Liberator Mud (top 2 @BOM)

[nataz]

oh man, can we take a second to talk about the top 2 MUD deck from BOM.

1) its Metalworker Mud
2) 2 Karn Liberated
3) 3 staff of Nin!

the list:

1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Mishra's Workshop
2 City of Traitors
4 Metalworker
3 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Karn Liberated
2 Karn, Silver Golem
1 Trinisphere
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sphere of Resistance
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
3 Staff of Nin
4 Lodestone Golem
4 Thorn of Amethyst

SB: 2 Jester's Cap
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 3 Batterskull
SB: 4 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 3 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 Crucible of Worlds


I've been playing around with it a little. I haven't really gotten value out of staff yet. The one time I was able to resolve Karn, it lead to a gg (I was already way ahead).

I struggle with the inclusion of metal worker in general. If you cast him early, you leave yourself open to a breakout. If you cast him late, there isn't much value (assuming you've already dumped your hand). In previous Metalworker Mud lists, I've tried to cram in sword of fire/ice and forgemaster, but that's def a different deck.

Thoughts?
 

[LotusHead]

My attempts at Staff of Nin led me to believe that 2 (or just 1) is the right number, and if you can copy it with Metamorph later, then value!

[Bibendum]

I think metalworker is needed due to Big Daddy Karns lack of love for workshops. The list is good, hell of a lot of fun to play but I think null rod exists here more then over there. I'd love to fool around with  the list  more, having such a blast playing it.

[PETER FLUGZEUG]

There is something wrong with this list. I definitely saw the MUD player casting multiple tangle wires.

[bax]

replace the 4 thorns of amethyst with 4 tangle wire

[Prospero]

replace the 4 thorns of amethyst with 4 tangle wire

That makes a lot of sense.  Staff of Nin is terrible with eight Spheres in your main.

[nataz]

That does make a lot of sense, and would help with the whole doing nothing on the turn you cast metal worker. An early game tangle is often better then a second sphere effect at protecting your spells.

The list on the bom website is missing four cards, I just wrongly assumed they were thorn.

I will say that by the time I had enough mana to cast nim at 6, and wanted to cast it as opposed to something else, I normally could power through spheres.