i like street wraith in it.  not sure if that would b "news".

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i know; i know.  i'm a fool for the turn 2 kill though.

yeah; what was i thinking?  lol.  i think i am going down to 3 though.

well, what would u guys do?  i have 6 spots available for thugs and ichorids.  3 and 3?  i'm running just a vanilla manaless build with fatestitchers, sages, zealots.

with fatestitcher now, does ichorid even need to b in the deck?

thanks.  yeah, i might go to rainbow lands.  fetchlands/duals/dryad arbor is cute game 1, but i can definitely see where u could screwed post board.

3 foothills
1 trop island
4 chain of vapor
4 emerald charm
3 contagion

look good?

and i guess siding out, some of the singletons r obvious, but how do u possibly side in 4 land, 4 chains, and 4 charms against leyline?

just thinking a little more about it.  i wanna run 4 chains, since it's so versatile.  i guess my big q's r wut to take out.

maindeck is the following:

4 chalice of the void
4 serum powder

4 Golgari Grave-troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
1 Ancestor's Chosen
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
1 angel of despair
1 river kelpie

4 bridge from below
4 leyline of the void

1 darkblast

4 cabal therapy
3 dread return
3 unmask

4 bazaar of baghdad
3 windswept heath
1 bayou
1 dryad arbor

i know i wanna have 3 wooded foothills and a tropical island in my side, but wut is recommended for the other 11 cards?  chain of vapor, emerald charm, reverent silience, oxidize, contagion seem pretty standard, but how much of what?  also, wut do u side out?  if u can give me some pointers about easy siding techniques, that would b awesome.  thanks.

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borrow a set of 'goyfs, son.

cool.  well, as long as i'm not swinging the sticks, i'll be there.

i'm just looking to buy some ex/nm beta power, so if anyone is gonna b there selling let me know; i'll come down.  thanks.

wow.  never realized split second only said activated abilities.  owned.

used to play somethin like this back in the day for fun.  i ran factories and blurred mongooses, too.

also, if u r really serious about your side, i think u need extirpates with the leylines.  i am pretty sure they work through chalice/nether void to boot.  the latter would trigger, but not go on the stack.  am i right?

when u really get down to it mud/stax is better than something like this, but sometimes u just wanna play the cards u wanna play with; i totally understand that.

gl.

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actually, it's a lot better than that.  if 1 of your first 7 cards is blue, the chances of 1 of the remaining 6 to b a blue source is like 74% (not counting street wraiths).  u said earlier u shouldnt use a street wraith or morphose to try and top deck a win con and u have 8 of those, so i dont think u should factor street wraiths into an argument about getting to a blue source.  in other words, i dont think u would keep a hand with a blue card, no blue source, and a street wraith (unless u have a lively belcher or big empty, of course).  take that 74% with the 25% chance of actually getting 1 of those 2 blue cards in your first 7, and u have an unplayable blue card about 6 in every 100 games.  not bad at all; i stand corrected.

i was curious why u didnt put your budget black deck on there.  i really like that deck.

don't u just wanna kill yourself when u have a dead blue card in your hand?

u're the man, btw.

with 6 slots left, do i run 4 wraiths and 2 manamorphose, 3 and 3, or 2 and 4?  2-color, btw.

i see gamble got removed, too...

nice thread.  i swear i didn't see that when i searched.

tell me if i'm wrong, but manamorphose and street wraiths seem to complicate parising for me.  i think i'd almost rather see the 7 cards i have instead of 6 + a street wraith.

if i wasn't powerless (puts flamesuit on), i would definitely think about removing the land grant/taiga suite.

unfortunately, the closest thing i have to a metagame is looking on deckcheck.

browsing through the evolution of belcher a bit, looks like manamorphose has definitely replaced the chromatic artifacts, right?  what about serum powder?  i see that popping up a bit.

good info; thanks, again.

side q: does 2-color (rg) belcher run manamorphose?

forgot about that deck.  yeah, 4 md blasts, plus 3 reb's in the side.

i'm torn between the almost colorless casting cost of response and the storm creation ability/versaility of pyroblast.  response is obviously better the more chrome moxes u play, right?  last night, i could have killed for a pyroblast staring down at a meddling mage, however.  what is your guys' opinions?  thanks.