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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: you did that ....................really?
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on: November 06, 2008, 05:59:35 pm
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Player: Umm I cast seal of cleansing. Me: Force pitching stifle. (no targets for seal, and blue mana up for stifle) Do you know why I did that? Cause I sure as hell don't.
Vintage Champs 07. I think I was 5-0 at the time. Playing Brain Demars. playing flash had one of the creatures in hand. Played flash went to get Body snatcher didn't pitch my guy and ended up returning Hulk and trying to beat for the win. I lost. Brain: " I thought you had me there." Me: "Yeah I'm bombed."
Those two stick out pretty strong, but give me a week I'm sure I can come up with and make more.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Of Mana Drain and its place in Vintage
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on: September 22, 2008, 11:58:57 pm
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While in some matches Duress and thoughtseize are MVPs, in a meta filled with Stax or Ichorid they tend to just suck. Even if the meta isn't "full" weakening those match ups significantly with dead cards may be a bad call as they already give you less then amazing match ups. So the issue is how bad do you want to make your Ichorid and or Stax match up by bumping up your ability to hose control or combo game plans. Usually after some testing you end up finding a balance. Much like most decks are running right now. But hey, test it and prove me wrong. In the meantime I'd be very skeptical of the all out B hand ripping game plan.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: [Deck] SlighClamp
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on: September 05, 2008, 07:51:13 pm
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First off this isn't a terrible idea. Getting some draw into sligh. However I have to think wheel is terrible. You play it 3rd turn at best and tap out to do it. You don't get to use any of the juice you just drew. While on the other side of the table you are fueling up their hand, and they do play bombs. Any kind of long deck will love it. Most control decks will think it swell of you too. It just helps your opponent more then you. Also where are some of your fast aggressive dudes like jackal pup or tattermunge. Something that beats but once your opponent plays a blocker you would be much happier clamping and turning into burn spells.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Break this metagame!
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on: January 12, 2008, 10:03:49 pm
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I personally feel that Oath has pretty good game vrs both of your front runners. You have the options necessary to beat both of those deck and can play with a great deal of flexibility. Now question remains what build of Oath do you feel is strongest right now? I've been leaning towards Tyrant oath. But to each their own.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Rules Q&A / Karmic Guide Tokens and Engineered Explosives.
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on: September 26, 2007, 11:18:59 pm
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I was under the impression that the copies you make of karmic guide using kiki jiki were considered to have a converted mana cost of 0. I was ruled against recently at a small level tourney because some one claimed a judge had ruled that kiki jiki copies the card including the converted mana cost... So when I blew an explosives for zero in response to his declare attackers it did nothing but nuke my one mox. What's the correct ruling here? I'd love to get it from a judge. Thanks
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: [Article] Interview w/Nick Calcaterra-Vintage World Championships *4th*
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on: August 23, 2007, 02:29:52 pm
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In Nicks interview/report he mentions a team supreme player scooping to him in game two for no reason. That player was me. I mulled down to 3 cards looking for any combination of these cards. A leyline, a land, or one of the cards hulk/flash. I kept on island, ancestral, brainstorm. turn one I ancestral into 3 reverent silence. turn 2 I brainstorm into 2 leylines and a tropical island. So it would have taken me till turn 6 to see a hulk and a flash if my draws were perfect. I'm pretty sure he can win before then. Why prolong the agony?
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Vintage Community Discussion / General Community Discussion / Re: What deck would you be most comfortable playing at a large 10 proxy event.
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on: February 12, 2007, 06:06:55 pm
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I think the question is being interpreted in two separate ways. The first half of people are reading it as what would they feel they could play most comfortably. What deck do they feel they pilot well? The other group is taking this from a what deck would most comfortably have a chance to win that event.
I think that is why you are getting such high yet unfounded numbers for decks like long and oath. I chose as my deck rod fish because I have been playing it at small local tourneys for a while now and feel very comfortable making decisions with it. However if I had taken the question the second way I would say gifts because the deck can comfortably play out a win in most situations.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Dealing with Fish
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on: October 22, 2006, 08:43:48 pm
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In all honesty the only fish that gives oath problems is U/W because they are pre boarded against you with swords and seals main. In the other matches all you should be worrying about is resolving an oath and then protecting it. You don't need to look for a orchard early because their only route to victory is little men.
So I think it may be more important to ask what build of oath were you running, or how where you playing it wrong.
If I was heading into a fish full meta I would take oath as my first choice. The only exception is if it's all OFM style fish. That's just a beating.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: Gifts'erman
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on: October 02, 2006, 10:18:28 pm
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Hi there I was the 3rd round oath player.
I saw what you were doing and know how bomber man works but I saw some cards in your list that weren't in the original list and wasn't sure if you were innovating or just making a good deck list worse. So I wanted to see what you did with all that mana and such.
I also though earlier in the match you made some sub optimal gift piles but now that I know you were setting up lethal tendrils they make more sense. Before that I was hoping you would make a mistake. So that’s why I didn’t scoop to trinket make for spellbomb.
I had at the end of the game Vamp and Mystical in hand so I figured if you made a mistake I could maybe get Akroma and 2 time walks out of it. Which would have been enough since you had fetched a bunch and taken 6 from Razia.
Just my 2 cents. Congrats on the new idea.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: What is the best competative non fully-powered stable deck ever?
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on: August 28, 2006, 10:40:39 am
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With most tournaments being proxy. I would think you could sell your highest value power cards. Depending on if you play in small 5 proxy events or large 10 proxy star city stuff. Either way sell your lotus, ancestral... and get good quality proxies. That way you don't have to give up playing a top tier deck either. I really don't see any advantages in playing a budget deck.
You have asked a very difficult question as it is very hard to quantify the budget decks and tell you which is the best. They have different strengths and weaknesses against all the top decks. They also have some strengths and weaknesses to some of the other budget decks you'll be facing.
I have always considered playing a budget deck as a strictly metagame call. If you can predict the field and it gets owned buy FC Goblins I'd say feel free in playing it. If on the other hand FC Goblins has terrible match ups against a known field it would be a mistake to play it.
Then you have to factor in how well you know your deck and how much you enjoy playing it. I think in the end you should play something you feel very comfortable with.
And finally to answer your question In my opinion the best budget deck is OFM (u/w fish) it has most of the tools you need to do well and the side board can be very dynamic.
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Vintage Community Discussion / Casual Forum / Re: [Waterbury] Side Event: September '94
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on: September 28, 2005, 11:32:51 am
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Yeah it's true your deck looks like something out of... oh I don't know. Let's say 1994.
But seriously after using my secret tech (Reading) I'm not sure if your deck is the best available. They say in the post that you will be using the B&R list from back then. Have you looked into that? I personally have no idea where to even look to find the B&R from sept 94. Was there a degenerate combo back then?
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Deck for Waterbury
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on: September 08, 2005, 12:10:58 pm
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I’ve been playing a deck similar for a while now and I’ve found 2 main deck Shrapnel Blast to be very effective. Also since you play fetch lands already have you considered Brainstorm. I have found it to be very effective when I need to dig for a threat. I don’t play Su-Chi at all because I find the 4-8 manna I end up with in the middle of an attack phase bothersome. Since most people bring in Rack and Ruin or have it main.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Re: vintage White Weenie
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on: July 20, 2005, 12:39:24 pm
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I’m not sure how your tournaments are run but aren’t you allowed some proxies? I think you should add some Moxen, a Lotus and a sol Ring. You can afford to take out a few basic Plains to make the room. Also for your sideboard I highly recommend Rule of Law.   and all combo decks need to find an answer before they can go off. Good luck with the deck. I know I wouldn’t play white weenie but it’s your right to build and play whatever you want. The openness of the game was what got me into magic in the first place.
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Re: Out of the Ashes: Hulk Smash 05
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on: June 21, 2005, 11:41:36 am
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As much as I would like to see the return of Hulk Smash, I do not think this is the time for it. Â Look back at why Hulk had to be taken off the tier 1 list. Â Fish started being played everywhere and it is a bad match up for Hulk. Â It is safe to say that more people are playing fish today then they were a year ago. Â We now see G/U and W/U more often then the R/U that messed up our game plan. Â It doesn't change the fact that they play the most disruptive balance of mana denial, counters and little beats. Â If you want to bring hulk back it would be best if you could smash Fish consistently and convince the fish players to switch decks.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / What to play?
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on: December 23, 2004, 12:58:16 pm
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I know I'm going to kick myself for saying this but have you thought about playing Mono Red? The reason I ask is because in a good strong Meta game no one really comes prepared for it. I was at a tourney in Toronto last Sunday where 2 kids playing it made it to the top 8. It was awful! I was playing Hulk Smash to a 3-1-0 record I just needed to beat 1 more person to top 8. I ended up playing mono red kid. Dou you have any idea how bad it feels to loose to random red? It helped that he had 4 Red elemental blast and at least 2 pyroblast MAIN. It's hard to keep a tog on the table, or say NO to burn when he has a mitt full of 1 casting cost counter spells. Any ways that’s my 2 cents. Keep them guessing. Or you could just play B/U/G Hulk Smash. Just make sure you have a few extra Deeds in your SB.
Yep kicking myself already~
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Eternal Formats / Miscellaneous / Oath
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on: October 25, 2004, 02:15:34 pm
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I played a 3-colour version of oath at a tourney this past weekend and my only match loss in the Swiss rounds came from Dragon and some good fast-talking by my opponent and the tourney organizer. It was trash he make "infinity mana" and mills me until the only card left in my Library is the Gaea's Blessing then pass the turn let me draw it and since I had no green mana source pass the turn again to let me lose. It sounds cute in theory but that little rule 421 about choosing a number for an infinite loop and the fact that he should have burned for infinity - what he spent milling me. I just wish I had thought of that before I was sitting in my car driving home after the tourney. On to the point. The best thing about this deck is that you have access to every colour. I play with 4 Duress rather then the Mana Leak. I liked knowing what deck I was facing turn one so I could plan out my turns knowing what the threats would be. I also like having access to Cunning Wish targets. I have room in my sideboard for a swords. 1 Echoing Truth saved me from a spirit token beat down against Tog in round 2. The Problems I Saw... I felt Intuition was a little slow for me at 3 mana I'm going to do some testing with Lim Dul's Vault in its place. I use DSC and I figure it's only a mater of time before Sigil of Sleep ruins my plans. In Round 3 I played against Death Long. I had 4 Chalice in SB, which I brought in and stalled with at 0 for long enough for me to win. I have tested this against Long running its own Forbidden Orchard and its pretty bad for me since my oath usually never goes my way. I play with 2 Crucible because I didn't want to be caught without Forbidden Orchard in play. I only found room in the mana base for a strip mine. I can foresee as this deck becomes more popular wanting desperately for Wastelands when you face a mirror match or the combo decks. Nothing ruins your oath plans more then having a **** load of 1/1's sitting around.
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Eternal Formats / Creative / Local Type 1 tourney, What should we play.
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on: July 09, 2004, 11:23:23 am
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Ok so from my tittle you understand the basic question. I still want to define the situation a little better.
You will see 20 odd people. At least 5 of them will be randon kids with elf decks or stuff that "wins" at home. 10 will be people who read this web site religiously and who know all the tech for all the match ups. 5 of them have some power, the other 5 can barely afford the entry fee. 2 will have massive head scars and say things like "White beats Blue, Blue beats Red, Red beats Green... So my Blue White beats everything" or "I play only 3 Bonesplitters so I can fit one War Hammer". The last 3 will think that they are the next best thing to our Lord and try to break magic with a deck that came to them in the night. (I have been know to be this weirdo from time to time)
That is the field a third of them run near %50 power. I feel good because I run %70 power. I have tried the best tuned control decks but find that the random people sneak by me. I've tried combo but find ALOT of dragon hate in everyones side board. I've been playing Hulk as of late and find that some of the random people give me a hard time.
So there it is, what would you play to get through the local tourney scene?
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