Omen Machine- MUD's Prison Card?

[Troy_Costisick]

Check this card out:

Omen Machine 
Artifact

Players cannot draw cards.
At the beginning of each player's draw step that player exiles the top card of his/her library.  If it's a land, they put it into play.  Otherwise he/she casts it without paying its casting cost if able.

This pretty much shuts everything down, right?  No Dredge.  No Gush.  No draw 7s.

Seems pretty nasty to me.

Peace,

-Troy

[TopSecret]

So, does this actually stop Dredge, or can they still choose the dredge replacement effect over this thing or whatever. If this does stop dredging, that's not bad, but I don't know if that makes it viable at all. (Well, except for awesome Emrakul Shenanigans. XD) I mean, it doesn't really stop people from casting things. If anything it helps with that. Just hits draw card stuff.

[Joblin Velder]

Dredging replaces a draw. No drawing, no dredging.

[Troy_Costisick]

So, does this actually stop Dredge, or can they still choose the dredge replacement effect over this thing or whatever. If this does stop dredging, that's not bad, but I don't know if that makes it viable at all. (Well, except for awesome Emrakul Shenanigans. XD) I mean, it doesn't really stop people from casting things. If anything it helps with that. Just hits draw card stuff.

Joblin's right.  If you can't draw, you can't Dredge.  This card punishes any deck that doesn't play lots of permanents or decks that rely on Brainstorm and its dozen knock-off cantrips to find combo pieces.  It forces all players to play like shop players.

[Wagner]

I like that you HAVE to cast it.

but all in all, insn't this just a more expensive Uba Mask? Yes, Uba, doesn't stop drawing cards in chains, but for 2 less, it pretty much has the same use.

Uba mask is a lot better against Dredge also, no free casting.

[A_Outcast]

I like that you HAVE to cast it.

but all in all, insn't this just a more expensive Uba Mask? Yes, Uba, doesn't stop drawing cards in chains, but for 2 less, it pretty much has the same use.

Uba mask is a lot better against Dredge also, no free casting.

419.9a If two or more replacement or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply.

uba mask is terible against dredge.  the dredge player chooses what to replace their draw with, a dredge or an exile to uba mask.  so they dont really care at al about uba mask.  wereas this completely stops dredge because its negates a draw and like  troy and joblin said, no draw=no dredge.  on a side note, if they have already dredged up some, they might get a pretty big gravetroll which could be scary.

[Darkenslight]

I like that you HAVE to cast it.

but all in all, insn't this just a more expensive Uba Mask? Yes, Uba, doesn't stop drawing cards in chains, but for 2 less, it pretty much has the same use.

Uba mask is a lot better against Dredge also, no free casting.

This is flat-out BETTER than Mask, because it negates any card draw that doesn't put it directly into your hand.  That leaves....not that many options for most Blue decks.  And it goes fantastically well with Black cards like Bob.

[Lemnear]

It costs 2 more than mask, how could you compare both so easily? It's indeed great with Bob ... I love to smack 6 damage into my own face XD

[Troy_Costisick]

This card stops counter magic, stops card draw, stops Dredge, and lets a shop player put a permanent into play for free every turn.  The only real downsides are its cost of 6 and if your opponent flips Emrakul.  Games like that happen.  But this thing just does everything a shop player could want.  Your spheres still make spells cost extra mana to play, smokestack can be ramped up to two and wipe your opponent's board.  I just love this thing.

[dawnstrider]

This card seems good if you can get it out. Some synergy with divining top as you basically get to choose which of the three cards you want to play that turn.

[madmanmike25]

Essentially it breaks down kinda like this:

Mirror match-  Not really good.  They get to put perms into play by just paying extra sphere costs.
Dredge- True, they get a bunch of dinky creatures AND it would be funny as balls to finally see Bridge as an enchantment... Do you guys really want a SIX mana answer to dredge?
Oath- Angels and Sphinxes and Terrastodons oh my!  Not to mention Oath itself or Jace.

Seriously, with Sphere effects I think Uba is all-around better with the exception of the Dredge matchup.

Also consider that with Sphere effects, what are the odds of this thing even costing 6 mana?

If it only said "Players cannot draw cards", then that would be sick for the 6-9 mana that it will realistically cost.  It's another one of those not-quite-there-but-close cards.  I'm sure it will fool some people though.

[Mr. Type 4]

If it only said "Players cannot draw cards", then that would be sick for the 6-9 mana that it will realistically cost.

Posessed Portal almost does exactly that but has this discard or sac a permanent thing attached to it which is probably a plus for a MUD deck that could run stuff like Crucible of Worlds (although the way its worded I dont think it stops Dredge).  This card is a potential upgrade because it costs so much less mana. 

[madmanmike25]

Yeah Portal is a replacement effect so it wouldn't stop dredge.  If Possessed Portal cost 6 mana it would see some play I'd imagine.  But, I still think at 4 mana Uba is better than this new card vs. the non-Dredge format.

[Delha]

As a side note, this doesn't stop things like tutors or "put-into-hand" effects (eg Sleight of Hand). Even topdeck tutors work, since Vamp for BSC ends up being superior to Vamp for Tinker.

I still don't think this will see play, but only because the cost is so steep. That said, I forsee fun times at the kitchen table with this one. I can see this going either way in Standard. I won't be surprised to if some neat tutoring/toolbox stuff develops, and equally unsuprised if it bombs out and joins the trash-rare bin.

[patat]

As a side note, this doesn't stop things like tutors or "put-into-hand" effects (eg Sleight of Hand). Even topdeck tutors work, since Vamp for BSC ends up being superior to Vamp for Tinker.

I still don't think this will see play, but only because the cost is so steep. That said, I forsee fun times at the kitchen table with this one. I can see this going either way in Standard. I won't be surprised to if some neat tutoring/toolbox stuff develops, and equally unsuprised if it bombs out and joins the trash-rare bin.

Whoa. Vamp for Emrakul seems pretty busted. Worldly Tutor even works, for that matter.

Edit:

On a side note, though I agree with you Delha that the cost makes it tough to play, this card seems interesting in a Parfait build.  The scroll rack/land tax engine still works under this beast, with the added bonus that you can now rack a fattie on top of your library and have it CIP.  With parfait's ability to control a game (though poor compared to today's vintage standards), and using enlightened tutor as another way to search for big artifacts, the machine seems to have some synergy.  6 Mana is a lot, but hardly unreachable in parfait.