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« on: November 04, 2010, 09:46:26 pm »

The second iteration of the Grudge Match is coming to New York on January 8th of 2011.

For starters, here’s the basic information:

When:

Saturday, January 8th, 2011.
Registration begins at 11am.
Round one begins at 12pm prompt.

What:

$30, 15 proxy non-sanctioned Vintage tournament.  Deck registration sheets will be in use.  1st place prize of an Unlimited Black Lotus is guaranteed.  All additional prizes are dependent upon the number of entrants.

The prize structure (at 50 entrants):

1st – Unlimited Black Lotus
2nd – Unlimited Timetwister
3rd/4th - Revised Underground Sea
5th-8th – Force of Will

The prize structure (at 60 entrants):

1st – Unlimited Black Lotus
2nd – Unlimited Timetwister
3rd/4th – 2 Jace the Mind Sculptor to each player
5th-8th – Italian Mana Drain

The prize structure (at 70 entrants):

1st – Unlimited Black Lotus
2nd – Unlimited Mox Jet/Unlimited Time Walk (to be confirmed)
3rd/4th – Library of Alexandria
5th-8th - Italian Mana Drain

There may be additional credit thrown on top of this prize structure, but it depends on what the cost of the 2nd place prize ends up as.

Obviously there isn’t the greatest of chances that we hit an exact number like 50, 60 or 70.  The prizes will be scaled up accordingly regardless.  Don’t worry, if we hit 55, 65 or 75 players, there will be more given out.  There will be a Sportsmanship prize for this event, along with a mystery 9th place prize.  

Side Events:

There will be side events running throughout the day.  Side events will be run as 12 man pods, single elimination, with $10 entry.  Support for these events will depend upon what is available with the dealer on the day of the event, but think something in the $100 range going to first.  

Brothers Grim will also be running non-sanctioned drafts throughout the day.  So if you’re looking to play something newer (re: worse) than Vintage, it will be available to you.

Byes:

I have generally given all players who have won a major event since the last N.Y.S.E Lotus tournament a bye at my next Lotus tournament.  Historically I have been supported primarily by the Mid Atlantic corridor players, which meant that byes were available to N.Y.S.E. and Blue Bell winners.  With the advent of Bloomsburg Vintage, with a Waterbury having happened so recently, and with the winner of the last Grudge Match all deserving byes, the list of players is slightly longer than in the past.  I don’t have a full list of the Blue Bell winners in front of me, so if you won Blue Bell (or know who did) in September/October, please let me know.

The list, as it stands now:

1.    Shawn Griffiths (N.Y.S.E. XI)
2.    Sean Higgins (N.Y.S.E. XII)
3.    Carl Rumbel (Bloomsburg Vintage 4)
4.    Joe Brown (Grudge Match I Winner)
5.    Steve Nowakowski (Bloomsburg Vintage 3)
6.    Jeff Folinus (Blue Bell Game Day 8 Winner)
7.    Dave Reitnauer (Blue Bell Game Day 9 Winner)
8.    Ashok Chitturi (2nd place at Waterbury, passed from Joe Brown)
9.    Sam Berse – (Blue Bell Game Day 10 Winner)
10.  Allen Fulmer (Council Open 2)
11.  Andrew Keeton (Council Open 3)
12.  Ray Robillard (TravisCon 4)
 
As players win major events in the region, they will be added to the bye list.  If you are considering making this trip, and you are from outside the general area, please let me know.  If you have won a major event in your region, you will be afforded a bye as well.

Teams:

As with the original Grudge Match, this event will be team oriented.  I am putting up a set of Sphere of Resistances, to be signed by the New York players, and given to the winning team (should someone manage to beat us on our home turf.)  

Teams of three will be voted upon by members of their respective regions.  Votes for team members will be allowed by members of each individual region (and thus the votes will be public).  The threads for team voting will be put up as we near the event.

I’m going to ask the other regions (New England and PA) to put up a set of cards, to be signed by your team, and given to the winning team as well.  

Player of the Year Race:

Results for Grudge Match II will count towards the N.Y.S.E. Player of the Year Race.  As this is the first event of 2011, this will be the first event at which 2011 points are calculated.  

Additionally, the winner of the 2010 N.Y.S.E. Player of the Year Race will receive his oh-so awesome trophy, along with free entry into this tournament.

The points structure is such:

1st – 12 points
2nd – 9 points
3rd/4th – 6 points
5th-8th – 3 points

Players receive points according to each match win or draw they record during the Swiss rounds of the event, with the aforementioned additional points going out to the top 8 competitors.

Where:

Brothers Grim Games & Collectibles
1244 Middle Country Road
Selden, N.Y.
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(631) 698-2805
brothersgrimgames@gmail.com

Store website:

http://brgrim.com/index.htm

N.Y.S.E. tournament site:

http://www.facebook.com/nick.detwiler?ref=name#/group.php?v=info&ref=mf&gid=226523866027

There will be a day two for this event.  I have to schedule this with Brothers Grim, but the prize support will, in all likelihood, be a cash payout with 90% of the entrance fees going towards support.  

The format for day two is up for you guys to decide.  If you’re looking for a Vintage day two, that’s cool, and if you’re looking for a Legacy day two, that’s cool too.  I’m looking for feedback on this, so please let me know.

Additionally, I am going to be in contact with local area hotels to see if I can set up a group rate for players from outside the area who are considering making the trip.  More information on this will go up in the coming week or two.

The biggest selling point, as all who have ever played in an N.Y.S.E. event know, is the after party.  N.Y.S.E. after parties are like Christmas, your 21st birthday and winning the lottery rolled into one.  But they’re better.  After parties in the past have featured such memorable moments as steak knife juggling contests, the 30 horsemen drink-off, JETS chants, and more.  They’re not to be missed…

So, I think that’s everything (though I’m sure I’m missing some details here and there).  I’ll update with more information as it comes in, but I hope to see everybody make the trip down to Long Island for the event!


Artist Appearance

I have spoken with Jeff Menges and he has agreed to make an appearance at the Grudge Match II.  There are a few things that should be outlined:

1.  Jeff will do card alterations at $5 per card, and playmat sketches at $20 per.  Jeff will bring samples to give you a rough idea of what your alteration could look like.  Alterations are typically done while you're playing, as it takes time to do alters.

2.  There will be prints, artist proofs and altered cards for sale.

3.  If you're looking to have cards signed please have no more than 10 per each wait through the line, as there are others who will be looking to have stuff signed as well.  
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 09:51:48 pm »

I mentioned in the N.Y.S.E. Lite thread for 11/14 that I was unsure as to what the community preferred when it came to prize support regarding newer, expensive, staples, or older ones. 

If the community would prefer Jace the Mind Sculptors to be substituted for Library of Alexandria's, please let me know.  The cost on the two is close enough that if many people would prefer, it is possible to switch this up now.  I do have to start getting my ducks in a row regarding prize support, so please, speak now or forever hold your peace.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 10:09:48 pm »

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!

Edit:  By which I mean, this is awesome and I will be coming to this, for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 10:49:27 pm »

I'll definitely be there, but I put my money on the rest of New England bitching out. 

Either none of the rich kid wannabe vintage players in Mass/RI have cars any more, or they can't afford to pay their chauffeurs on the weekends.

I can already see the QQ posts "omg it's a 4 hr drive blah blah blah."   Shut the fuck up, stop bitching about a lack of tournaments in the area, listen to your emo owl city songs on your Ipod touches on the way there with your weaksauce headphones, and try to win a few games of vintage.

No one's life is so important where they can't set aside a single Saturday to do stuff, and anyone who claims to have shit come up at the last second can go fuck themselves.

I think I'll drive myself so I can actually attend the after party this time.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 04:16:38 am »

@Prospero,
So is there any information on the afterparty and will those damn Russian once again win...?

This event looks awesome.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 07:20:12 am »

Grrrrr, I'm gonna be away that weekend. It's OK, GM3 will be a delight.

Team NY, Hold it Down Smile

PS:
How about, "Team of the Year" for 2011 ?
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 07:57:11 am »

Please, no Legacy events.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 09:39:56 am »

I'm gonna try to make this, surgery recovery pending.  If I do, expect me to bring 2-3 others.

(I have to have open heart surgery on December 2nd.  Some jackass decided it was a good idea to put an aneurysm in my aortic root.)
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 05:33:54 pm »

Grudge match you say? Well after leading the Pa team to a second place finish for the first one. Im sure pa will take the crown this time around to show who the true kings of vintage are!

@ Nick D. As always thank you for the events you hold. Watch out for the RUSSIANS they will get you right after you think you won!

@ The vintage world. Get you asses to this event! Nick and co. put a lot in to these events. Please show your support by showing up, playing, and having a fanfuckingtastic time!
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 06:11:30 pm »

I'm gonna try to make this, surgery recovery pending.  If I do, expect me to bring 2-3 others.

(I have to have open heart surgery on December 2nd.  Some jackass decided it was a good idea to put an aneurysm in my aortic root.)

Damn, best of luck with that man.  Hope all goes well.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 10:18:35 pm »

I'm gonna try to make this, surgery recovery pending.  If I do, expect me to bring 2-3 others.

(I have to have open heart surgery on December 2nd.  Some jackass decided it was a good idea to put an aneurysm in my aortic root.)

Very, very sorry to hear this.  In the off chance that there's anything that I can do to make the event more accessible for you, please let me know.

Grrrrr, I'm gonna be away that weekend. It's OK, GM3 will be a delight.

Team NY, Hold it Down Smile

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How about, "Team of the Year" for 2011 ?

As potentially the nicest man in Vintage, you are forgiven. 

Haven't spoken with DA or IronChef about this, but it's an idea to consider.

Please, no Legacy events.

Fair enough.  Confirmed day two with Grim today.  I'd like to run it as a cash Vintage event.  I'll wait for more feedback on this.

@Prospero,
So is there any information on the afterparty and will those damn Russian once again win...?

This event looks awesome.

The Russians are most certainly not winning this afterparty. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 08:10:15 am »

Awesomeness! You knew I was in anyway, but not sure I could actually play Legacy.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 08:03:31 am »

Count me in. This is gonna be awesome.
@Prospero: It'll be great to see an N.Y.S.E event in full swing. I can't wait!!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 02:46:58 pm »

OH SNAP

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 09:20:52 am »

Damn, best of luck with that man.  Hope all goes well.

Very, very sorry to hear this.  In the off chance that there's anything that I can do to make the event more accessible for you, please let me know.

Thanks, guys.  I'm really excited to get this out of the way.  The goal is to have the fastest recovery possible.  I really hope I can make / bring people to the event.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2010, 09:37:43 am »

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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 12:14:58 pm »

I'll be there fo sho.

If you're going to try to secure a group rate at a hotel somewhere, let me offer some advice, the closer to Club TGI Friday's the better!

Maybe we can also make an arrangement with Club TGI Friday's that the winner of the grudge match also wins THE TROPHY!

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 08:33:44 pm »

I'll be there fo sho.

If you're going to try to secure a group rate at a hotel somewhere, let me offer some advice, the closer to Club TGI Friday's the better!

Maybe we can also make an arrangement with Club TGI Friday's that the winner of the grudge match also wins THE TROPHY!

The hotel info is going to take a little time, and it's partially going to be determined by demand.  I'm going to reach out and see what's available, and how many reservations each hotel is looking for in order to grant a group rate.  Still, even if it doesn't seem as though there is enough demand for a group rate, I will post all the information necessary for local area hotels that are within quick driving distance of Brother's Grim (and, therefore, TGI Fridays...)
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 08:42:17 pm »

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2010, 12:06:52 pm »

Have off and don't have to worry about making a 8hr drive myself so I guess that means I am winning this lotus....
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2010, 05:23:13 pm »

Have off and don't have to worry about making a 8hr drive myself so I guess that means I am winning this lotus....

If Nick is unable to secure a group rate somewhere then I expect you to use your shrewd negotiating skills to get us a rate as good as you did for Toronto...

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2010, 05:42:26 pm »

Have off and don't have to worry about making a 8hr drive myself so I guess that means I am winning this lotus....

I predict either you or I takes this down... hopefully a repeat of the one bluebell moons ago but with me winning this time! Smile
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2010, 08:56:27 pm »

Have off and don't have to worry about making a 8hr drive myself so I guess that means I am winning this lotus....

If Nick is unable to secure a group rate somewhere then I expect you to use your shrewd negotiating skills to get us a rate as good as you did for Toronto...

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Seems like I have a new negotiator...

Have off and don't have to worry about making a 8hr drive myself so I guess that means I am winning this lotus....
I predict either you or I takes this down... hopefully a repeat of the one bluebell moons ago but with me winning this time! Smile

This Lotus is staying in New York.  If you guys want, you can come, pay your entry fee, and look at it for a little while.  I'm sure whichever New Yorker wins it wouldn't mind that too much.  If you really want, you might even be able to get a picture with them!
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2010, 11:12:47 pm »

If you really want, you might even be able to get a picture with them!

I have an expensive camera, no photographic skills, am from New York and will take a picture of anything.
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 04:03:58 pm »

Alright! A Black Lotus - now we're talkin!  Nothing gets a man like me to travel than a purple flower stamped on a piece of cardboard.   The last time I played for a Lotus in January I won it.

Good events in the winter are usually few and far between.  Hopefully the weather won't be an issue. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 01:02:32 am »

If you really want, you might even be able to get a picture with them!

I have an expensive camera, no photographic skills, am from New York and will take a picture of anything.

You should bring your camera and take pictures of the event!  I've had pictures of events in the past, and I haven't done that in a while.  I need to get back to that...

Alright! A Black Lotus - now we're talkin!  Nothing gets a man like me to travel than a purple flower stamped on a piece of cardboard.   The last time I played for a Lotus in January I won it.

Good events in the winter are usually few and far between.  Hopefully the weather won't be an issue. 

That's what I want to hear.  It would be good to see you play Vintage in New York again Paul.
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2010, 11:57:36 am »

I know myself and at least 3 others from N.E.P.A. will be there, but here is hoping the entire N.E.P.A. comes to represent which would put the total around 11 people coming.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2010, 12:34:10 pm »

You should bring your camera and take pictures of the event!  I've had pictures of events in the past, and I haven't done that in a while.  I need to get back to that...

Worse comes to worse, I can always bring a camera for you.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2010, 12:45:35 pm »

If you really want, you might even be able to get a picture with them!

This hurts... But as long as I get a pep talk and don't lose to double Force on my Necro out of Ichorid again I will take any picture you like!
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2010, 06:05:54 pm »

If you really want, you might even be able to get a picture with them!

This hurts... But as long as I get a pep talk and don't lose to double Force on my Necro out of Ichorid again I will take any picture you like!

Tiger, you're welcome to a pep talk whenever you want.  Just don't ask for another nickname, I can't top the one I already gave you.


You should bring your camera and take pictures of the event!  I've had pictures of events in the past, and I haven't done that in a while.  I need to get back to that...

Worse comes to worse, I can always bring a camera for you.

Thanks Mike, I appreciate it.  We'll see, I hope to have a camera by then, but I may take you up on this.
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