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« on: July 26, 2013, 01:26:14 pm » |
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Hello, as the title suggests, I am fairly new to Commander. I have a list together that I'd like all of you Commander players to look at. I'd like to know people's thoughts on it. I have hardly any of the cards as to why I'd like some input before even starting to get stuff. Here is the list:
Mono Green EDH
Mana Reflection Earthcraft Ant Queen Doubling Season Parallel Lives Squirrel Nest Saproling Cluster Fecundity Ashnod's Altar Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Clock of Omens Myr Turbine Genesis Chamber Words of Wilding Nim Deathmantle Rings of Brighthearth Everflowing Chalice Voltaic Key Lux Cannon Planar Portal Su-Chi Blasting Station Summoning Station Grinding Station Altar of Dementia Phyrexian Altar Sensei's Divining Top Sol Ring Mana Vault Thran Dynamo Basalt Monolith Grim Monolith Defense of the Heart Essence Warden Worldly Tutor Melira, Sylvok Outcast Woodfall Primus Cloudstone Curio Concordant Crossroads Presence of Gond Devoted Druid Coat of Arms Mitotic Slime Deadwood Treefolk Omnath, Locus of Mana Extraplanar Lens Gauntlet of Power Caged Sun Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (Commander) Vernal Bloom Seedborn Muse Eternal Witness Tooth and Nail Green Sun's Zenith Primal Command Praetor's Counsel Oracle of Mul Daya Azusa, Lost but Seeking Mind's Eye 38 Forest Dryad Arbor Misty Rainforest Verdant Catacombs Gaea's Cradle
As you can see I enjoy combo, and this has tons of that. The combo that drew me to want to play green was Earthcraft Squirrel Nest. After some research I have put many combos together and formed this.
Thank you for your time and I hope you enjoy looking at my list.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 05:03:21 pm » |
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It won't successfully compete with the "real" combo decks. That said, ask your playgroup, not us. You want a balanced play environment.
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msg67183
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 05:26:00 pm » |
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When I used to briefly play I was put up against a 21/21 Hydra Omnivore Mimeoplasm, infinite squirrels, and a blue deck that would deck everyone... I'd say it's competitive haha
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 11:17:43 am » |
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I changed the Genesis Chamber to a Kuldotha Forgemaster to have a tutor for my Artifacts, since a majority of them are needed for combos.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 10:16:34 pm » |
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When I used to briefly play I was put up against a 21/21 Hydra Omnivore Mimeoplasm, infinite squirrels, and a blue deck that would deck everyone... I'd say it's competitive haha Yeah, that's not competitive EDH.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 12:26:25 am » |
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How is that not competitive EDH? What would you consider competitive?
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 07:26:04 am » |
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How is that not competitive EDH? What would you consider competitive? Combo Sharuum, Azami, Zur, 5C Hermit Druid (any general). Some people say Animar too. The first 4 are all decks that can easily put the game away on turn 3 or 4. Animar is more of a gradual thing.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 06:51:47 am » |
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Mono Blue EDH
Commander: Arcanis, the Omnipotent
Chrome Mox Mox Diamond Lotus Petal Mox Opal Mana Vault Sol Ring Grim Monolith Mind Stone Basalt Monolith Coalition Relic Darksteel Ingot Manalith Thran Dynamo Gilded Lotus Dreamstone Headron Everflowing Chalice Deadeye Navigator Palinchron Great Whale Time Reversal Time Spiral Snap Frantic Search Mind Over Matter Temple Bell Blue Sun's Zenith Consecrated Sphinx Caged Sun Gauntlet of Power Extraplanar Lens High Tide Sensei's Divining Top Phyrexian Metamorph Sculpting Steel Copy Artifact Helm of Awakening Sapphire Medallion Howling Mine Font of Mythos Anvil of Bogardan Time Warp Walk the Aeons Time Stretch Beacon of Tomorrows Temporal Mastery Temporal Manipulation Archeomancer Lightning Greaves Swiftfoot Boots Doubling Cube Mneomonic Wall Ghostly Flicker Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Knowledge Pool Conjurer's Closet Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir Memnarch Treasure Mage Future Sight 40 Island
Is this more competitive?
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 07:38:06 am » |
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When people play that strategy, the general is usually Kami of the Crescent Moon. But, no, that's not competitive.
Just goldfish a tourney-winning Sharuum or Hermit Druid list a few times. You'll see the difference.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 09:20:09 am » |
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When people play that strategy, the general is usually Kami of the Crescent Moon. But, no, that's not competitive.
I used to play a version of Kami that would crush everything in competitive play. With the new legend rule some of the more controlling generals could be an issue as gaddock teag greaves is nearly unremovable without wiping your own board. You have to gear the deck for either multiplayer, cards like propaganda, rhystic study, and mystic remora, or single player, counter magic. Keeping your curve as low as possible is critical to this decks success. You should be playing all the free counterspells you can, all the efficient artifact accelerators/mana doublers (NOT doubling cube), a lot time walks you can (but not the 8 mana ones), and draw X spells mostly notably stroke of genius and blue sun. These are the bread and butter of the deck. You are missing an infinite mana combo of rings of brighthearh + basalt monolith. Tezzeret the seeker is great if you add this as he can fetch either piece as well as a number of other cards.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 01:32:09 pm » |
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Then I guess I don't play competitively but more casual competitive.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 03:55:49 pm » |
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Then I guess I don't play competitively but more casual competitive. That's a moving target depending on your playgroup. Anyways, like I said, your goal is a power level on par with the rest of your playgroup. It's not fun if the same person always wins handily.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2013, 12:00:21 pm » |
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I'm not a competitive EDH player, but since we're on the topic of mono-green, I figured that I'd throw in a fun play that I like to set up in my Omnath, Locus of Mana EDH deck. It's not really a "combo," but if you are able to generate a lot of mana, having Kamahl, Fist of Krosa in play alongside a Masticore can devastate an opponent with ease. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2013, 05:17:26 pm » |
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I decided if I ever do get into Commander that I would use cards I already own instead of buying a whole 100 cards. That way I'm not spending tons of cash on something I might play once in a while. Here is the list:
Elf EDH
Commander: Ezuri, Renegade Leader / Eladmari, Lord of Leaves
Pumps: Gaea's Anthem Coat of Arms Door of Destinies Elvish Champion Elvish Archdruid Imperious Perfect Immaculate Magistrate Joraga Warcaller Adaptive Automaton Brass Herald Meng Huo, Barbarian King Kaysa Elvish Vanguard Eldrazi Monument Gauntlet of Power Caged Sun Akroma's Memorial
Mana Dorks / Mana Accel: Llanowar Elves Elvish Mystic Fyndhorn Elves Arbor Elf Boreal Druid Devoted Druid Priest of Titania Joraga Treespeaker Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary Oracle of Mul Daya Heritage Druid Birchlore Rangers Wirewood Channeler Heart Warden Quirion Ranger Elvish Guidance
Tutors / Draw: Elvish Harbinger Wirewood Herald Fauna Shaman Survival of the Fittest Chord of Calling Green Sun's Zenith Enshrined Memories Genesis Wave Summoner's Pact Worldly Tutor Primal Command Sensei's Divining Top Elvish Visionary Lead the Stampede Collective Unconscious Sylvan Messenger Masked Admirers Regal Force Primordial Sage Soul of the Harvest
Token Makers: Lys Alana Huntmaster Wirewood Hivemaster Elvish Promanade Presence of Gond
Combo: Sword of the Paruns Umbral Mantle Cloudstone Curio Concordant Crossroads
Other Dudes: Essence Warden Wirewood Symbiote Eternal Witness
Lands: Gaea's Cradle Oran Rief the Vastwood Wirewood Lodge Tranquil Thicket Misty Rainforest Verdant Catacombs 28 Forest
I this list could be really strong
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2013, 06:58:18 pm » |
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I decided if I ever do get into Commander that I would use cards I already own instead of buying a whole 100 cards. That way I'm not spending tons of cash on something I might play once in a while. We don't know which cards you own.
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2013, 07:08:57 pm » |
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That was just stating since I play Elves already that an Elf Commander deck only makes sense.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2013, 03:41:53 pm » |
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Conversely not needing to move cards between decks is nice, too. I've thrown up an example of a cut-throat competitive Maelstrom Wanderer build as a post here: http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=45575.0
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