English legends booster draft entry fee?

[Johnmac4u]

Hi all,

New me ever here but long time player (since 93).

Here's my question:

I've been sitting on an English booster box of legends that's still sealed and in perfect shape. Was considering hosting a 12 person draft, with maybe a mox prize or something. What kind of entry fee could reasonably be expected and still get people to attend?

Is 750 way too much to expect 12 people each to pay to get 3 English boosters and a chance at an unlim mox for first and unlim trop island for second? The boxes can fetch an easy 5k, so just wondering if it's even worth considering running a draft or not. The only other option I could think of was make it 600 per person and have the first place prize be a pick of any card pulled and same for second place.

[Commandant]

Hi all,

New me ever here but long time player (since 93).

Here's my question:

I've been sitting on an English booster box of legends that's still sealed and in perfect shape. Was considering hosting a 12 person draft, with maybe a mox prize or something. What kind of entry fee could reasonably be expected and still get people to attend?

Is 750 way too much to expect 12 people each to pay to get 3 English boosters and a chance at an unlim mox for first and unlim trop island for second? The boxes can fetch an easy 5k, so just wondering if it's even worth considering running a draft or not. The only other option I could think of was make it 600 per person and have the first place prize be a pick of any card pulled and same for second place.

1. Sell the box sealed.

2. Keep the box and sell the box sealed in 2020.

Anything that deviates from 1. and 2. is a poor idea.

Also, Legends is a really piss poor limited set.

[Greg]

1. Sell the box sealed.

2. Keep the box and sell the box sealed in 2020.

Anything that deviates from 1. and 2. is a poor idea.

I think that I have to agree with Commandant on this one.

The thought of doing a Legends draft has been mentioned before on this forum with minimal interest. Outside of the nostalgia trip and the rare opportunity to do something out of the ordinary, it doesn't seem like a great call.

I have a friend that's putting together a 9.5 BGS set of English Legends. He has opened two boxes of sealed English Legends solely to find cards that are in immaculate and pack-fresh condition. In that video, you can see how a few of the packs turn out to be fantastic, but most of them turn out to be simply miserable. I think that the only worthwhile reason to open a sealed box from 1994 or before would be if the owner was also trying to put together a highly graded set. Otherwise, a lot of money would likely be lost.

(It's fun to note that the uncommons were oddly divided between two different box runs. There is one very noteworthy difference between the two variants: The boxes that have packs with a Karakas in them won't have any packs containing Mana Drains, and vice versa. My friend has opened two boxes and they were both of the Karakas variant.)

As for the actual drafting of the set... even with the "experience" and enjoyment factor taken into consideration, it's still probably not worth it. Somebody in my previously linked thread noted that red only has one creature that can attack in the common slot. I mean, if it's something you really want to do with a few friends, I'm sure you'd have a blast. I'd encourage you to film it.

I hope that you'll end up making the right call with your box. It's a great piece of history.

[boggyb]

What he said. I think there's . . . one? Red creature in the set? That can attack and block? Like, that 5-mana 4/4 dude Durkwood Boars is one of the best limited cards. It was made well before they designed sets with draft in mind and therefore isn't really fun to draft, except for comedy value, which is not to be denied but isn't worth the $500-$750 buy-in cost. You'd rather just buy a Mox for that.

If you don't believe me, pick triple Legends at http://drafts.in/ and try to make some decks with it. They are always hysterically bad.

[serracollector]

I agree with zeus.

[Zenvir]

(It's fun to note that the uncommons were oddly divided between two different box runs. There is one very noteworthy difference between the two variants: The boxes that have packs with a Karakas in them won't have any packs containing Mana Drains, and vice versa. My friend has opened two boxes and they were both of the Karakas variant.)

I'm not sure this is true with Italian Legends.  I recall cracking a box and getting a Karakas, Mana Drain and Tabernacle.  I had these cards for many years until I first sold off my collection back in 2002.

Best,
Rick

[bactgudz]

Sell the box of legends; buy 1x of each rare, 1x of each U1, 2x of each U2, 3x of each C1, and 6x of each C2 to make a draft sim cube and draft it as many times as you want, you can even simulate the A-B split with this

[MaximumCDawg]

What he said. I think there's . . . one? Red creature in the set? That can attack and block? Like, that 5-mana 4/4 dude Durkwood Boars is one of the best limited cards. It was made well before they designed sets with draft in mind and therefore isn't really fun to draft, except for comedy value, which is not to be denied but isn't worth the $500-$750 buy-in cost. You'd rather just buy a Mox for that.

If you don't believe me, pick triple Legends at http://drafts.in/ and try to make some decks with it. They are always hysterically bad.

I took your dare and I ended up with a pretty awesome deck, IMHO:

Life Chisel
Evil Eye of Orms By Gore
Headless Horseman x2
Horror of Horrors
Spirit Shackle x3
Vampire Bats
Durkwood Boars x5
Chain Lightning
Falling Star x2
Kobold Taskmaster
Pyrotechnics
Raging Bull
Axlerod Gunnelson x2
Boris Devilboon
Jerald of the Closed Fist
The Lady of the Mountain

If I live to hit 5 mana I'm golden

[boggyb]

Okay, now try drafting with 7 other people who know what cards and colors are good in the set. yeeeechh

[AmbivalentDuck]

Sell the box of legends; buy 1x of each rare, 1x of each U1, 2x of each U2, 3x of each C1, and 6x of each C2 to make a draft sim cube and draft it as many times as you want, you can even simulate the A-B split with this

QFT. Not sure why you'd crack packs when you can get the same effect easily. You have a genuine rarity on your hands and you're basically proposing to "waste" it.

[The M.E.T.H.O.D]

Yea legends is literally one of the worst limited formats because it wasn't designed as one. Beta isnt that impressive either but the chance at opened BB duals and power makes up for it.

And if you open the box the packs are worth a lot less because the booster packs were designed badly then as well.

Its pretty impressive you've held the box for this long so I would just let it ride for even longer.

[portland]

Having played both sealed with revised and legends and drafted legends many years ago, I can confirm, this won't be nearly as much fun as you're expecting. Keep it or sell it, but don't draft it.

Aside - WotC used to do late night "old product" events during UK Gencon in the days it was still held in Loughborough, and were usually filled with people using their Legends membership for their daily free draft. When you're drafting Italian Legends and you're the only person at the table who knows the pictures and what the cards do (yeah, you enjoy that first pick mana matrix kid) let alone how important actual good creatures and removal are, you're looking pretty good. It's still not fun even then though.