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Leoj
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« on: January 11, 2016, 04:59:21 pm »

I've recently picked up a TPS list (http://magic.wizards.com/en/MTGO/articles/archive/vintage-super-league-season-4-decklists#Froehlich) and know how the deck generally plays, but I feel very lost when it comes to sideboarding. I'm just not sure what can come out in each matchup to accommodate sideboard cards without ruining the rest of the deck.

Would anyone be willing to walk me through how you sideboard against the bigger decks (like Shops, Mentor, etc.)?
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 05:35:41 pm »

Against Shops you want to take out cards like Duress, Defense Grid, and Gitaxian Probe for artifact/enchantment removal and extra mana sources.

Against Mentor you want to put in your extra Grids/Duress effects and side out a land or two and dead cards such as Hurkyl's.  If you need to side out more cards, I'd look heavily at Necropotence, Dark Petition, Draw7s, and the one mana cantrips, potentially even a a Ritual or two (Dark or Cabal)

It doesn't matter much what you side out. Just be sure to leave in Tendrils, Will, and Lotus
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2016, 01:03:55 am »

Against Shops you want to take out cards like Duress, Defense Grid, and Gitaxian Probe for artifact/enchantment removal and extra mana sources.

Against Mentor you want to put in your extra Grids/Duress effects and side out a land or two and dead cards such as Hurkyl's.  If you need to side out more cards, I'd look heavily at Necropotence, Dark Petition, Draw7s, and the one mana cantrips, potentially even a a Ritual or two (Dark or Cabal)

It doesn't matter much what you side out. Just be sure to leave in Tendrils, Will, and Lotus

So, I got back into Vintage this summer. Built omnioath and the answer.  Post B/r I built grixis pyromancer but tore that apart yesterday.  Was debating tez, oath, or storm.  Decided to build storm. Gold fishing obviously feels amazing b/c you're not being disrupted (and Yawgmoths will is the most fun card in all of magic to cast) but I was also curious about boarding.  that's about what I was thinking but wasn't thinking about sideboarding out land.  I built Efro's list from the vintage challenge:
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11033&d=262815&f=VI

13 LANDS
1 Badlands
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Library of Alexandria
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Underground Sea

Disruption:
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Duress
2 Hurkyl's Recall

Rituals
2 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual

Get Cards
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Dark Petition
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Gitaxian Probe
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk
1 Vampiric Tutor

Draw 7s:
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Timetwister

Mana facts:
1 Black Lotus
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring

Engine:
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Mind's Desire
1 Tendrils of Agony

SIDEBOARD
4 Ancient Tomb
3 Defense Grid
1 Empty the Warrens
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Mindbreak Trap
3 Ravenous Trap

I don't have any match experience so I guess I'd type up what I'd guess and looking for perspective:

Against and deck with lots of counters, mental mistep...drain...fow.  So mentor, oath.

+3 Defense Grid
-2 Huryl's recall
-1 Swamp

Shops:
+4 Ancient Tomb
+2 Hurkyl's recall
-4 Duress
-2 Cabal Therapy

Tez:
+2 Huryl's recall
-2 Cabal Therapy

Storm Mirror:
+2 Mindbreak Trap
+2 Ravenous Trap
+1 Empty the warrens
-2 hurkyl's recall
-1 Wheel of fortune
-1 timetwister
-1 Swamp

Dredge:
+3 Ravenous trap
+1 Empty the warrens
+2 Mindbreak trap
+3 Ancient Tomb
-2 Hurkyls recall
-4 duress
-3 cabal therapy

I'm sure I'm way off I just would like to see more discussion.

the deck is very different than when SM wrote about it here
http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=40609.0

Would like to see an updated primer that at least has to speak to Mental Misstep if not Dark Petition
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 12:04:36 am »

I am not sure I would board out Necropotence vs Blue. Playing Rituals->Dark Petition->Necro is very strong early when Yawg will is not good. Vs mentor deifnitely play all the defense grids you have access to (4 in efros list). Defense grid is crushing vs mentor as they can usually only counter it with FOW. Vs shops I would bring in empty the warrens, warrens for 12+ goblins is often enough to win. And Vs shops you may not have time to set up for a tendrills kill.

Vs shops you take out all the disruption and put in mana and hurkyl's.

If you think an opponent will have a card that gives htem hex-proof (true-believer, leyline of santictity etc) make sure to bring in Empty the Warrens and to have a chain of vapor in your 60.
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