaments in Europe for Vintage and Legacy: Bazaar of Moxen 4 in Annecy, France.

And this time I’ve done some playtesting! For some time now I’ve been playing Terastodon Oath, which has been performing really well:

Maindeck (60)

1 Terastodon
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Voltaic Key
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Brainstorm
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Time Vault
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Tezzeret, The Seeker
1 Tinker
1 Jace, The Mindsculptor
1 Time Walk
1 Regrowth
1 Sol Ring
4 Force of Will
4 Spell Pierce
3 Mana Drain
4 Oath of Druids
1 Mana Crypt
1 Echoing Truth
4 Forbidden Orchard
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Library of Alexandrie
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Snow-covered Island
1 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea

Sideboard

2 Yixlid Jailer
2 Show and Tell
1 Massacre
1 Pithing Needle
1 Ravenous Trap
1 Terastodon
3 Thoughtseize
1 Tormod's Crypt
3 Nature's Claim

As you can see I made some minor changes to the main deck. I chose Inkwell Leviathan instead of Sphinx of the Steel Wind because Inkwell proved to be a much better choice for the Fish matchup. As soon as I made the change, I was winning 8 out of 10 games versus fish, only losing to mana problems! In some matchups the Sphinx is definitely better but in preparation for this tournament I made a list of 6 decks that I was likely to face in Breda and added scores of how likely it was I would face them. Judging from that list, Inkwell Leviathan looked like the better choice. I didn’t miss the Sphinx during the tournament but this slot is still under debate. Options are: Inkwell Leviathan, Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.

During testing, I wasn’t too fond of Thirst for Knowledge so I went back to an old time favorite: Echoing Truth. I didn’t use the Echoing Truth once during the tournament, so maybe it just doesn’t belong in the deck. On the other hand, I didn’t really miss the Thirst for Knowledge either. The Echoing Truth just makes me feel more secure… Smile

The sideboard has been very good to me. The one Massacre, together with the extra Terastodon and the Show and Tells have proven to be enough versus Fish.
I went up to 3 Thoughtseizes because of a lousy combo matchup during testing (Drain Tendrils). I had Duress there first but I decided that I wanted Thoughtseize because of all the creatures that get played nowadays. The one great drawback of Thoughtseize is not the life loss but the fact that it can be Misdirected… which happened during testing… and, of course, in the tournament!
Yixlid Jailer is great versus dredge because dredge lists don’t seem to be prepared to deal with the zombie anymore. I don’t mind Oathing into one of these guys versus dredge.
The Tormod's Crypt is there versus dredge and combo.
The Pithing Needle is a great answer for a lot of things and I initially had two. It is worth it to have two, I just couldn’t fit the second.
The second Terastodon gets sided in a lot but I’m thinking of changing it to an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.

So, we arrive at the venue and I see a lot of the regular faces: play level will be high. There’s also a National Qualifier going on, so the room is packed but with more then enough room for everybody and their cards. Some regular Vintage players have chosen to play standard, their mistake really… Smile

We start the tournament with 41 players, so that’s six rounds of Swiss and a top 8. Main price is a Mox emerald, second price is a Mana Drain, a Tropical Island for third and a Tundra for fourth. Off we go…

As always, if I get anything wrong, please correct me and sorry if I didn’t get your full name, or if I spell it the wrong way. All my opponents were friendly and cool.

First round comes up and I’m a little bit nervous. It’s been a while since I last played a tournament and ready or not, I always like to play well and get some result. My aim is to always top 8 and then see what I can get. Last two tournaments I got 9th but was happy nonetheless: I didn’t play too badly, made several mistakes but was able to spot them.
I believe you should set yourself a goal but also enjoy the experience and at least learn as much as you can. Playing Magic with your friends at the club every week is an entirely different experience then actually playing in a tournament. You’ll face people you don’t know as well, neither will you know their decks.

Round 1: Sybrand with Salvager Combo

Game 1: I see an Ancient Den and a Seat of the Synod so I’m a little bit confused what I’m up against and put him on some sort of affinity (In hindsight, his opening lands might actually have been just a Plains and an Island. They were foil and from my perspective looked to be the artifact lands…). I assemble Oath of Druids and Forbidden Orchard and Inkwell enters play. At my end of turn step, Sybrand Repeals his Spirit token and I let it resolve. In his upkeep I could have given him a new token with my Forbidden Orchard but I wanted to keep my mana open for the Mana Drain in my hand. I also thought he wouldn’t Oath into something really threatening because I was expecting a ravager or something similar. I’m totally caught off guard when I see Auriok Salvagers hit play and he finishes me off with a Force of Will for my Mana Drain. First game and I lose… nice…

I made a mistake here. Well, maybe several but the most important one was this: in my turn I played Tolarian Academy to destroy his Tolarian Academy and thus depriving him of some mana. If I would have played my other land –I believe it was an Underground Sea- I could have given him a token with my Forbidden Orchard and still have two blue mana up for my Mana Drain. Moreover, it was futile to deny him the mana from the Tolarian Academy because he had two land and a Sol Ring (and a tapped Mana Vault) on his side of the battlefield. He wouldn’t have been able to Oath and I would have been still alive…

For the first time ever, I wrote down my sideboard strategies before the tournament to save me some headaches during play. Thanks to testing, I came up with strategies that may not be the best but at least seemed to work. Of course, I never tested the Salvagers matchup so I still had to think of something new:

+3 Thoughtseize, +1 Tormod’s Crypt
-1 Forest, -1 Island, -1 Spell Pierce, -1 Merchant Scroll

Game 2: is a lot better on my part. I resolve Oath and get Terastodon, which nukes his mana sources and wins the game together with Iona, Shield of Emeria on blue.

+1 Pithing Needle
-1 Island

Game 3: goes great. I think I resolved Time Vault + Voltaic Key here.

Round 2: Brenda Schurkens with Terastodon Oath

I’ve faced Brenda a few times in Vintage and Legacy tournaments and it’s always fun. Too bad for her I’ve tested the mirror sufficiently. The Thoughtseizes – they also grab creatures if necessary- and Show and Tells make a lot of difference.
I win in two games. In the second game I open with Thoughtseize and see 3 Forbiddan Orchards! I just have two copies, so I take her counter backup and counter her Oath of Druids.

+3 Thoughtseize, +2 Show and Tell
-1 Forest, -1 Island, -3 Oath of Druids

See you next time Brenda!

Round 3: Alex with a very peculiar kind of Fish

Aha! A chance to test my deck against a Fish variant in tournament play! I was very interested in this matchup because in testing my deck looked superior. Now came the time to prove it in tournament play.

Game 1: I lose… He surprised me with his very strange build, including Shorecrasher Mimic and Favour of the Overbeing. It was a close game and in the last turn, he topdecked Favour of the Overbeing to fly his now 7/5 Shorecrasher Mimic-do-everything over my Inkwell Leviathan for the kill.

+2 Thoughtseize, +1 Pithing Needle, +1 Massacre, +2 Show and Tell, +1 Terastodon
-1 Tezzeret the Seeker, -1 Voltaic Key, -1 Time Vault, -4 Spell Pierce

Game 2 and 3: I just need to get Oath of Druids down and Qasali Pridemage off the board –or Pithing Needled- and I know I’ll win. Massacre and Show and Tell help a lot too. Inkwell Leviathan can still be raced but not with Massacre backup. One 9/9 elephant and 3 3/3 Elephants helped a lot too. I win.

So far so good…

Round 4: Gerwin Ruijterkamp with Dredge

Another matchup I tested… but with less satisfying results. It’s a coin flip, your opening hand just needs to really be good enough. Don’t hope to draw anything, mulligan until you’re happy/confident! Be very fast or have enough hate after sideboard. Don’t think you can hold on to your cards for more then a turn because Cabal Therapy WILL rape you.

I’ve seen Gerwin play before and I know he’s a good player, so I need to step up.

Game 1: there’s just nothing I can do to stop him, even though he didn’t hit a dredger for two turns… so obviously, I didn’t mulligan enough! Always mulligan until you’re happy/confident!

+2 Yixlid Jailer, +1 Ravenous Trap, +1 Tormod’s Crypt, +1 Pithing Needle, +1 Terastodon
-1 Forest, -1 Island, -1 Merchant Scroll, -1 Inkwell Leviathan, -2 Mana Drain

Game 2: I don’t mulligan until I’m happy/confident, so… I lose! Always mulligan until you’re happy/confident!

Sigh… I know what I did wrong and I’ll never do it again, I promise!

I stay focused and remind myself to have fun and take things as they come. Just stay focused and enjoy the tournament.

Round 5: Jeroen Schaffhausen with Show and Tell/Sneak Attack an Eldrazi into play.deck

I’ve met Jeroen several times as well, in Legacy and Vintage tournaments and games are always very intense. I like playing against him because I cannot make any mistakes or I’ll lose. He’s a very good player and he punishes you if you screw up with the rules. He’ll always call a judge on you and you’ll get warnings or worse. It may seem harsh sometimes, especially in a vintage setting where a lot of people come to play just for fun, but I think he does the right thing. Even though I don’t like it sometimes, it’s the only way you’ll tighten up your play…

Game 1: I saw Jeroen Show and Tell an Emrakul into play earlier on the day so I put him on Oath, even though I noticed the Volcanic Islands. I should have watched that game a little longer because he surprised me with a Sneak Attack, after I countered his first Show and Tell.
But by then, I had already messed things up myself: I had cast two Oath of Druids off a lotus and a fetchland. There’s absolutely NO reason to do that, especially if you have a Spell Pierce in your opening seven… I sit with two Oaths and no mana to spare as he casts his Ancestral Recall in his first turn. Two turns later I’m toast. I’m not sure if the outcome would have been different but it was definitely a big mistake on my part.

Another matchup I’m not prepared for (I didn’t even know the deck existed)! So I cook up this:

+3 Thoughtseize
-1 Forest, -1 Island, Oath of Druids (I feel like I should have sided out the extra Snow-Covered Island instead)

Game 2: goes long and I keep drawing land. On my first turn I’ve played an Underground Sea, Mox Ruby and Voltaic Key. I decide I’m going to rush him and on his first turn I Vampiric Tutor for the Time Vault. Ok, again, there was NO reason to do that really. If testing has shown me anything it’s that you don’t need to rush things. Take your time, you’ll get the mana sources, the countermeasures and then you can safely –as best as possible- go for the win. I guess I got a little scared of Emrakul showing up in a hurry. Luckily for me I decided to hold on to that Time Vault and play my mistake as best as I could.
I start drawing Oaths of Druids and play those to draw counterspells, threatening to have gotten Forbidden Orchard with my Vampiric Tutor. He counters my Oaths and I keep on playing lands and moxen while he doesn’t really develop his board. At some point I have a Black Lotus sitting in my hand next to my Time Vault for a few turns and seven permanents on the board, counting the Voltaic Key. Jeroen goes for a Sneak Attack, putting Emrakul into play and attacking. I drop to two life, sacrifice my 6 mana sources, leaving my Voltaic Key on the battlefield, thinking I need to draw a land in my next two draws to win, or I’ll just lose. I draw one of my creatures and drop the Black Lotus and Time Vault to take an extra turn… and… in that extra turn… I draw… an Underground Sea! I win!
Jeroen lets me play it out to see if I make any mistakes but I don’t and so I win with Tinker for Inkwell Leviathan.

I fake some sideboarding but don’t really change anything… heh

Game 3: Terastodon nukes his mana sources, I Regrowth a Mana Drain just to be sure and win with the big elephant and one of his smaller brothers.

Hard games! I’m sure to see you at the next tournament Jeroen and congratulations with your frightening build. Jeroen just missed top 8.

Round 6: ID with Bram Patelski playing Salvagers Combo (there were a lot of those present, two made top 8)

I can’t believe it but I’ve finally made top 8 again. Off course I’m happy but I want to consolidate and get something more out of it!

Top 8, round 1: Gerwin Ruijterkamp with Dredge

Ai! Dredge again… my round 4 opponent. But this time I won’t make the same mistake, I’ll mulligan until I’m happy/confident!

Game 1: I get to start and my opening seven is insane with Black Lotus, Misty Rainforest, Gifts Ungiven, Yawgmoth’s Will, Tinker, Forbidden Orchard and Force of Will. I play the Gifts Ungiven for Time Vault, Voltaic Key, Time Walk and Mana Crypt. The Time Walk should have been a Mox because he could have given me Voltaic Key and Time Vault and I would have had to wait a turn, which can easily mean death against Dredge. He gives me Mana Crypt and Voltaic Key and I win the next turn because he cannot Cabal Therapy me enough to get rid of the Yawgmoth’s Will!

How about that, I won the first game against Dredge!

Ok, yes my hand was insane…

+2 Yixlid Jailer, +1 Ravenous Trap, +1 Tormod’s Crypt, +1 Pithing Needle, +1 Terastodon
-1 Forest, -1 Island, -1 Inkwell Leviathan, -3 Mana Drain

Game 2: I don’t take a mulligan when I should and… you know… I lose! Always mulligan until you’re happy/confident!!! Dammit!!!

Game 3: ok, so you’d think I’d have learned my lesson now don’t you? Well… Yes I did because I take a mulligan! And my six are devastating: Tormod’s Crypt, Pithing Needle, fetchland, Mox Ruby, Ravenous Trap and Spell Pierce. Gerwin has to mull to 5. This looks good and indeed, I soon win with a Time Vault from Tezzeret. Jace also helped to look at a lot of cards really fast.

Top 8, round 2 Bram Patelski with Salvagers Combo

Game 1: he starts with a Mox, Tolarian Academy, Voltaic Key and Time Vault and I don’t have a Force of Will… and one draw to solve this. Nice… I draw a creature, lay down Library of Alexandria and draw another creature, I’m dead.

+3 Thoughtseize, +1 Tormod’s Crypt, +1 Pithing Needle
-1 Forest, -1 Island, -1 Snow-Covered Island, -1 Spell Pierce, -1 Merchant Scroll

Game 2: goes long and I take several hits from my Mana Crypt (it could have been worse. Maybe I need to sideboard the Crypt out more in control matchups but I like it’s explosiveness too much. Maybe I should put a land back in for the Mana Crypt?). He gets a proxied Seal of Cleansing on the battlefield and I’m stuck with Time Vault in my hand and Voltaic Key on my side of the battlefield. But I also have Tinker in hand which I would like to resolve.
So I threaten with Time Vault, also to get him to go below 7 cards in hand because he has Library of Alexandria, he counters (forgetting about his Seal of Cleansing which is just a Mountain with text on it), I get it back with Regrowth, he Seals it. I Thoughtseize him, he Misdirects it back to me –I told you it was going to happen- and I Force of Will his Misdirection. I see two Auriok Salvagers, a Swords to Plowshares, a Force of Will and two lands. I decide to take his Force of Will and then I’m ready to go for Tinker for Inkwell which resolves. He plays both his Auriok Salvagers and with that I cannot attack him anymore with Inkwell Leviathan because I’m at 7 life… Two turns later he combos and I cannot stop him from doing so.
Going this route, I think I should have taken an Auriok Salvagers with my Thoughtseize so I could race with Inkwell Leviathan.

In hindsight, what I really should have done, was to Tinker for Pithing Needle naming Seal of Cleansing and then play my Time Vault. I knew at the time that I was playing it wrong. You live, you learn…

So I played the semi-finals and think I’m 4th but looking here I seem to have ended 7th. Whatever, I’m very happy with the result and I get a very nice looking Tundra for my efforts! Smile

All in all a great day! I played a lot, learned a lot and had a great time!

Thanks Arjan en Marius for the great event and see you next time.
Thank you reader for getting this far, I hope it was worth your time.

Greetings,

Robrecht

P.S. Sorry Arjan, it’s not RND Oath. I’m playing with Mana Drains so I have to credit mister Carp for this version! Smile
Also thanks to Team RND and Rich Shay for the starting list! Rich Shay in particular for his very insightful report.

EDIT: spelling and confidant is not the same as confident... thanks duncan!
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 09:33:27 am »

Great report! Thanks for writing it up... it was great seeing you again and seeing you perform well. I hope you'll get to play more, maybe one day we'll even face each other.

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P.S. Sorry Arjan, it’s not RND Oath. I’m playing with Mana Drains so I have to credit mister Carp for this version!
Also thanks to Team RND and Rich Shay for the starting list! Rich Shay in particular for his very insightful report.
Thanks for the props, I namend it RND Oath in my Meta breakdown because it looked very similar to our base list, I think most of us also run Drains (but Rich didn't)

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So I played the semi-finals and think I’m 4th but looking here I seem to have ended 7th. Whatever, I’m very happy with the result and I get a very nice looking Tundra for my efforts!
Top 8 lists were based on standings after swiss not after top 8 Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 09:48:54 am »

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So I played the semi-finals and think I’m 4th but looking here I seem to have ended 7th. Whatever, I’m very happy with the result and I get a very nice looking Tundra for my efforts!
Top 8 lists were based on standings after swiss not after top 8 Wink

Yeah, I just noticed... Smile

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 02:42:01 am »

Hey Robrecht!

First of all, thanks for the report and congratulations on your finish!

I didn’t miss the Sphinx during the tournament but this slot is still under debate. Options are: Inkwell Leviathan, Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.
You are aware of the fact that Emrakul is colorless, but not an artifact, so it can't be Tinkered out? I find it hard to justify an oath list with Tinker without a robot, since that's your easiest route to victory against Fish-style decks.

There’s also a National Qualifier going on, so the room is packed but with more then enough room for everybody and their cards. Some regular Vintage players have chosen to play standard, their mistake really… Smile
I assume you're looking at me? Razz Next time I'll definately be playing Vintage again! It was nice to have time to watch some Vintage matches without having a stake in the outcome though.

Round 3: Alex with a very peculiar kind of Fish
Alex is a friend of mine (not my little brother, as I heard some of you assumed). His list is very different than normal kinds of Fish decks. Let me explain why: twice a year we have this tournament with some friends where our deck can not cost more than thirty euros at the local online cardshop. This was the deck he finished 2nd with at our latest tournament and since he basically had not played Magic since then he decided to just add some power, a better manabase, tarmogoyfs and gaddock teeg and try it in Breda. His shell of Shorecaster Mimic, Slippery Bogle (!) and Favor of the Overbeing remained the same. It was very nice to see him win three of his matches Very Happy

Don’t hope to draw anything, mulligan until you’re happy/confidant! Be very fast or have enough hate after sideboard. Don’t think you can hold on to your cards for more then a turn because Cabal Therapy WILL rape you.
Actually, it's confident Wink Confidant is a whole other (perhaps better) thing Razz

Anyways, see you next time and hopefully we can play some games then!
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 03:20:06 am »

I didn’t miss the Sphinx during the tournament but this slot is still under debate. Options are: Inkwell Leviathan, Sphinx of the Steel Wind and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.
You are aware of the fact that Emrakul is colorless, but not an artifact, so it can't be Tinkered out? I find it hard to justify an oath list with Tinker without a robot, since that's your easiest route to victory against Fish-style decks.

Yes I did realize and I would not play the deck without Tinker -> robot. I didn't test Emrakul yet so it remains to be seen of he/she/it is worth it...

There’s also a National Qualifier going on, so the room is packed but with more then enough room for everybody and their cards. Some regular Vintage players have chosen to play standard, their mistake really… Smile
I assume you're looking at me? Razz

 Very Happy

Don’t hope to draw anything, mulligan until you’re happy/confidant! Be very fast or have enough hate after sideboard. Don’t think you can hold on to your cards for more then a turn because Cabal Therapy WILL rape yo
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Actually, it's confident Wink Confidant is a whole other (perhaps better) thing Razz

Anyways, see you next time and hopefully we can play some games then!

I edited my report...

See you next time! We still have a score to settle! Smile

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 04:55:37 am »

Congratulations on your finish!
 
It appears I made a horrible misplay there in our quarterfinal match. At the time you played Gifts, I had put my second Bazaar into play, so I would have won next turn. Somehow i had the idea that you would be able to activate the Time Vault next turn, but at that point you only had two lands... You had a third land in hand, but no other manasources so indeed, you would have been unable to take infinite turns... Good to see my error, I'll try to learn from it Smile

The third game in the quarterfinal, you had a Library of Alexandria instead of the fetchland. We were having some turns of draw-go before you got the colored source, you even had to activate the library before you had it. At that point, I had two Nature's Claims in hand, but by the time my colored mana showed up, you had Spell Pierce mana available.

Too bad, but I had some good games and was lucky that my opponents did not draw enormous amounts of hate. (That last match really was an exception) In the end I got a Volcanic and my brother got a Mana Crypt, so it was a good day all the same.

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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 05:15:24 am »

It appears I made a horrible misplay there in our quarterfinal match. At the time you played Gifts, I had put my second Bazaar into play, so I would have won next turn. Somehow i had the idea that you would be able to activate the Time Vault next turn, but at that point you only had two lands... You had a third land in hand, but no other manasources so indeed, you would have been unable to take infinite turns... Good to see my error, I'll try to learn from it Smile

Indeed! Then the play mistake would have been mine: not including a mox in the pile. There was no reason to put the Time Walk in there. I just miscalculated because I didn't consider the fact that you could give me Time Vault AND Voltaic Key! I was too focused on the Yawgmoth's Will and getting my Black Lotus back...
The guy sitting next to you spotted it though.

The third game in the quarterfinal, you had a Library of Alexandria instead of the fetchland. We were having some turns of draw-go before you got the colored source, you even had to activate the library before you had it. At that point, I had two Nature's Claims in hand, but by the time my colored mana showed up, you had Spell Pierce mana available.

Correct! It took me several turns to find a colored source. Luckily for me you didn't get a colored source either and I had enough hate. I had also drawn a Force of Will earlier to prevent anything bad happening to my Pithing Needle on Bazaar of Baghdad.

Very intense games!

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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 10:52:14 am »

hey nice report, enjoyed reading it.

I wanted to come, but didnt find transport, and this time I did not want to take the train.

does anyone have the sneak attack emrakul deck? looks like fun!

I think Marcels bomberman deck is actually pretty good, he always goes top with that deck, and has won at least one tournament with it. its a deck no one expects, yet has most silver bullets that tez decks have for example.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010, 02:48:33 am »

Congrats! Keep up the good work. Those 2-weekly testing sessions seem to work for our group. Smile
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 11:39:24 am »

thanks for the support chrisssss. lets hope it stays a suprice, so everyone..... dont build it Razz
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