I feel I must chime in here. It's been a while since I played the deck and I too won several pieces of power with it and played it since it's beginnings on the drawing board.

The awesome thing about Bomberman is that is is incredibly polyvalent and that you can change your game plan very quickly, be it control, combo or even aggro at times.

Trinket Mage IS the most useful card in the deck, if you don't run 4 of those, you are doing something wrong. It slows down aggro, with a 2/2 body and explosives, it hurts combo and Dredge with Crypt and it just finds combo pieces.

I've never been a real fan of running black, you get a tutor and Will (which is far from broken in this deck, but still good) but you weaken your mana-base, which is a strong point of this deck.

I think your list is all right Anusien, but I feel you have too many bounce spells. Repeals are all right, but do you really need an Echoing Truth with that? I know it's always fun to have a safety net, but this deck as enough answers as it is. I never ran it and never wished I did.

I agree with the TV combo, too strong not to include.

Last time I played the deck, I added Ethersworn Canonist and was very impressed. You can just play him and play the control game against all control and combo decks since you can most likely just counter any bounce they have. He is also good against aggro and he doesn't stop any of your combos. He replaces Aven Mindcensor in my latest versions.


Kalisia, the decks you proposed are pretty much combo decks, they don't have anything to do with Bomberman and will suffer the same problems as combo decks and play entirely different. They should not be discussed here.


Here is what I would change to the list posted by Anusien.

- 1 Demonic
- 1 Y. Will
- 1 Echoing Truth
- 1 Gifts Ungiven (not as good without Will)
- 2 U. Sea

+ 3 Ethersworn Canonist
+ 1 Spell Pierce/Negate/Mana Leak/Spell Snare
+ 1 Polluted Delta
+ 1 Mana Crypt

Why isn't Mana Crypt on your list??? I agree it can make you lose games, but when you run Tinker, this risk is highly lowered and it allows broken 1st turn Trinket or Salvager.


About the sideboard, what do you think should be in there? As I said, I did not play it since Thirst was restricted, so I may be a bit rusty.

My Stax list has a converted mana cost of 1.13333333. This allows Dark Confidant to be in play for 17.64 consecutive turns. I have a very hard time understanding the damage argument when people run Dark Confidant with Force or Will and Inkwell Leviathan. Look at Stephen Q. Menedian's Confidant Control list. He has a full compliment of Dark Confidants and his deck tops out at a converted mana cost of 1.5333333333. That's higher than you average Stax list! Where is the whoop la about his high mana costs?

From my point of view the problem of playing Confidants is not the damage argument rather the question whether to play chalice of the void or not. If you play Confidants, there is no save Chalice value anymore (except 0, but for this you play null rod). Chalice 1 knocks out your Welders and tutors, Chalice for 2 hits tutors again, Null Rod AND Confis.
So my conclusion is: if you are going to play Confis, than play no chalice or only in sideboard.

I need a ruling on.

This is the "Gamestate"

my buddy started to build mini sandwiches from his lunchable.

so my question is.

Are assembled Lunchables punchable?

Me and my opponent are both sitting at 4 life or less.  I attack with flesh reaver, the damage resolves.  Tie or Win?

Also, if a 2/2 blocks flesh reaver, do I receive 4 damage or 2 damage?  Basically, can a creature take more damage than its toughness? 

Thanks.

From Stinkweed Imp's Oracle text:
Dredge 5 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly five cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)

From Rules:
502.47a Dredge is a static ability that functions only while the card with dredge is in a player's graveyard. "Dredge N" means "As long as you have at least N cards in your library, if you would draw a card, you may instead put N cards from the top of your library into your graveyard and return this card from your graveyard to your hand."


The difference is the: "Otherwise, draw a card" part and that difference is significant when using Darksteel Colossus or Progenitus.

Does "Dredge 5" win and then text in parenthesis is ignored or does the text in parentheses override Dredge 5?

What about Merieke Ri Berit?

Oracle:
Merieke Ri Berit doesn't untap during your untap step.
 : Gain control of target creature as long as you control Merieke Ri Berit. When Merieke Ri Berit leaves play or becomes untapped, destroy that creature. It can't be regenerated.

In a multiplayer game if a third party steals Merieke from me (and I had taken someone else's creature) do I have to give the creature I took back? If they steal Merieke and then sacrifice her, does the stolen creature get destroyed?

I've been playing Full English Breakfast for about a year now and this is the most awkward situation I have been in yet. This is what my board looks like:

- 1 goblin welder
- 1 sharpshooter
- 1 volrath's shapeshifter
- 1 mox saphire

In my graveyard I have a bunch of cards. Among those cards is a phyrexian dreadnought. The top card of my library is also a phyrexian dreadnought, making my shapeshifter a dreadnought as well.
My opponent has an inkwell levithan in play, so I need to have 2 dreadnoughts in play. I have 1 more dreadnought in my hand.

My question for you: Can I play the dreadnought from my hand and in response use my goblin welder to switch my mox saphire with the dreadnought in my graveyard (not the top one!).

Here's what I think:
When my hand-played dreadnought comes into play the 'sacrifice'-ability will trigger. In response to this trigger I tap my welder to get another dreadnought into play. His sacrifice-ability will also go to the stack. I sacrifice one of my dreadnoughts and so at least one of them lives ...

Greetings

Elmar Fud

That's probably the best description I've heard.

I'm not saying Meditate is bad, but the synergy is not good enough. Deckbuilders need to move away from "cute tricks" and more towards a deck that is intertwined and interwoven to work like a carefully oiled machine. That's what separates the truly great deckbuilders from the mediocre. In a great deck there is never a bad topdeck and this is not by mistake. The combinations of cards are ALL synergistic and there is rarely a missing piece to the combo because everything kind of combos with everything.

And a rules question.  What happens when you re-bounce Tangle Wire in response to it's upkeep trigger on your own upkeep?  The effect goes onto the stack, but does it keep a memory of how many Fading counters were on it before it was bounced or does it attempt to check how many Fading counters were on the old Tangle Wire and see that there is no "old" Tangle Wire but a different "new" Tangle Wire and subsequently force you to exhaust 0 permanents?

If that is the primary reason it is there, are there not infinitely better options for stopping tinker? 

What benefit does this card give the deck that warrants a devotion of 2-3 slots?

I realize circular logic is pretty piss poor, but maybe its just because he "fits"? He's a creature, which fits in with the beats plan (as you win many of your games going aggro). He's a disruptive element against all but a few decks (MUD is the only that comes to mind). He eats drain mana nicely (though losing the surprise element), and fits nicely in the 3 slot along with Trinket and TFK.

I guess its kind've like auto-playing certain restricted cards in all decks that run the colors (power, black tutors, etc). Definitely not on the same power level, but maybe just because its good in general and fits the colors.

Though maybe what you're doing is right. Maybe his slot in the deck needs to be questioned - maybe people are just playing him because hes fine and thats that. I don't have enough experience to give an adequate answer. Stating it as a Tinker solution sounds far too narrow...

Can someone please explain to me why Aven Mindcensor is an asset to this archetype? It seems out of place and inconsistent with the primary game plan.

Thoughts on Tormod's Crypt vs Relic?

Also, hows the split between Snares and Negates? I'd almost be tempted to go all Snares, though I live in the Drain infested NE area.

In regards to Shop and Ritual for example, you are correct in asking those questions.  There is simply no logical comparative reason for Ritual and Shop to remain unrestrictd while other equally effcient mana producers are on the list.  But, my guess is that they remain unrestricted simply for nostalgic reasons.  Drain, Ritual and Shop are major Vintage format definers.  That's not to say that they will never get targeted.  But, for now they seem to remain as the Holy Trinity that escape restriction time and time again.

I've been playing around with a Ubw list recently and more importantly, I've been playing around with sigil of distinction in the main, and it has been good for me. Anyone else tinkered around with sigil? How is it in general for other people? I usually drop it with x=5-9 and drop it on a trinket mage or a confidant. It's also kinda fun to use if you have salvagers and lotus but no spellbomb.

I prefer the black splash not only for duress, but also for tutors and yawgmoth's will. That, and I personally like dark confidant as a draw engine.