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« on: July 03, 2010, 03:04:54 am » |
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 Can be brought up with trinket mage, colorless creauture removal. easier to play than duplicant. awesome card. wont have wide applications but is vintage playable imo
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grungyboy
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 04:34:15 am » |
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definitely Vintage playable; possible solution to stinkin' Sphinx of the Steelwind..i wonder if this could be used in an RG beats deck to the fact that this is an artifact...
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Gruul Anti-Mage  {G} Creature -- Human Berserker 2/2   , Sacrifice Gruul Anti-Mage: Gruul Anti-Mage deals 2 damage to target creature or player.  , Sacrifice Gruul Anti-Mage: Destroy target artifact or enchantment. He breaks your face with ruin and rage.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 08:44:09 am » |
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Workshop cannot activate it though. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 09:19:14 am » |
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Exile instead of destroy is cute, but how much does that really matter? Welders aren't so common these days, and most decks I can think of don't bother reanimating stuff that you kill. I think most try to just protect the threat or disrupt you long enough to bash your skull in.
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
Much like humanity itself.
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BruiZar
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 09:41:09 am » |
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This card has a place in a deck like bomberman where trinket mage can tutor up a singleton Effigy as an answer to a nasty tinkerbot. Sure, it won't have wide applications in many decks and it's definately not a four off, but I see it as a powerful toolbox card.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 12:42:14 pm » |
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I'm unclear how this is any way, shape, or form better than Aether spellbomb in the context of bomberman.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 01:01:54 pm » |
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Iona :X
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Shuffles, much like commas, are useful for altering tempo to add feeling.
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BruiZar
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 02:16:58 pm » |
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You are probably right, Aether Spellbomb is already better than this.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2010, 03:09:33 pm » |
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Iona :X Are you trying to imply that Iona prevents the casting of Aether Spellbomb?
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
Much like humanity itself.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2010, 03:42:52 pm » |
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It's alot worse than duppliquant in Workshop decks, simply because for 1 less mana than dupp, you won't be able to use it against fish and mirror, because of null rod...
And against oath, be able to sometimes oath up duppliquant makes it better than this too.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 07:23:31 am » |
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definitely Vintage playable; possible solution to stinkin' Sphinx of the Steelwind..i wonder if this could be used in an RG beats deck to the fact that this is an artifact...
RG needs to cut Null Rod if it want's to play this. Probably not that good. Better splash white for Swords to Plowshares. Or Sculpting Steel.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 08:21:11 am » |
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RG needs to cut Null Rod if it want's to play this. Probably not that good.
i never ever liked and ran Null rod in a RG deck...
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 08:39:44 am » |
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Since people have already excluded this from being playable in Shop decks and are now bringing up R/G beats decks (seriously?!) that need to cut Null Rod in order to make this good (Indeed Tobi called it, best splash for STP) we can safely assume this card isn't doing anything highly relevant. On a side note, everything barring Banned cards IS vintage playable, that doesn't mean it's a viable and / or a better solution then we already have..... I'm pretty close to locking this thread under the rule of "WTF Guys, Seriously"... This post also should indicate what I think of this card 
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2010, 05:05:01 pm » |
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Pretty good aggro answer to Oath creatures, especially ones playing Emrakul or Gaea's Blessing. I think Bruizar has a point that it could it fit a Bomberman deck since it's fetchable with Trinket Mage. The problem is, against Null Rod decks Bomberman still has some bad weaknesses.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 05:26:45 pm » |
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Pretty good aggro answer to Oath creatures, especially ones playing Emrakul or Gaea's Blessing. I think Bruizar has a point that it could it fit a Bomberman deck since it's fetchable with Trinket Mage. The problem is, against Null Rod decks Bomberman still has some bad weaknesses.
Again Oath, it's infinitely worst than Spellbomb, cost much more to activate and doesn't cantrip. For most other creature matchups, unless the game really drags on (and it shouldn't if there is no Null Rod in play), usually bouncing a creature is enough. I'd still rather have a cantrip than a useless card against matchups will little creatures.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2010, 06:29:30 pm » |
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This post also should indicate what I think of this card  I think this means you LOVE this card. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2010, 07:33:18 pm » |
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Pretty good aggro answer to Oath creatures, especially ones playing Emrakul or Gaea's Blessing. I think Bruizar has a point that it could it fit a Bomberman deck since it's fetchable with Trinket Mage. The problem is, against Null Rod decks Bomberman still has some bad weaknesses.
Again Oath, it's infinitely worst than Spellbomb, cost much more to activate and doesn't cantrip. Infinitely? Really? Oath decks do pack Show and Tell, so bouncing a creature isn't always optimum. Exiling one is still useful IMO. Now, I do admit, we are talking about Bomberman here, so what's the dif, right? It is just a fun card to think about since it's just so easy to play.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 07:53:40 pm » |
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Pretty good aggro answer to Oath creatures, especially ones playing Emrakul or Gaea's Blessing. I think Bruizar has a point that it could it fit a Bomberman deck since it's fetchable with Trinket Mage. The problem is, against Null Rod decks Bomberman still has some bad weaknesses.
Again Oath, it's infinitely worst than Spellbomb, cost much more to activate and doesn't cantrip. Infinitely? Really? Oath decks do pack Show and Tell, so bouncing a creature isn't always optimum. Exiling one is still useful IMO. Now, I do admit, we are talking about Bomberman here, so what's the dif, right? It is just a fun card to think about since it's just so easy to play. Define "so easy to play", it costs 4 to activate. Well, to me, this is too slow and narrow to be maindecked, and after side, you will just pack STP if you want to remove a creature efficiently. 90% of the time, the Spellbomb will be more useful.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 11:47:19 pm » |
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Iona :X Are you trying to imply that Iona prevents the casting of Aether Spellbomb? No, just stating a possible use.
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Shuffles, much like commas, are useful for altering tempo to add feeling.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 03:06:53 pm » |
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Iona :X Are you trying to imply that Iona prevents the casting of Aether Spellbomb? No, just stating a possible use. My bad. It looked like you were responding to JR, which led me to think you were saying Effigy worked but Spellbomb didn't.
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
Much like humanity itself.
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