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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2004, 06:11:30 am » |
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2004, 08:23:17 am » |
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2004, 08:29:34 am » |
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I've seen several folks mention Blastoderm, so I thought I'd throw in a card that I like even better:
Phantom Centaur
That dude is a house!
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2004, 09:17:40 am » |
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2004, 01:14:07 pm » |
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Guided Passage - Look it up. It's like a mana intensive super tutor.
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2004, 01:58:42 pm » |
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Im gonna echo the Replenish comment. Replenish is NASTY, I dont see why its not in something upper tier.
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2004, 02:01:25 pm » |
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I'd say that Rector, while definitely not undiscovered, has a really powerful budget application that isn't being explored.
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2004, 08:25:42 pm » |
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Eureka- Maybe this could somehow be used in B/G Void?
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« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2004, 09:09:57 pm » |
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2004, 11:41:39 pm » |
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Gigapede.
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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2004, 03:53:24 pm » |
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Better Ideas:
Cataclysm
Unearth
Glacial Chasm
Worse Ideas:
Goblin Legionnaire
Bind
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2004, 04:14:33 pm » |
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I think that Recycle has Bargain-like broken-ness that is under-utilized. The discard only comes if the game lasts till the cleanup phase : ) I could see it in Rector-based Storm decks. Though it is green, the cost is just the same as Bargain, so I don't see that as a huge issue. Bargain gets the nod over it because it gets you 19 cards NOW. However, I could see Recycle as being Bargain 2-5 possibly.
Maybe Recycle could find a place in Extended.
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« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2004, 05:14:00 pm » |
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Ive wanted to build a Raven deck for sooooooooo long...well since I packed two ravens at a pre-release draft.....  If anyone knows of a decklist resource for one could they PM it to me, must abuse blue creature. Ertai's Familliar....? Spellshock Reanimate...just dont do it to Dragon, ouch Energy Flux!!! Avatar of Will Cho-Manno's Blessing Taste of Paradise > Stream of Life in mono G, except that both suck anyway :lol: I second the need for Sylvan Library in T1 Peace  |
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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2004, 08:13:14 pm » |
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channel-is there any reason today for restriction?
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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2004, 06:40:43 am » |
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I thought of Channel too, and i am still wondering over pro's N con's.
First of all, 2cc casting cost and you have 19 mana. With Illusions of Grandeur, Trix could become very fast with either Bargains or Necropotences. So could storm decks.
Channel is a card that alone is worth very little, but played in multiples in the right deck it might be inzane.. Any cards that can use 19 grey mana to win?
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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2004, 07:52:09 pm » |
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@Toad, Ive run slice and dice in numerous occasions when our local store got infested with fish.
I think that there are soo many good enchantress cards that can be used. Everyone associates enchantress with the slowness, and pegasus tokens. But i feel the engine can be a lot faster.
Some odd enchantress cards to think about
Argothian
Exporation
Fastbond
City of Solitude
Ancestral Mask
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« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2004, 08:48:48 pm » |
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I was always under the belief that using Eureka along with Mucho enchantments and artifacts such as abyss, Underworld Dreams, Howling Mine, Teferi's Puzzle Box, Memory Jar(for draw 7 brokenness) ~ doing Jar's ability in response to throwing down Eureka(possible? if so, nuts once one hand is dropped and Eureka is the last thing to play) You can simply out permanent your opponent. Many things can come from this, i think It's something that TMD can work with and make a very very useful deck. Bringing U-Dreams back to type 1. - almost as a long for permanents.
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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2004, 10:03:07 pm » |
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eureka
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and a lot of other cards people keep mentioning
we'll just have to wait and see what $20 card will become format braking and jumps up $100 in a couple of months.
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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2004, 10:10:23 pm » |
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I bought a Time Vault just in case.
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« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2004, 03:37:39 pm » |
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Yawgmoth's Will!... oh, wait!
I think Doomsday and Candelabra of Tawnos have already been broken as it is.
I am thinking that Eater of Days can be interesting... with something, somewhat, somewhere, somehow...
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2004, 05:00:39 pm » |
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2004, 05:24:25 pm » |
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Domain (the mechanic)
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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2004, 05:32:16 pm » |
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Boo, I was going to break Cataclysm!
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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2004, 05:37:52 pm » |
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Matt, I think the power of White might be too much for TMD. It'll take every Magic player on earth to break the color...Cataclysm will only be the beginning.
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« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2004, 06:51:40 pm » |
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Matt, I think the power of White might be too much for TMD. It'll take every Magic player on earth to break the color...Cataclysm will only be the beginning. I've already done it! Go Tithe + Eternal Dragon + Charbelcher.parfait |
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« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2004, 08:01:47 pm » |
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Bargain comboed with Eureka seems not shitty. Draw a bunch of cards with Bargain cast Eureka and drop all of your permanents including Illusions of Granduer then draw 20 more. Some possible potential.
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« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2004, 08:06:41 pm » |
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Bargain comboed with Eureka seems not shitty. Draw a bunch of cards with Bargain cast Eureka and drop all of your permanents including Illusions of Granduer then draw 20 more. Some possible potential. This is practically the definition of a "win more" card; anything based on bargain being in play is based on you having already won the game. |
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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2004, 10:08:00 pm » |
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True, but Eureka can help beforehand too, by getting the Bargain into play much cheaper than usual.
Incidentally, how were you going about breaking Cataclysm? It seems to me that the way to do it would be to couple it with something Gush-like that let you control what you had on the board. Parallax Wave? Would you even try it in WW, or a whole new deck?
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« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2004, 10:17:05 am » |
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Doesn't it seem like Replenish should be restricted already? Maybe if Entomb was unrestricted...
[Addition]: Meh, most likely it still wouldn't be, but that's not the point. There's gotta be some interaction out there beyond Hermit Druid that makes this degenerate. If it wasn't a sorcery it might have potential in a control deck, but it is.
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[card]Replenish[/card] is a "neat" card, but I think its best use is based in combo. I don't think it's viable in T1 due to the fact that by the time you're ready to cast Replenish, your opponent may already be in a better win position.
That, plus I can't imagine exactly what great local enchantments would be good to play in the first place, let alone get them into your graveyard.
You might find it possible to play a large compliment of enchantments along with some effect to destroy all permanents, then cast a Replenish after the effect resolves (having floated the necessary mana beforehand). The only "destroy all permanents" effect I can think of at the moment is via [card]Worldslayer[/card]. Another possible effect would be via [card]Nevinyrrals Disk[/card], although less effective since you leave your opponent land to recover with.
Smennen: Regarding [card]Time Vault[/card] - [card]Lodestone Myr[/card]? I've been thinking of a deck to build using these cards, although my lone design skills are... well, less developed.
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