arctic79
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« on: July 26, 2010, 08:34:16 pm » |
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So Killane and I are sitting around at FNM the other night discussing Bruizars deck, the new Leylines and how Dredge seems to be insanely good right now. It dawned on us that a Leyline based deck might be a little to much hate for Dredge to deal with as well as TPS and some other decks. So this is the bones of what we thought of and I will try to find the time to build it and test it. The idea is to drop a few turn zero leylines then power out Opalescence and swing for the win. Any ideas would be welcome because this really needs work.
The Bones x15 4x Lot Void- Good against almost every deck 4x Lot Sanctity- Good against Combo 4x Lot Singularity- Better then it looks against so many decks that need permanents in play. 2x Opalescence - Make those Leylines work for you 1x Helm of Obedience- D'uh
The Control x14 4x FoW 4x Mana Drain 1x Misdirection 4x Standstill 1x Hurkyl's Recall
Tutoring x9 1x Brainstorm 1x Ancestrall Recall 1x Demonic Tutor 1x Vampiric Tutor 2x Enlightened Tutor 2x SDT 1x Ponder
Acceleration x22 5x Moxen 1x Black Lotus 4x Tundra 4x Underground Sea 3x Flooded Strand 3x Polluted Delta 2x Mishra's Factory
Optional Cards Greater Auramancy Orim's Chant Academy Rector Dark Tutalage Jace, The Mindsculpter Dark Confident Enduring Ideal (seems to want to be in but need a hard lock to justify the risk and cost) Solitary Confinement
Even if this ends up being a deck for fun I think maindecking leylines in the current meta is not out of the realm of possiblity. And if you got a laugh out of this that is cool too.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 09:39:35 pm » |
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I made an attempt at this deck, and to be honest its not very consistent, BUT it CAN have explosive time.
I personally ran mine with 4 replenish, 4 serra's sanctum, and 4 bazaar of baghdad so I could mill thru the leylines and opalesences later, then cast replenish, and swing next turn.
I also ran Necrotepence/Yawgmoth's Bargain in my, along with 2 Second chance, and crap enchantment that lets you take an extra turn if you have 5 or less life, the idea is to bazaar away a bargain or necro and second chance along with w/e enchatments, then replenish them all, pay X life to necro or bargain, then take the extra turn to swing with the animated enchatments.
With 4 serra's sanctum and 4 bazaar tho, playing mana drain is a lil harder. lol.
Its gonna be hard to get this to work, but good luck, and keep trying.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 10:10:11 pm » |
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I made an attempt at this deck, and to be honest its not very consistent, BUT it CAN have explosive time.
I personally ran mine with 4 replenish, 4 serra's sanctum, and 4 bazaar of baghdad so I could mill thru the leylines and opalesences later, then cast replenish, and swing next turn.
I also ran Necrotepence/Yawgmoth's Bargain in my, along with 2 Second chance, and crap enchantment that lets you take an extra turn if you have 5 or less life, the idea is to bazaar away a bargain or necro and second chance along with w/e enchatments, then replenish them all, pay X life to necro or bargain, then take the extra turn to swing with the animated enchatments.
With 4 serra's sanctum and 4 bazaar tho, playing mana drain is a lil harder. lol.
Its gonna be hard to get this to work, but good luck, and keep trying.
Yeah Agreed. I think that if they were to print 1 or 2 more busted Leylines then the deck could be legit for sure. You'd run Serum Powder to Sculpt the perfect hand and then the 4 Sanctum and 4 Bazaar for consistency and, of course the 4 Replenish. It'd be cool if they printed 2 more Leylines of the power level of Sanctity and Void, but I betcha they won't because they will have thought of this deck. Here's to hoping though! -Storm
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 11:38:39 pm » |
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On a strictly casual level, I tried a deck with a bunch of Leylines, 4 Serra's Sanctum, 4 Opalescence, Helm of Obedience, cheap tutoring like Crop Rotation, Enlightened Tutor, etc. etc. and it would win in the first two turns or lose altogether.
I think some deck with more resilience (like yours) would be needed to be competitive. Perhaps including Raven's Crime and Life from the Loam or the like would be better than a simple attempt at lightning speed.
Off the top of my head, here is what I played some fun games with on MWS...
4 Leyline of the Void 4 Leyline of Singularity 4 Leyline of Sanctity 4 Leyline of Anticipation 4 Leyline of Lightning 4 Leyline of Punishment
4 Opalescence 1 Helm of Obedience
4 Serum Powder 4 Enligtened Tutor 4 Crop Rotation
4 Serra's Sanctum 4 Bazaar of Baghdad 2 Riftstone Portal 4 Savannah 5 G fetches
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 11:49:20 pm » |
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I agree if there were one or two more Leylines with the same power level as Void and Sanctitiy it could get nuts. I like the idea of Raven's Crime, especially if I went the Bazaar route with replenish. Leyline of Anticipation is tempting because there are so many sorcery speed spells that would be great at instant speed, but there is only so much room. I forgot all about Serra's Sanctum, definetely worth a try.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 10:35:23 am » |
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Man, if you can get this to work it will surely be the funniest deck ever! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
On a more serious level, I like the shell, and the idea of using Bazaar and Sanctum. Do you think you can make the mana work to still support drains? i also think Replenish seems like a natural fit for this sort of thing, what with the Bazaar synergy.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 06:44:15 pm » |
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If I am going to shift the deck to the Bazaar engine, Drains would be cut for black discard, I think something along the lines of Dawn of the Dead (likely) control suite or Parfait (remote possiblity).
@Killane I will try and have it built in the next couple of weeks for us to play test....I'ld have it done sooner but life is pretty busy.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 08:41:40 pm » |
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Remember, you don't necessarily need Black or Blue for protection, we still have Orims Chant, Abeyance (my original version had 3 and 3 of these), that way you "only" need 5 mana to go chat>replenish ftw. You could also add green if going the riftstone portal route for both Autumn's Veil and/or City of Solitude (which can be hardcast or replenished into play) letting you do whatever you want. Im glad you like the bazaar/sanctum route, I found it to be the best as well. Also with the inclusion of green you have access to Crop rotation. So something along the lines of 4 Void 4 Blue leyline 4 White Leyline 4 crop rotation 4 bazaar 4 sanctum 2-3 riftstone 4 tundra 4 Savanah 4 E. Tutor 4 Opalensecen 4 city of solitude 10 SoloMox Vautl/Crypt/Petal 7 x Chant/Abeyance/Viel Sideboard: 4 x Energy Flux/Serenity (even tho it blows up your enchantments, you still have replenish, MUD does not play any graveyard recursion, at least not most) 4 x Propaganda 4 x Oblivion Ring 3 x ????? Obv not the most optimal build, but a good base I would think to start with. Also another idea is Pursuit of Knowledge, you can bazaar during your Upkp, put 2 counters on it, discard your hand, then put the 3rd counter on it during draw step and draw 7. Not a bad thing. Or so I heard.  Keep it up good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 01:59:43 am » |
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Remember, you don't necessarily need Black or Blue for protection, we still have Orims Chant, Abeyance (my original version had 3 and 3 of these), that way you "only" need 5 mana to go chat>replenish ftw. You could also add green if going the riftstone portal route for both Autumn's Veil and/or City of Solitude (which can be hardcast or replenished into play) letting you do whatever you want. Im glad you like the bazaar/sanctum route, I found it to be the best as well. Also with the inclusion of green you have access to Crop rotation. So something along the lines of 4 Void 4 Blue leyline 4 White Leyline 4 crop rotation 4 bazaar 4 sanctum 2-3 riftstone 4 tundra 4 Savanah 4 E. Tutor 4 Opalensecen 4 city of solitude 10 SoloMox Vautl/Crypt/Petal 7 x Chant/Abeyance/Viel Sideboard: 4 x Energy Flux/Serenity (even tho it blows up your enchantments, you still have replenish, MUD does not play any graveyard recursion, at least not most) 4 x Propaganda 4 x Oblivion Ring 3 x ????? Obv not the most optimal build, but a good base I would think to start with. Also another idea is Pursuit of Knowledge, you can bazaar during your Upkp, put 2 counters on it, discard your hand, then put the 3rd counter on it during draw step and draw 7. Not a bad thing. Or so I heard.  Keep it up good luck. That deck would be slow, slow, slow. Before the M11 Leylines were available, 20 Leylines were not enough in the "Leyline Deck Wins" Legacy builds that were attempted for a consistently fast combo finish. With only 12 Leylines, you should ignore Enlightened Tutor altogether, hope that Bazaar finds Opalescence, and use tutoring and your draw engine strictly for Replenish. Also, the only fast mana I think you need is Black Lotus and Mana Crypt. If it doesn't seriously help you cast Opalescence or Replenish quickly, it probably isn't worth considering. Silence is probably better than Abeyance in this deck. It's too bad you're winning with attack phases so Pact of Negation isn't an option.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 03:39:23 am » |
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Dudes, I'm missing Karakas! If you're playing singularity, please play Karakas cause it's maze of ith on crack that taps for mana. If I am going to shift the deck to the Bazaar engine, Drains would be cut for black discard, I think something along the lines of Dawn of the Dead (likely) control suite or Parfait (remote possiblity).
@Killane I will try and have it built in the next couple of weeks for us to play test....I'ld have it done sooner but life is pretty busy.
Circular Logic is also pretty good with Bazaar, but I guess blue mana competes with the Sanctum drop and the Bazaar Drop You could also consider running Copy Artifacts. These are golden in the MUD/Workshop matchup (Sculpting Steel is already great, now you have an enchantment that does the same!) With Leyline of Singularity it will cause your opponent to sacrifice the chosen artifact (Gets rid of Inkwell, because it doesn't target and triggers Legendary rule. Copies all other major artifacts too, besides lotus cause it will get cracked  ). Singularity is very good against 13 spheres.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 12:51:18 pm » |
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Dudes, I'm missing Karakas! If you're playing singularity, please play Karakas cause it's maze of ith on crack that taps for mana. Singularity + Replenish = Bad Times.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 01:17:43 pm » |
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 12:03:38 pm » |
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Since we're using crop rotation I have some land to consider. 1X strip mine, 2X Bojuka Bog. This will give you instant GY removal and LD without seriously affecting your deck. Then with the Leyline of Singularity, you could mainboard Chrome Mox for doubles of Leylines in your hand. I would also recommend Sterling Grove as it protects your enchantments as well as searches for them.
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