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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2011, 03:51:21 am »

Thanks for posting. I wonder whats the exact SB-plan of the winnerdeck. Seems interesting. I'd like to know what he sided in and out against the certain decks. Any ideas or experience?

Sure. Not having now time enough to tell deeply but the cards are used against...

1 Trinisphere - ANT, Gush Decks...
1 Tormod's Crypt - Dredge
1 Hurkyl's Recall - Workshop Variants
2 Sower of Temptation - Fish, Random Aggro, Maybe Vs. Confidant, Jace Control...
3 Steel Sabotage - Workshop Variants, Tezz Decks...
3 Relic of Progenitus - Dredge
2 Dismember - Fish, Workshop Variants, Confidants...
2 Mental Misstep - Omar told he wanted to use this mainly to supply the deck of defense against those decks packing sideboard REB's, Duress...
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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2011, 04:44:45 am »

a) Looking at the 11th place decklist (from eternal central), he has a SB robot.  What caught my eye was that he has tinker + bsc main, but no vault + key.  I wonder when is it right to have an additional robot for tinker w.out vault key VS. the strategy of boarding out the tinker and bot for 2 sb slots.  Essentially, assessing the value of the sb slot robot and tinker vs. 2 potential board cards.

Hi all !
I'm the french player which finished 11th at the BOM (with the ubg control).

To explain my choices, I haven't access to : Mox Ruby & Pearl, Time Vault, Mana Drain, etc.
I need win conditions, so I played : Tarmogoyf & Tinker.
BSC was my tinker target because I was afraid to play vs random deck (elf, gob, etc.) and BSC give me a good chance to win this deck.
But, I was expecting lots of hate vs BSC (Sword to plowshare, Steel Sabotage, etc.) So, I decided to side Inkwell Leviathan and I think it was a good idea.

I played versus : 1 MUD, 1 Ichorid, 1 Painter,1 Elephant Oath, 2 Gush Tendrils, 2 Jace control, 1 Madness and I side Inkwell every time except vs MUD & Ichorid.

Have a good day !
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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2011, 05:40:38 am »

Thanks for posting. I wonder whats the exact SB-plan of the winnerdeck. Seems interesting. I'd like to know what he sided in and out against the certain decks. Any ideas or experience?

Sure. Not having now time enough to tell deeply but the cards are used against...

1 Trinisphere - ANT, Gush Decks...
1 Tormod's Crypt - Dredge
1 Hurkyl's Recall - Workshop Variants
2 Sower of Temptation - Fish, Random Aggro, Maybe Vs. Confidant, Jace Control...
3 Steel Sabotage - Workshop Variants, Tezz Decks...
3 Relic of Progenitus - Dredge
2 Dismember - Fish, Workshop Variants, Confidants...
2 Mental Misstep - Omar told he wanted to use this mainly to supply the deck of defense against those decks packing sideboard REB's, Duress...

Thanks for your reply! Especially I'd love to know what he sided out against these decks. If you know, it would be great if you can post it. I'm currently testing a Turbotezz list and I'm not too sure about what to side out.

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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2011, 06:28:16 am »

I know what I sided out at BoM (6-3 with a Thoughtcast version of the same deck) and this weekend (4-2) with the same decklist, but not his choices. I'll phone him and tell him to answer.
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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2011, 08:58:34 am »

I know what I sided out at BoM (6-3 with a Thoughtcast version of the same deck) and this weekend (4-2) with the same decklist, but not his choices. I'll phone him and tell him to answer.

Thank you CHaPuZaS! I'm looking forward to it. =)

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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2011, 07:42:51 pm »

This is the answer by Omar:

vs mud -8 black cards +2 dismember 2 sower 3 steel 1 hurkill
vs ichorich -4 tgz -2 hurkill and depending if it plays CotV...
if not playing Chalice 4 anti dredge 1 trini y 2 mental y also take out steel
vs control -2 hurkill +2 mental si lleva confidant -1 steel -1 imperial +2 sower tb
vs gush combo/ combo  -3 bounce +2 mental +1 trini
vs fish -4 tgz 2 hurkill 1 tezeret 1 grim 1 key  +2 sower 2 sidmeber 3 steel 2 mindstep
vs gat -3 bounce -1 land +2 sower +2 mental
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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2011, 01:05:27 am »

This is the answer by Omar:

vs mud -8 black cards +2 dismember 2 sower 3 steel 1 hurkill
vs ichorich -4 tgz -2 hurkill and depending if it plays CotV...
if not playing Chalice 4 anti dredge 1 trini y 2 mental y also take out steel
vs control -2 hurkill +2 mental si lleva confidant -1 steel -1 imperial +2 sower tb
vs gush combo/ combo  -3 bounce +2 mental +1 trini
vs fish -4 tgz 2 hurkill 1 tezeret 1 grim 1 key  +2 sower 2 sidmeber 3 steel 2 mindstep
vs gat -3 bounce -1 land +2 sower +2 mental


Very interesting thanks! wow...all tutors out against MUD. And no bounce against Control / Gush seems very risky because of pithing needle. Sure you can still win with tezz's ultimate or tinker->bot, but it still seems risky. My playpartner is testing turbotezz builds very excessively. The downside of the Deck seems to be the drawengine. Sure its a combodeck and not a controldeck. Top is not bad but cant compare to the draw engine of competitive vintage control decks. But of course thats obviously. If you can't win within a few turns, the deck gets weaker every turn. But thats the naturalness of combodecks.
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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2011, 01:02:00 am »

becomes  Monoblue against MUD...great sideboarding!
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2011, 05:07:26 am »

becomes  Monoblue against MUD...great sideboarding!

That was our main idea, avoid being color weak against MUD. It worked pretty well.
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