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« on: January 27, 2004, 07:57:17 am » |
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I was wondering what you all thought about this. I think DCI should keep these seperate. T1 and 1.5 are as different as 1.5 and 1.X are (at least, in my mind). It bothers me that they are included in the same catagory in the DCI rankings. Am I alone? Vote.
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jpmeyer
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2004, 10:02:35 am » |
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Yeah, but Extended and Standard and every Block Constructed ever are even more different and they're grouped together.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2004, 10:23:30 am » |
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JP has a point. I voted no. And let's not forget that the issue is largely academic, since no one cares about their Vintage rating or considers it a serious barometer of skill.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2004, 12:30:28 pm » |
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Maybe I should reiterite my stance then...
I think every format should have it's own catagory.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2004, 08:42:09 am » |
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Then how would people get qualitied for (mixed) events based on rating?
Also, that's bound to be WAY too much of a hassle to pull off...
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2004, 09:10:58 am » |
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Especially since it would mean that you got a brand new rating every time Standard or Extended rotated, and a new one each Block...it would be impossible to manage event qualifications by rating with such a system.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2004, 12:02:12 pm » |
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Especially since it would mean that you got a brand new rating every time Standard or Extended rotated, and a new one each Block...it would be impossible to manage event qualifications by rating with such a system. Why is that? Qualify for type 2 constructed with your type 2 constructed rating, qualify for 1.x with your 1.x ranking... it wouldn't need to change or reset as the cards changed. It would be the same format. To clarify... let's say the ranking started now, and you earned a ranking of 1780 in a category. When you needed to qualify for a event based on a rating (if your format even has byes or something of the sort), they would look at this number. As the cards rotated in and out, the format would stay the same. i.e. when t2 cards rotated, you would still be playing the format called t2. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 12:37:23 pm » |
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It's because qualifiers do not use the same format for an event as the event does. You play the prior format to qualify. This is because it allows each Pro Tour to be an unexplored format so that it can generate and reward more creativity, and then allows the metagame for the qualifier season to be fleshed out.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2004, 04:25:12 pm » |
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It's because qualifiers do not use the same format for an event as the event does. That is really dumb IMO. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2004, 05:10:06 pm » |
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This is because it allows each Pro Tour to be an unexplored format so that it can generate and reward more creativity, and then allows the metagame for the qualifier season to be fleshed out. This makes complete sense. Look at the masters series: the event is boring when the pros know the meta. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2004, 08:15:36 pm » |
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What would happen is that the PTQ seasons would be all kinds of messed up since no one would really have any ideas what decks were that good and the PT would be really boring since the pros would know the environment already. In that kind of situation, all that anyone ends up playing is Sligh.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2004, 09:18:05 pm » |
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Just look at the States/Nationals problem with Standard. States tend to be all kinds of random due to all the good players saving their tech for Nationals. You simply can't have the feeders for a tournament the same as the big thing and expect it to maximize innovation.
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