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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: May 05, 2010, 12:57:14 pm
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3 Dark Confidant 2 Sensei's Divining Top 1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor*
4 Force of Will 4 Mana Drain 3 Duress 2 Thoughtseize 1 Rebuild 1 Repeal* 1 Mystic Remora*
1 Demonic Tutor 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Brainstorm 1 Gifts Ungiven 1 Merchant Scroll 1 Thirst for Knowledge 1 Time Walk 1 Ponder* 1 Tinker
1 Tezzeret the Seeker 1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind 1 Time Vault 1 Voltaic Key
8 Solomoxcrypt 4 Misty Rainforest 1 Scalding Tarn 1 Flooded Strand 1 Snow-Covered Island 2 Island 3 Underground Sea 2 Tropical Island 1 Tolarian Academy
Sideboard (15): 4 Yixlid Jailer 3 Nature's Claim 3 Seal of Primordium 1 Krosan Grip 1 Perish 1 Mystic Remora 1 Pithing Needle 1 Forest
This is the list, but I'll add the caveat again that the new stuff (mostly the transition to green) is fairly untested compared with the core (9 months+). As it stands, I'm guessing it's weak to Fish, but that's always something I've been comfortable with. It hammers the mirror, oath and ritual combo and can manage against workshops and dredge. I'm still considering * cards in the MD, changes to which could heavily influence the SB.
I look at this list and some choices seems very strange. Your deck has to following differences: + 3 Duress + 2 Thoughtseize + 1 Rebuild + 1 mystic remora + 1 ponder - 2 Repeal - 3 Spell Pierce - 1 hurkyl's recall - 1 timetwister - 1 mystical tutor Why you choose for an non interactive disruption package ( Duress and Thoughtseize) over a interactive package like 4 Force of Will, 3 Mana Drain, 3 Spell Pierce, 3 Repeal. Against decks with Sensei's Divining Top these disruption cards are very useless and do nothing. Cards like pierce repeal are better against topdecks or things you don't like on the board. About mystic remora You run 4 pitch counters in your decklist (4 fow). With remora in play you have to choose to pay for remora or sac remora. If you pay every turn for remora you lose control because you have less mana and gives an opponent the change to do something useful. The static change you draw a pitch counter while you're tapped (out) for remora is very low. So What's the reason why you choose for this card with only 4 pitch counters.
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: May 02, 2010, 06:11:45 am
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@ Ancestral Recall: 3cc over 2cc can improve your game against the metagame on a strategic level.
K how can you fix your mana base? For a 3CC tezz list? Cut an underground sea for a tropical island? And what about decks with wastelands, like shop and some fish builds?
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: April 30, 2010, 02:53:54 pm
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Why 3CC over 2CC? It destabilizes your mana base as control deck. Against oath you have multiple game plans. One of them is you can repeal his oath after resolving, in this case repeal is a time walk. You can buy a few extra turns and gain for example card advantage with BoB and counter his oath when your opponent tries to resolve it. Another one is you can stop oath from resolving. Third you can let resolve oath with a counter war and after resolving you goes infinite with key and time vault. I think 3cc tezz is not necessary now.
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: April 29, 2010, 04:03:24 pm
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When you are winning you don't play twister. I've never been disappointed because I drew Time Twister, there are situations when twister is just totally awesome in getting you back or re balancing hands after somebody got a small spurt of card advantage. Not to mention it plays well with the Tendrils in the SB. In other cases it just pitches (also not to be overlooked) I think this explains why it needs to be excluded Imho. If a card is only good when you are behind, it needs to be reevaluted, because there is probely a card that can serve that spot better and that is not only good when you are behind (Regrowth, seccond Jace or even Ponder). I played with twister last TNV and never ever casted it in the 10 games I played, although I had it in hand for at least 4 games, the only use it had was pitching to Fow (and that is not why I play a blue card). Consider that twister is still an out for game 1 against ichorid. I see this deck a lot in Europe and I think this is also very important.
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: April 29, 2010, 08:27:15 am
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Petal It's also antithetical to a deck trying to be a series of time walks (ending of course with infinite time walks). Timetwister...underrated in general It's true that blue decks are increasingly explosive. The card also has special synergies with remora. Still, it's never been close to my 60th slot. There are too many other things that I feel would add flexibility or consistency: repeal, fire/ice, thoughtseize, sensei's top #2, maybe even FoF (which I loathe) all come before twister. Timetwister adds power and the opportunity to 'come back', but the cost of drawing it may have put you behind in the first place or it may just as easily allow your opponent back in or to just win. The card is much too random, and relatively unbroken at 3 mana, for my tastes. I disagree with it. I think more tops is not necessary because you have also enough draw potential. Cards like BoB, repeal, tfk, brainstorm ect. With twister you can comeback into the game and also good with cards like remora ect. When you are winning you don't play twister. It's a back up card in your deck.
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Eternal Formats / Blue-Based Control / Re: [Deck]RND-Tezzeret
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on: April 29, 2010, 06:34:04 am
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@Cruel Ultimatum, Good job, glad you liked the deck! Those findings are right in line with what I expected to happen  I've always disliked Petal in Control lists I agree with that, it destabilizes your mana base. Petal isn't a permanent mana source and I think control doesn't like this kind of mana sources.
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Eternal Formats / Global Vintage Tournament Reports and Results / Re: [RESULTS]The Manacrypt Weekly Vintage !
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on: April 28, 2010, 02:43:56 am
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Results 27th of April 2010
We had 8 players tonight competing for a Marsh Flats and some boosters
Here are the results:
1 Marius van Zundert with RND Tezz 12 ptn 2 Arjan bos with RND Tezz 9 ptn 3 Bart Marijnissen with Tezz 9 ptn 4 Sybrand Everts with Bomberman 7 ptn 5 Paul de Rijk with The deck 4 ptn 6 Sander Goosens with ichorid 3 ptn 7 Martin Nuijten with Tezz 3 ptn
So the March Flats goes this week to marius, Congratulations!!! And see you next time.
Pictures will be posted tonight when I mail the to pictures to marius (marske).
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